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On March 12 2010 23:52 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote:On March 12 2010 11:44 JeeJee wrote:On March 12 2010 11:29 johnnyspazz wrote:Someone said that I'm running on the basis that I'm blue: I'm not. Greens shouldn't be running for office unless they plan on losing. i i'm a little confused here it's true he's running on the basis that he has a role that makes him want mayor and is not green he's just basically leaving open the possibility to go "lulz im a not-aligned busdriver"  Did you read what I wrote about being green? I would suggest that you check the part involving someone killing themselves with the addendum that says "the only player in this game who's ballsy enough to do that is L". Am I L? Oh, looks like I am. Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan. 2+2. except you're not you have explcitly stated you're running for mayor, not pardoner you've also explicitly stated anyone running for mayor as a green is doing dumb shit and wants to lose. ergo, unless you're doing dumb shit and want town to lose, you're not green
Well, I kinda want to kill bill murray and I know I'm legit, so yeah the extra votes would be stellar to keep out of mafia hands. If my co-office mate person is indeed mafia, I'd actually rather he get pardoner over mayor because 1) I don't want him getting a free kp to shoot at one of the many people who are feigning blue and 2) Because a pardon this game is the equivalent to slightly less than a raw +2kp given the re-usage of blue roles during the night. Given the fact that the mayor is +1 kp from his day 1 lynch, you'd have to argue that the mayor's 3 vote wagon wouldn't be decisive in a single lynch for the rest of the game in order to posit that the pardoner is a stronger role here.
Ergo if I'm going to blow myself, given the assumption that someone who's mafia might get office with me, I'd rather that he gets the weaker role.
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L, why haven't you voted?
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On March 12 2010 17:13 sidesprang wrote:
And ofc i would have a DT in the office if that could be 100% guarranteed.
don't you think that BC is currently our best bet as a DT mayor?
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On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted?
I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore.
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On March 12 2010 23:30 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:36 Incognito wrote:The non-posters for L league? On March 12 2010 16:26 sidesprang wrote:
I vote for L The non-posters for Incog league? I mean, did you even look at who's voting for you?
Yeah that too. I wasn't saying that your vote train makes you red, I just thought it out and figured that most reds would prefer you in office over me. The only thing I don't get is why they'd want BC over me...protected DT would be hella hard to kill...unless BC is actually the GF. Interesting no?
CynanMachae looks red to me. Care to make any comments on the current situation?
Other than that, Abenson isn't being his usual self, and Versatile's been a bit quiet. I'll wait till you guys decide to respond before going on.
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On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore.
4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game.
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On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate.
I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la...
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On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore.
Hmmmm. Because of rules that were copied/pasted?
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On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted? I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore. Also Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate. I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la...
I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler.
And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me.
But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up?
It doesn't.
I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in.
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Sorry guys, for the inactive after going through the whole thread yesterday. Had a mid term, I'm on spring break starting Monday, so I can be extremely active then. (Probably will be.) Girlfriend just broke up with me too, and now I gotta go work 12 to 8. Yea...
Life is a beach.
So don't kill BM L. Don't DO IT!
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I really appreciate how you try to paint me red, especially given that if you go to the damn archives i'm probably the most innocent person in this game. Noone in this game really thinks I'm red, and I really don't expect the mafia to want to kill me. They have bigger fish to fry. Actually, I take that back. The mafia will probably try to kill me, because you are their godfather, and want to sway their poor, clay-like minds into doing what you want them to do, even if it means risking you winning the game to pay off some personal vendetta from a previous game that should not and needn't be brought into this current game.
Not helping the town? I am giving the town a guaranteed helpful, pro-town player in office. If I was red, would I be allowed to run from my mafia? Hell no. They wouldn't touch a Bill Murray campaign with a ten foot pole. Do I expect to win? No. My sole purpose of running is not to get into office, it is to prove I'm innocent.
While people may not like me, and they may not agree with everything I agree with, I believe they can find it in their hearts to largely pardon my past discretions, and that will be easier in part because they realize that I am honestly trying my hardest to help the town this game.
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On March 13 2010 01:32 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted? I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. Also On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate. I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la... I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler. And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me. But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up? It doesn't. I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in.
