On March 06 2009 05:16 Jaeden wrote:
lol yeah, his argument was weird, but your example is even worse ^^
lol yeah, his argument was weird, but your example is even worse ^^
Fixed.
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On March 06 2009 05:16 Jaeden wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2009 05:09 abakben wrote: On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote: Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall. I really do not understand your argument. You just picked the last 6 games of Bisu and concluded that he should be in second place. Let us look at the last 8 games of Jaedong: LWLLWLWW. lol yeah, his argument was weird, but your example is even worse ^^ Fixed. | ||
fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote: Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall. You're so biased it's laughable. | ||
Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
but hey estro is just as interesting. dont even have a pic lol | ||
raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On March 06 2009 02:55 Ideas wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2009 02:20 done wrote: would love to see by.hero in here next time...this kid got some really promising results against S-class players lately the thing about by.hero is that he'll beat bisu in 1 game and then lose to canata in the very next game. uhgg Thats , because he sucks vs mech like most inexperienced zergs ... | ||
DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote: Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall. Bisu is LWLLWL becuase of his ridiculous bo5 vs Jaedong. And taking 2 games from Jaedong is actually an impressive feat, seeing as nobody outside of the PR top 5 could probably take 2 games in a big even like the GOM finals Bisu went a ridiculous 20 wins - 5 losses (80.00%) in Febuary ALONE. 37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in January AND Febuary So to judge Bisu on his last 6 games is pretty dick And i think the reason why Jaedong is behind Bisu is this.. Bisu has lived up to the hype. He totally kicked ass in the GOM S2 and kicked ass all over the WL both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now | ||
DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On March 06 2009 06:08 raga4ka wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2009 02:55 Ideas wrote: On March 06 2009 02:20 done wrote: would love to see by.hero in here next time...this kid got some really promising results against S-class players lately the thing about by.hero is that he'll beat bisu in 1 game and then lose to canata in the very next game. uhgg Thats , because he sucks vs mech like most inexperience zergs ... agreed. And seeing how T1 is like the "godfather" of the mechanized TvZ play... I'm pretty sure all T1 terrans can play mech proficiantly with their eyes closed ..i'm still on the fence with by.hero i dont know if he kicks ass or is just another vP sniper time will tell | ||
raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On March 05 2009 16:06 Empyrean wrote: You honestly think July has a chance of beating Bisu in a bo5? :/ Besides Jaedong, I think the only player at the moment who could stand a chance would be Jangbi, and to a lesser extent, Flash (not really on Flash, here). Anyone else remember that PvP on Destination where Jangbi's insane multitask and control sealed the win with multiple harass on different fronts? The storm drops were just devastating, and Jangbi's defense was rock solid. Bisu had nothing on Jangbi, who was in control the entire game. That being said, Bisu for sure deserves the number one spot. ...I await the day EffOrt appears on the powerrank Of course July has a chance he's always been a ZvP monster like others have said he has at least 40 % chances to take down Bisu . Besides Jaedong hmm by.hero is 3 - 0 against Bisu in this recent months and 3 - 1 overall against him so he should have a decent chance from what i have seen from him . I don't know how is Flash's form after he exited the leagues . I agree with JangBi thought he certainly has the skills to kill Bisu even in a series , but seems to lack something to do that effectively . I don't know how other players forms are to speculate | ||
Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
On March 06 2009 06:13 DreaM)XeRO wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote: Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall. Bisu is LWLLWL becuase of his ridiculous bo5 vs Jaedong. And taking 2 games from Jaedong is actually an impressive feat, seeing as nobody outside of the PR top 5 could probably take 2 games in a big even like the GOM finals Bisu went a ridiculous 20 wins - 5 losses (80.00%) in Febuary ALONE. 37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in January AND Febuary So to judge Bisu on his last 6 games is pretty dick And i think the reason why Jaedong is behind Bisu is this.. Bisu has lived up to the hype. He totally kicked ass in the GOM S2 and kicked ass all over the WL both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now Yea, i've seen every single Bisu game in 09 and and he's a monster. He's awesome, but jaedong is no worse, and he beat Bisu just recently in bo5, bo5 is the least random thing in korean pro sc and should be taken into consideration for sure. I just think JD is the best player right now or top3 at worst (in a complete circle of elite players Flash > Jaedong > Bisu > Flash) | ||
Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On March 06 2009 06:27 raga4ka wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2009 16:06 Empyrean wrote: You honestly think July has a chance of beating Bisu in a bo5? :/ Besides Jaedong, I think the only player at the moment who could stand a chance would be Jangbi, and to a lesser extent, Flash (not really on Flash, here). Anyone else remember that PvP on Destination where Jangbi's insane multitask and control sealed the win with multiple harass on different fronts? The storm drops were just devastating, and Jangbi's defense was rock solid. Bisu had nothing on Jangbi, who was in control the entire game. That being said, Bisu for sure deserves the number one spot. ...I await the day EffOrt appears on the powerrank Of course July has a chance he's always been a ZvP monster like others have said he has at least 40 % chances to take down Bisu . Besides Jaedong hmm by.hero is 3 - 0 against Bisu in this recent months and 3 - 1 overall against him so he should have a decent chance from what i have seen from him . I don't know how is Flash's form after he exited the leagues . I agree with JangBi thought he certainly has the skills to kill Bisu even in a series , but seems to lack something to do that effectively . I don't know how other players forms are to speculate I think only Flash,JD,Stork and Best in their best forms could take out the Bisu of now in a series. July. I wouldn't give him 40%,but who knows. | ||
QibingZero
2611 Posts
For instance, I'm not convinced in Bisu's new age PvZ. Everyone knows what he's going to do now, and when he doesn't do it, he pulls stuff like in Jaedong-Bisu game 5. Mostly though, players have been adapting to his harass heavy style and completely shutting it down (following Jaedong's example, I might add). However, even with Jaedong beating him (and the fact that I believe Jaedong will always win a bo5 between the two), I think he deserves the top spot based on overall play. | ||
infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On March 06 2009 06:13 DreaM)XeRO wrote: both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now Seems to be quickly forgetting how he crashed out of both the MSL/OSL though...lucky he got a second chance at one of them. | ||
fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 06 2009 07:28 infinity2k9 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2009 06:13 DreaM)XeRO wrote: both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now Seems to be quickly forgetting how he crashed out of both the MSL/OSL though...lucky he got a second chance at one of them. Second chance is luck. Domination after that second chance is being on fire, as well as his WL performance. | ||
n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On March 05 2009 15:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2009 14:16 n.DieJokes wrote: Are we not counting the end result of the "most hyped match ever"? Sure it was a crappy game but c'mon, one person walked away the victor and it was not the num.1 on the pr. Bisu has played consistantly stronger over the duration of February. The only way Jaedong would be #1 was if he totally destroyed Bisu. The series was immensely close, and both players were stellar. Bisu has been better in the games he's played outside that series by a pretty significant margin, why on earth would Jaedong be #1 when that GOM series was as close as it was? You can't decide this shit on one best-of-five, players are more than one matchup and five games. I understand that, its just that most of your descriptions in the power rank regard the bo5 series instead of their play as a whole so I figured you were drawing heavily from that series for inspiration. I'm not saying Bisu isn't a totally valid num.1. | ||
xxbluejay21
United States94 Posts
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disciple
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
Don't get me wrong, he earned his round of 8 spot, but he's nothing special and he's not playing exceptionally well. Right now he's just a zerg, and an unreliable zerg at that. | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On March 06 2009 12:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: The hype is coming from the fact that he beat bisu and made the Ro8. Worthy of hype, but I agree, his overall game leaves a lot to be desired.by.hero's really not that good, I can't understand where this hype is coming from. This is akin to the BackHo fandom except by.hero is actually competent in some ways. Don't get me wrong, he earned his round of 8 spot, but he's nothing special and he's not playing exceptionally well. Right now he's just a zerg, and an unreliable zerg at that. | ||
Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On March 06 2009 13:01 Plexa wrote: Show nested quote + The hype is coming from the fact that he beat bisu and made the Ro8. Worthy of hype, but I agree, his overall game leaves a lot to be desired.On March 06 2009 12:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: by.hero's really not that good, I can't understand where this hype is coming from. This is akin to the BackHo fandom except by.hero is actually competent in some ways. Don't get me wrong, he earned his round of 8 spot, but he's nothing special and he's not playing exceptionally well. Right now he's just a zerg, and an unreliable zerg at that. Well, he is inconsistent. But then again, he hasn't played many games recently. The few he did play though looked pretty good to me. He's a machine vs Protoss. However he's facing Hwasin in the OSL, who obviously isn't a protoss. Instead he is a machine himself. Vs. Zerg | ||
Rostam
United States2552 Posts
The fact that Hwasin has really good TvZ will imo be less problematic than the fact that they're teammates, being the younger less experienced player it's probably going to be harder for him to deal with this kind of situation when it comes to preparing. I'm kind of curious if July is still going to be helping him out. | ||
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