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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 12 2010 19:54 GMT
#461
You guys are still on day 1?!
Life?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 21:04:58
March 12 2010 21:04 GMT
#462
48 hours for the election.

Non-voters, GO VOTE.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 12 2010 21:37 GMT
#463
I think regardless of who gets elected the most important thing the DT(s) should NOT do is ROLE-CLAIM to the mayor/pardoner. The chances of one of them being GF is so high that it's just not worth it yet.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 12 2010 21:45 GMT
#464
On March 13 2010 06:37 nemY wrote:
I think regardless of who gets elected the most important thing the DT(s) should NOT do is ROLE-CLAIM to the mayor/pardoner. The chances of one of them being GF is so high that it's just not worth it yet.


Unless the DT is telling other people about it too, you'd think a DT for GF trade is good, no?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 12 2010 21:48 GMT
#465
We already know who the DT is....
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 12 2010 22:58 GMT
#466
On March 13 2010 01:49 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 01:32 L wrote:
On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:
On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:
On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted?

I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore.


4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game.


Also

On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate.


I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la...

I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler.

And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me.

But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up?

It doesn't.

I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in.


Uh I didn't say mafia would rather have me in office than you. I said I think they'd prefer to have you in office. The reason is because, as you have already noticed, people are trying to discredit and doubt you. I'd think its much easier to discredit you than me, and thus the mafia might think that they can deal with you better in office than me. I'm not saying mafia will be scared of me, but that it will just be more difficult to get rid of me than you.

It was a rhetorical question. Ie, mafia would much rather have you in office sitting around nothing nothing as a green.

Your statement here essentially implies that you aren't going actually step up and lead and be held accountable for the results. Somehow I don't see how that's a quality you should have.

We already know who the DT is....
You know who's claimed to be the DT. You know he didn't want you to know, and you have no evidence supporting anything beyond that. Once we have a rolecheck or two to confirm his identity, we'll know things for certain.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 12 2010 23:40 GMT
#467
On March 13 2010 06:45 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 06:37 nemY wrote:
I think regardless of who gets elected the most important thing the DT(s) should NOT do is ROLE-CLAIM to the mayor/pardoner. The chances of one of them being GF is so high that it's just not worth it yet.


Unless the DT is telling other people about it too, you'd think a DT for GF trade is good, no?

No. I would not trade the detective for the GF in this format.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 12 2010 23:57 GMT
#468
On March 13 2010 07:58 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 01:49 Incognito wrote:
On March 13 2010 01:32 L wrote:
On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:
On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:
On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted?

I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore.


4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game.


Also

On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate.


I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la...

I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler.

And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me.

But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up?

It doesn't.

I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in.


Uh I didn't say mafia would rather have me in office than you. I said I think they'd prefer to have you in office. The reason is because, as you have already noticed, people are trying to discredit and doubt you. I'd think its much easier to discredit you than me, and thus the mafia might think that they can deal with you better in office than me. I'm not saying mafia will be scared of me, but that it will just be more difficult to get rid of me than you.

It was a rhetorical question. Ie, mafia would much rather have you in office sitting around nothing nothing as a green.

Your statement here essentially implies that you aren't going actually step up and lead and be held accountable for the results. Somehow I don't see how that's a quality you should have.

Show nested quote +
We already know who the DT is....
You know who's claimed to be the DT. You know he didn't want you to know, and you have no evidence supporting anything beyond that. Once we have a rolecheck or two to confirm his identity, we'll know things for certain.


Once again, I'm not green. Why do you keep saying that? Its just like everyone else saying you're DT.

I'm not implying that I'm trying to avoid leading. Yay reading comprehension. I'm looking at it from the a likely mafia point of view. You've done a good job painting me green, which may keep me alive once I lose office. Its harder to throw dirt on me. It would be simpler just to kill me. Its just a lot easier to discredit someone who posts abrasively and unclearly. Like you. So just look carefully at the people who vote you then try to plant seeds of doubt. That is all.

L seriously, who do you think of lynching if elected mayor?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 13 2010 00:09 GMT
#469
BTW I do have a plan, but like you L I will wait until tonight's DT checks come back before I spill the beans.

For now:

DT Check List:
CynanMachae
~OpZ~
Sidesprang

Medic Prot List:
Incognito
Bodyguard A
Bodyguard B
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 13 2010 00:11 GMT
#470
Oh 2 notes:

1. The above assumes L and BC win offices.
2. Please refrain from deviating from this list unless you have VERY good reasons.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 13 2010 00:18 GMT
#471
I'd also like to re-iterate that the public conception of me and it's perception of me make it plain to see that the chances of my being red are literally slim to none. In this instance, I implore you all to shift votes towards me and enable my creation of a town circle. I am not going to ask you to roleclaim to me in PM, but I ask you to at least consider PMing me so we can have a nice talk. This will enable me to analyze the way that people are PMing me, and I can organize files on you within a sort of "portfolio" word document. I'm not going to be quoting you if necessary, I would just like to start taking the way that you act and what your opinions of helping the town are. I will be "going door to door" so to speak, pming everyone so that I at least send a pm to every town aligned player.

Sorry to those of you who are red that I will be pming, but please don't reply to it.
I don't feel like talking to you at this time. If you would like to admit it, that's fine, but I would personally rather you didn't. I'm trying to have fun catching you. Those of you who want to catch MAFIA with me SPEAK UP. Other than Incognito(with his town archives), and possibly bloodyc0bbler (with his plan in the position that we have 2 dts, checkable in office[i don't trust that, btw, because i feel like he could be a godfather claiming dt {if he wins the election first that is}]).

