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abakben
Profile Joined April 2007
United States308 Posts
March 05 2009 20:45 GMT
#141
On March 06 2009 05:16 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 05:09 abakben wrote:
On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote:
Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall.

I really do not understand your argument. You just picked the last 6 games of Bisu and concluded that he should be in second place. Let us look at the last 8 games of Jaedong: LWLLWLWW.

lol yeah, his argument was weird, but your example is even worse ^^

Fixed.
Three big B's (BEST-BISU-BOXER) fighting for SKT1. All we need is a good zerg to dominate the Proleague:)
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 05 2009 20:47 GMT
#142
On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote:
Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall.

You're so biased it's laughable.
Peace~
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
March 05 2009 20:56 GMT
#143
i think by.hero deserves number 10 :D
but hey estro is just as interesting. dont even have a pic lol
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 21:56:53
March 05 2009 21:08 GMT
#144
On March 06 2009 02:55 Ideas wrote:
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On March 06 2009 02:20 done wrote:
would love to see by.hero in here next time...this kid got some really promising results against S-class players lately


the thing about by.hero is that he'll beat bisu in 1 game and then lose to canata in the very next game. uhgg


Thats , because he sucks vs mech like most inexperienced zergs ...
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 05 2009 21:13 GMT
#145
On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote:
Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall.


Bisu is LWLLWL becuase of his ridiculous bo5 vs Jaedong.
And taking 2 games from Jaedong is actually an impressive feat, seeing as nobody outside of the PR top 5 could probably take 2 games in a big even like the GOM finals

Bisu went a ridiculous 20 wins - 5 losses (80.00%) in Febuary ALONE.
37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in January AND Febuary
So to judge Bisu on his last 6 games is pretty dick

And i think the reason why Jaedong is behind Bisu is this..
Bisu has lived up to the hype. He totally kicked ass in the GOM S2
and kicked ass all over the WL

both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now


cw)minsean(ru
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 05 2009 21:14 GMT
#146
On March 06 2009 06:08 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 02:55 Ideas wrote:
On March 06 2009 02:20 done wrote:
would love to see by.hero in here next time...this kid got some really promising results against S-class players lately

the thing about by.hero is that he'll beat bisu in 1 game and then lose to canata in the very next game. uhgg

Thats , because he sucks vs mech like most inexperience zergs ...

agreed. And seeing how T1 is like the "godfather" of the mechanized TvZ play...
I'm pretty sure all T1 terrans can play mech proficiantly with their eyes closed

..i'm still on the fence with by.hero
i dont know if he kicks ass or is just another vP sniper
time will tell
cw)minsean(ru
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
March 05 2009 21:27 GMT
#147
On March 05 2009 16:06 Empyrean wrote:
You honestly think July has a chance of beating Bisu in a bo5? :/

Besides Jaedong, I think the only player at the moment who could stand a chance would be Jangbi, and to a lesser extent, Flash (not really on Flash, here). Anyone else remember that PvP on Destination where Jangbi's insane multitask and control sealed the win with multiple harass on different fronts? The storm drops were just devastating, and Jangbi's defense was rock solid. Bisu had nothing on Jangbi, who was in control the entire game.

That being said, Bisu for sure deserves the number one spot.

...I await the day EffOrt appears on the powerrank


Of course July has a chance he's always been a ZvP monster like others have said he has at least 40 % chances to take down Bisu . Besides Jaedong hmm by.hero is 3 - 0 against Bisu in this recent months and 3 - 1 overall against him so he should have a decent chance from what i have seen from him . I don't know how is Flash's form after he exited the leagues . I agree with JangBi thought he certainly has the skills to kill Bisu even in a series , but seems to lack something to do that effectively . I don't know how other players forms are to speculate
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
March 05 2009 21:44 GMT
#148
On March 06 2009 06:13 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 04:41 Magic84 wrote:
Honorable mentions should be Free, By.hero, Zero, Kal had a great month. Bisu is LWLLWL, got trashed by by.hero yet again. And bo5 is no joke, Jaedong deserved first place as well, The Group of Death was in February though, so i can see how he's not 1, nice list overall.


Bisu is LWLLWL becuase of his ridiculous bo5 vs Jaedong.
And taking 2 games from Jaedong is actually an impressive feat, seeing as nobody outside of the PR top 5 could probably take 2 games in a big even like the GOM finals

Bisu went a ridiculous 20 wins - 5 losses (80.00%) in Febuary ALONE.
37 wins - 11 losses (77.08%) in January AND Febuary
So to judge Bisu on his last 6 games is pretty dick

And i think the reason why Jaedong is behind Bisu is this..
Bisu has lived up to the hype. He totally kicked ass in the GOM S2
and kicked ass all over the WL

both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now



Yea, i've seen every single Bisu game in 09 and and he's a monster. He's awesome, but jaedong is no worse, and he beat Bisu just recently in bo5, bo5 is the least random thing in korean pro sc and should be taken into consideration for sure. I just think JD is the best player right now or top3 at worst (in a complete circle of elite players Flash > Jaedong > Bisu > Flash)
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
March 05 2009 21:46 GMT
#149
On March 06 2009 06:27 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:06 Empyrean wrote:
You honestly think July has a chance of beating Bisu in a bo5? :/

Besides Jaedong, I think the only player at the moment who could stand a chance would be Jangbi, and to a lesser extent, Flash (not really on Flash, here). Anyone else remember that PvP on Destination where Jangbi's insane multitask and control sealed the win with multiple harass on different fronts? The storm drops were just devastating, and Jangbi's defense was rock solid. Bisu had nothing on Jangbi, who was in control the entire game.

