EPTPower Rank 03/04/2009 - Page 9
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
He definitely showed the results ->BUT<- his game play and overall fashion of winning was just a pain in the ass and often very poor.. If u want to get top 3 u have to do both.. I think storks placing is alright | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
I mean, if Stork played poorly, that doesn't exactly say much for the skills of July, Jaedong, and Yarnc. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
And Stork beat Jaedong the same way he defeated Yarnc and July, even if it was this month. What he did against Jaedong simply confirmed that his placement on the PR is legit. And so is his PvZ(given practice time). | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Rereading these posts, it seems we all agree on Stork's placement on the PR. We just state it differently. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 07 2009 10:48 Avidkeystamper wrote: Yes, obviously his placement is legit, but he is too inconsistent right now, but he has started to show signs of improvement. FYI, you were talking about his gameplay, I don't see how I sidetracked it by showing how he's still pretty inconsistent, even in PvZ. Stork's not inconsistent. In fact, you can say he's VERY consistent in his play. If only you don't just use the TLPD for monthly totals, you'd see how consistent Stork is. And why he continues to advance in the starleagues despite a crappy record overall. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
"If only you don't just use the TLPD for monthly totals, you'd see how consistent Stork is" Yes, thank you for generalizing something untrue about me, I appreciate it, good argument. I'll cite an example, vs Kwanro in the winner's league, he walks his shuttle into hydras, that's not consistency. See? I do watch his games. Obviously, I only used that argument to show that he is not "VERY consistent" and that I do watch his games. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 07 2009 12:26 Avidkeystamper wrote: Yes, I have seen his games, and I don't see how you could say Stork is "VERY consistent". He might have been, and is starting to be again. Anyways, I was describing his performance last month, not right now. And by consistent, I mean consistently good, because that doesn't give an "overall crappy record". He only started to show signs of consistency near the end of the month. "If only you don't just use the TLPD for monthly totals, you'd see how consistent Stork is" Yes, thank you for generalizing something untrue about me, I appreciate it, good argument. I'll cite an example, vs Kwanro in the winner's league, he walks his shuttle into hydras, that's not consistency. See? I do watch his games. Obviously, I only used that argument to show that he is not "VERY consistent" and that I do watch his games. You watch all his games and you can't tell the difference between SL Stork with preparation and 2nd game of WL where he has no preparation!? I really find that hard to believe. | ||
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
On March 07 2009 12:20 baubo wrote: Stork's not inconsistent. In fact, you can say he's VERY consistent in his play. If only you don't just use the TLPD for monthly totals, you'd see how consistent Stork is. And why he continues to advance in the starleagues despite a crappy record overall. i'm assuming you mean lately he's had a crappy record? b/c stork has one of the best records for someone over 100 games. and this is just how stork plays. he plays extremely well during individual league tournaments (pre-finals), then chokes at the finals, slumps a bit, then rebounds by the time the next msl / osl comes around. i think this is mostly because stork is a mind player. yeah, he has great macro, but that's not his strength. he plays best when he has alot of practice time, and time to develop a strategy. stork is probably one of the very best b0x players in starcraft now. no, stork has never had a great pvz. but it really shouldn't surprise anyone that stork won a game when he's had this much preparation. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On March 07 2009 12:50 baubo wrote: You watch all his games and you can't tell the difference between SL Stork with preparation and 2nd game of WL where he has no preparation!? I really find that hard to believe. I know Stork plays differently in the individual leagues than WL. I addressed that a page back, but unfortunately WL games are games as well, and he prepared for Kwanro for his series anyways. You can't say he plays consistently and only take into account his SL games where he plays consistently. If he's bombing WL, which he is, then that is not consistency. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 07 2009 12:55 brjdrb wrote: i'm assuming you mean lately he's had a crappy record? b/c stork has one of the best records for someone over 100 games. and this is just how stork plays. he plays extremely well during individual league tournaments (pre-finals), then chokes at the finals, slumps a bit, then rebounds by the time the next msl / osl comes around. i think this is mostly because stork is a mind player. yeah, he has great macro, but that's not his strength. he plays best when he has alot of practice time, and time to develop a strategy. stork is probably one of the very best b0x players in starcraft now. no, stork has never had a great pvz. but it really shouldn't surprise anyone that stork won a game when he's had this much preparation. Past 100 games doesn't really matter when it comes to the PR. I was referring to his play following his OSL win, which had been mediocre at best. On March 07 2009 14:43 Avidkeystamper wrote: I know Stork plays differently in the individual leagues than WL. I addressed that a page back, but unfortunately WL games are games as well, and he prepared for Kwanro for his series anyways. You can't say he plays consistently and only take into account his SL games where he plays consistently. If he's bombing WL, which he is, then that is not consistency. You don't see how he's consistent in the WL? Look, I can't talk much about Jaedong like you because I don't watch Oz games much. But by the same token, you shouldn't just assume things about Stork when you obviously don't know about his play or usage by Khan. Stork is almost always used by Khan as the PvT sniper. He tends to win a lot of these, because his PvT is the ONLY matchup he does not have to prepare for. Hence, he consistently wins his PvTs in the WL. The opposing team, though, will almost always snipe Stork with a zerg next. And this is where his lack of PvZ game sense shows. And he consistently loses that game. So yes, Stork is very consistent in his play, both in his wins and losses. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 06 2009 21:22 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: This is like the most accurate PR I ever enjoyed reading. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy reading the other accurate PRs  | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
Jaedong is dumb. It was all his mistake to lose that game. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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latent
United States428 Posts
But yeah, Bisu's definitely number one, especially + Show Spoiler + after his all-kill of WeMade Fox | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On March 07 2009 18:06 latent wrote: Light...? He exited from the individual leagues *so early*. How can he be on the power ranking when all he has to worry about is the WL? Give his spot to zero. Put light in the CBNC. But yeah, Bisu's definitely number one, especially + Show Spoiler + after his all-kill of WeMade Fox With this logic Flash shouldn't be on the PR either. Light was exited from the MSL in a really dumb fashion,that's true,but that was two months ago,and from the OSL Bisu and JD booted him,and you just can't honestly say that anybody outside of the PR would have qualified against JD or Bisu. Although I agree that maybe Hwasin should be higher,but Light has every rights to be on the PR. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 07 2009 15:16 Avidkeystamper wrote: I was judging consistency on how well he played last season to early this season to right now, and that's changed. So he's inconsistent in that respect. So there's really nothing to talk abou there, then, since we're judging using different criterias. What are you talking about? Stork's been doing this shit for the entire season. He 2-0s his MSL group. 2-1 Ro8. He went 3-1 in OSL tiebreakers to get out of his OSL group. All the while, piling up 1-1s or 0-1s in WL play. Stork has proven again and again how much he relies on practice to win games. It's been the same his entire fucking career. And a big reason why I'm a fan of him. It's so great to see him abuse maps and opening BOs in every game to get the max advantage. | ||
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