Uh I didn't say mafia would rather have me in office than you. I said I think they'd prefer to have you in office. The reason is because, as you have already noticed, people are trying to discredit and doubt you. I'd think its much easier to discredit you than me, and thus the mafia might think that they can deal with you better in office than me. I'm not saying mafia will be scared of me, but that it will just be more difficult to get rid of me than you.
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Also L the only reason why you're more active is that you're responding to people's misinterpretations. And you can't claim that you have a game-breaking strategy yet when its not public. Stop thinking you're so pro-town.
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I'd rather have Incognito in office because I think he is a better player, neither of you appear more or less Mafia, like to me, possibly L but thats probably due to the way he posts.
Overall I would rather vote someone in the role who has never had it before simply because I think it sucks if the same veterans get the same elected roles game in game out, how is anyone meant to improve at the game then? but as thats not relevant this game I would rather have Incog in office.
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Heads up to whomever it may concern; I'll be heading to Georgia by car tonight, which is a 24/25 hour trip, and so I'll do my best to keep tabs on this game, whenever I can find the internet, but after that, I'll be around again.
As for the election we've got going here, this is really really close, which bothers me, because it seems all the easier for the mafia to calibrate the results as they see fit. If you're town, and are contemplating changing your vote, it might be clever to do so as late as possible, so that at the very least, the election results won't be particularly easy to adjust.
It would be really really excellent if all the election candidates were town-aligned, but we should by no means assume that's the case. The priority is still rolechecking the election winners, because a mafia pardoner is a threat, and a mafia mayor is an even bigger threat. This game will be won or lost on DT play.
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Also L if you get voted in don't lynch Bill it would be a waste, going over the thread I would lynch Abenson
On March 12 2010 07:17 Abenson wrote:
Declaration:
I think it's really hard for me to post anything BUT 1-liners unless I have something important or I am trying to argue a point or protecting myself. Therefore from now on I will simply post 1-liners in order to state my mood/thoughts on the current matter
P.S. I'm kinda lazy to update my post in the archives
Town or Mafia this is just plain unhelpful, also I'd like to restate something I wrote way long ago that no-one really responded to. We need to put in place and agreed rule whereby people who are exceptionally inacitve or do not contribute are lynched. Forces the Mafia to post and forces town to try to participate, win win. thoughts?
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Day 1 lynch targets. Looks like the race is between BC and L. Who are you guys going to lynch?
I have a feeling Malongo/Foolishness/Versatile are good targets. All been quiet, all good enough to be mafia since I think the three candidates are town. They just haven't done enough for me to see them as town-sided. What does everyone else think?
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@incognito
It seems to me like the mafia will kill malongo/foolishness fairly quickly if they are town, because of their senority. I think it would be better to lynch someone out of the mafia's way, who is suspicious or likely will become suspicious. IE someone with useless/small amounts of posts that doesn't have a chance of being modkilled.
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On March 13 2010 04:02 Iaaan wrote:
@incognito
It seems to me like the mafia will kill malongo/foolishness fairly quickly if they are town, because of their senority. I think it would be better to lynch someone out of the mafia's way, who is suspicious or likely will become suspicious. IE someone with useless/small amounts of posts that doesn't have a chance of being modkilled.
Hmm really? What if they're mafia? Then they won't die. What if they're suspicious (which they are)? They probably won't die. Mafia doesn't really have to worry about them right now. They're not doing much. Mafia have bigger problems. Like invincible blues. Or just blues in general.
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Well okay your right, they wont die immediately if they are town, you/L/bc will (if your town). I still favour versatile over the other two, if malongo/foolishness are town, they will be hopefully more useful, and killed by the mafia before versatile will.
I think I kinda sounds unclear about my thoughts, in my head there are kind of two lists which ignore roles completely, people the mafia want to kill, and people they don't care about until they have won. Since at this point in the game, no suspicions can really be solid, I think the town should kill someone who is potentially mafia, but that if they are town will not be killed by the mafia until the end of the game.
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my thought as a mafia would be (assuming malongo/foolishness are town): yay the town wants to kill their veterans! we don't have to waste our own KP!
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