That being said, Bisu for sure deserves the number one spot.

...I await the day EffOrt appears on the powerrank


Of course July has a chance he's always been a ZvP monster like others have said he has at least 40 % chances to take down Bisu . Besides Jaedong hmm by.hero is 3 - 0 against Bisu in this recent months and 3 - 1 overall against him so he should have a decent chance from what i have seen from him . I don't know how is Flash's form after he exited the leagues . I agree with JangBi thought he certainly has the skills to kill Bisu even in a series , but seems to lack something to do that effectively . I don't know how other players forms are to speculate

I think only Flash,JD,Stork and Best in their best forms could take out the Bisu of now in a series. July. I wouldn't give him 40%,but who knows.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
March 05 2009 21:52 GMT
#150
As always, I disagree with a lot of the reasoning. However, in quite the reversal, I think the rankings are spot on.

For instance, I'm not convinced in Bisu's new age PvZ. Everyone knows what he's going to do now, and when he doesn't do it, he pulls stuff like in Jaedong-Bisu game 5. Mostly though, players have been adapting to his harass heavy style and completely shutting it down (following Jaedong's example, I might add). However, even with Jaedong beating him (and the fact that I believe Jaedong will always win a bo5 between the two), I think he deserves the top spot based on overall play.
Oh, my eSports
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
March 05 2009 22:28 GMT
#151
On March 06 2009 06:13 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now


Seems to be quickly forgetting how he crashed out of both the MSL/OSL though...lucky he got a second chance at one of them.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 05 2009 22:32 GMT
#152
On March 06 2009 07:28 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 06:13 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
both players are on fire, but i think the majority of TL will agree with me when i say Bisu is just a little hotter than JD right now


Seems to be quickly forgetting how he crashed out of both the MSL/OSL though...lucky he got a second chance at one of them.

Second chance is luck. Domination after that second chance is being on fire, as well as his WL performance.
Peace~
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
March 05 2009 23:39 GMT
#153
On March 05 2009 15:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 14:16 n.DieJokes wrote:
Are we not counting the end result of the "most hyped match ever"? Sure it was a crappy game but c'mon, one person walked away the victor and it was not the num.1 on the pr.


Bisu has played consistantly stronger over the duration of February. The only way Jaedong would be #1 was if he totally destroyed Bisu. The series was immensely close, and both players were stellar. Bisu has been better in the games he's played outside that series by a pretty significant margin, why on earth would Jaedong be #1 when that GOM series was as close as it was? You can't decide this shit on one best-of-five, players are more than one matchup and five games.

I understand that, its just that most of your descriptions in the power rank regard the bo5 series instead of their play as a whole so I figured you were drawing heavily from that series for inspiration. I'm not saying Bisu isn't a totally valid num.1.
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
xxbluejay21
Profile Joined February 2009
United States94 Posts
March 06 2009 02:05 GMT
#154
YEAH BISU OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG
When I looked out the window, I saw my family, and my teammates... and my coach who suffered so much because of me... and I realized that I could not fall easily in the last game. -LEE. JAE. DONG. ZERG. LEGEND. HERO.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
March 06 2009 02:46 GMT
#155
one more for by.hero being badass killing machine for PR
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 06 2009 03:23 GMT
#156
by.hero's really not that good, I can't understand where this hype is coming from. This is akin to the BackHo fandom except by.hero is actually competent in some ways.

Don't get me wrong, he earned his round of 8 spot, but he's nothing special and he's not playing exceptionally well. Right now he's just a zerg, and an unreliable zerg at that.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 06 2009 03:48 GMT
#157
The way I see it, the more by.hero wins, the most justified Bisu's loss to him become. So gogo by.hero!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 06 2009 04:01 GMT
#158
On March 06 2009 12:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
by.hero's really not that good, I can't understand where this hype is coming from. This is akin to the BackHo fandom except by.hero is actually competent in some ways.

Don't get me wrong, he earned his round of 8 spot, but he's nothing special and he's not playing exceptionally well. Right now he's just a zerg, and an unreliable zerg at that.
The hype is coming from the fact that he beat bisu and made the Ro8. Worthy of hype, but I agree, his overall game leaves a lot to be desired.
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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
March 06 2009 05:16 GMT
#159
On March 06 2009 13:01 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 12:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
by.hero's really not that good, I can't understand where this hype is coming from. This is akin to the BackHo fandom except by.hero is actually competent in some ways.

Don't get me wrong, he earned his round of 8 spot, but he's nothing special and he's not playing exceptionally well. Right now he's just a zerg, and an unreliable zerg at that.
The hype is coming from the fact that he beat bisu and made the Ro8. Worthy of hype, but I agree, his overall game leaves a lot to be desired.


Well, he is inconsistent. But then again, he hasn't played many games recently. The few he did play though looked pretty good to me. He's a machine vs Protoss. However he's facing Hwasin in the OSL, who obviously isn't a protoss. Instead he is a machine himself. Vs. Zerg
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 05:24:15
March 06 2009 05:20 GMT
#160
He's not inconsistent, his other matchups just aren't as good as his ZvP. His ZvP has been looking really sharp lately and I'm very interested to see if he can improve his other matchups enough to become a top player within the next season or two.

The fact that Hwasin has really good TvZ will imo be less problematic than the fact that they're teammates, being the younger less experienced player it's probably going to be harder for him to deal with this kind of situation when it comes to preparing. I'm kind of curious if July is still going to be helping him out.
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