I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L.

I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L.
Malongo Chile. March 11 2010 11:28. Posts 2786 PM Profile Blog Quote
dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit.
posting that right underneath

When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly.

L is a lot harder to pin, but I'll just use the fact that he's lying through his teeth.

"On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote:
I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town."

On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote:
"Am I L?

Oh, looks like I am.

Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan."

I'm really interested in his role. If he's not the DT himself, which from this point on I don't really consider he is even if he shows up as that in a rolecheck, I would have the DT rolecheck L tonight.

Onto MadnessMan:

On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 09:08 Iaaan wrote:
I originally voted for incognito just because I thought it would be nice to protect a veteran who posts alot. No ses pools of noobiness/inactivty.

But, I'm changing my vote to BC, simply because he looks like the candidate that is easiest to hold accountable. L is quite ambiguous. Not answering questions/confirming things and posting lots of walls of text.

Also, I think that whichever of the three doesn't win will probably be the first person lynched if they aren't mafia.


I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. I wouldn't say his posts are gems "chock full of chocolatey goodness," but they DO have a lot of substance. It's just that his rhetoric/phrasing make it very easy to miss what he implies. As such, I don't think he should be readily dismissed as a candidate just because he is not confirming things... My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver.


MadnessMan is basically a radio advertisement for L's campaign. He did the same thing for BC, sure, but he's blindly sticking with the weakest of the 3 candidates whenever he is a very analytical person. He knows L is scummy, because he is scummy himself, so he has to shift his playstyle away from what he has been doing in previous games to try and hide the fact that he's red. Not this time, the jig is up.

Fulgrim wrote something that I found interesting too. "Especially since its not critical if we lose the sheriff role to a godfather, because even if we do there would be no way to tell by simple DT chekcs." This alone wouldn't ring any alarm bells, but I am reminded of a line by L stating that he needs the mayor's spot.

Last but not least is ~OpZ~. He has been the least active of them, having real life commitments, and he comes out with that as his excuse for being red, maintaining KP, and not giving himself away. Seems and feels scummy to me. I would consider lynching him if people wanted to save Malongo in large numbers (if I was Mayor, which I won't be).
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 13 2010 00:31 GMT
#472
we'll see if fulgrim shifts his vote to L.
I'm not 100% on him.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 13 2010 00:47 GMT
#473
Yeah, so I'm going to kill Bill Murray if voted in. He's 100% wrong about me, and every single post of his has been an attempt to incriminate me.

Also, no, incog, the DT lists will not be that, but given that DT checks get returned at the end of the night, I have plenty of time to explain what's going on to those involved.

Its just a lot easier to discredit someone who posts abrasively and unclearly. Like you.
I am posting VERY clearly, but people are intentionally ignoring what I'm writing. You, personally caught one person trying to do so, IE spazz a few pages. ago.

Discrediting someone who posts LARGE amounts of content is generally done on the basis of their objective actions: Bussed a bunch of innocents? Y'all probably gon get killed. Made some mistakes? Y'all probably gon get called on them. Leading involves making mistakes, but more importantly it involves taking a stance. Your assumption is that your posting style is somehow 'town' but there's no indication of that. If I really wanted to throw dirt on you, I would, but there's just no point in doing that now.

Your vote list is the fishiest shit I've ever seen, you're now saying you have a 'plan' and ask to DT check people when I specifically said DT checks on night 1 are an integral part of my plan and you're throwing dirt at me rather directly. You're also claiming at once that you're both 1) Worthy of being medic protected and 2) Green. The two do not add up.

I could push this line of reasoning, but why? To make someone who's likely town look bad in the future? No point. You'll probably be checked on day 2 or 3 too, so why bother with suspicions when we'll largely have proof soon enough.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 13 2010 00:50 GMT
#474
I need PMs from candidates that are running with who they'd like to lynch. Night post can't go up without it. Of course, we know that L will be lynching BM..., so if BC and Incog wouldn't mind...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 13 2010 00:55 GMT
#475
On March 13 2010 09:47 L wrote:
You're also claiming at once that you're both 1) Worthy of being medic protected and 2) Green. The two do not add up.

I could push this line of reasoning, but why?


because it's wrong?
how many times do you want him to post
Once again, I'm not green. Why do you keep saying that?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 13 2010 01:02 GMT
#476
Because he's pretty obviously lying?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 13 2010 01:06 GMT
#477
It's tough to organize the town when they don't want to be organized, or are inactive.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 13 2010 01:08 GMT
#478
Oh, no, its pretty easy to organize the town, but you need to give them a reason to believe you above pointing fingers at people who are going to flip town.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 13 2010 01:09 GMT
#479
Also, Ver was pretty certain C0bbler, Ace, and Redtooth were all red that other game. two blues and a green right there. Day 1 analysis is always fishy, L. I just want to do as much as I can to help the town. If fulgrim shifts his vote to you, though, that will be sketchy as fuck.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 13 2010 01:11 GMT
#480
Which is exactly what you're doing.
That's the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it.
You're going to lynch someone who is trying to help the town? I'm honestly trying to figure out who is red. If you get elected, and lynch me, my name won't be red.
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