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Austria853 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule18941 Posts
On August 28 2023 22:24 KwarK wrote: At some point I may go to Delve have you learned nothing? | ||
KwarK
United States41656 Posts
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
It’s made the game boring. A low value job. It’s too easy to be fun. So I think the next step is obvious. Roleplay. We’ve got stuck in Saranen with whatever we have to hand, our skills at diplomacy, and each other. We can buy skill books and bpos only. We must cooperate to sustain ourselves and move up the tech tree. If we lose our machariel that’s a serious, almost irreplaceable loss. We might have to go run sites in Angel space to look for another bpc, for example. But when we find one it’ll be a game changer, it’ll unlock new fleet options. When we design fleets it’ll be around working within our constraints. Tier 1 hulls are much cheaper in terms of our labour etc. When we chose what our goals are it won’t simply be “how does the isk/hr doing this compare to other things”, it’ll be “what does this unlock for the corp”. Salvage becomes a lot better when you’re currently flying unrigged ships for example. It’s a high value activity, it’s just the broader macroeconomic situation has created a surplus of supply. If we see a valuable ship that we need in a site then the goal is no longer to kill him for piracy’s sake but rather to get him to eject. We may hold him in position while we bring up the smart bombing BS alt and let him know in local that if he doesn’t eject soon he’ll lose implants too. The suboptimal plays that you make to meet the artificially imposed constraints are what makes the game a game. Working within them and problem solving. I will be attempting this and I encourage you to join me. No more Jita. From each according to their means to all for our collective needs. | ||
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Calanthe
United States138 Posts
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
Anyway, someone has already min-maxed that challenge. https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ironman-challenge/240831 Have fun | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
https://zkillboard.com/related/30001442/202310012000/ | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule18941 Posts
we did, unfortunately, lose a few flights of t1 drones to the vargur | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
We had a WH in system and some stranded caps 1j away in Isto to bring north. So in the middle of this huge fight Calanthe lights a cyno with a goonswarm rapier and a carrier plus a dread jump into into system. They promptly align to the middle of nowhere, warp off into open space, and disappear from the system. No further caps jump in and the goon cyno rapier also departs. It amuses me to imagine both sides reacting to this, given the already committed capitals. | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
https://zkillboard.com/related/30001442/202310280600/ | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
Poll: Blue the RBC gang? Yes, because they generate content (3) No, because NPSI frenemies is fine (2) Yes, because I want my space to be safe (0) No, because shooting them is also content (0) No, other reason (0) 5 total votes You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Yes, because I want my space to be safe | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
https://zkillboard.com/related/30001441/202401202100/ I saw two covetors on dscan and called them out to VoV to go investigate. VoV, during his investigations, also saw a tengu briefly on dscan. And then when he looked in the site he saw a tengu wreck on grid so clearly there had been fighting in this gas site already. We checked zkill for the system and found this: https://zkillboard.com/kill/114945430/ The dead tengu was in the same group as the covetors. To us that implied that the mysterious disappearing tengu might be the same guy reshipped and guarding them. I wanted to go in battle venture guns blazing but VoV argued the need for caution and an assumption that the covetors were protected by a tengu. He made me wait for his curse. Battle venture warped in and landed on the covetors to enable us to scram one if they tried to leave after local spiked. We initiated warp in the lach and then initiated with the venture. Tengu instantly decloaks and goes for the venture. Lach lands and points the tengu but the lach has no guns and the blasters on the venture are no match for the tengu's native resists. Fortunately the curse arrives and starts neuting it out. The second covetor has warped off by this point though and grabs a loki to take to the field. I grab a nearby PvE retribution character from a mission and pull it into the action. Neuted out tengu is primary, curse is holding point on the loki while the tengu is scrammed by the lach. At this point the field is tengu loki covetor vs lach curse venture retribution. With the tengu neuted out the EM damage of the ab retribution racks up its first kill and takes it down. The battle venture takes down the covetor a few seconds later. We're thinking we've won as we switch our attention to the loki but they reship in a nighthawk and cerberus respectively and now the fight is serious. The battle venture flees leaving a retribution lach curse vs a loki nighthawk cerberus. However the loki is neuted out and missile disrupted by the curse while the kinetic damage of the nighthawk and cerb seem to do little to a full passive tank lach with heated invuln. A friendly from RBC passes through local and I msg him and throw him a fleet invite telling him to warp onto grid in whatever he has. Unfortunately it turns out he's in an arazu and so our gang is 3 recons with no guns and a PvE retribution. However as the retribution brings down the loki and the battle turns the nighthawk attempts to MJD out only to be caught by the arazu with ee han timing. Turns out it was exactly what we needed. Who knew. The cowardly nighthawk had abandoned the cerb to his death at the hands of the retribution and went down shortly after. That left just a nighthawk on grid. We ground it down with our drone damage until the retribution got there to bring the scorch pain. And right as it was about to die who would return but the bold battle venture, bringing it all back to where it all started. That turned out to be the perfect ship for the cause as the quick lock speed enabled it to snag and kill the nighthawk pod. Turns out the tengu/nighthawk was rocking a full set of HG nirvanas. Who knew. Tengu Covetor Loki Cerberus Nighthawk Pod 7b kills. No losses. Naturally they complained in local of us blobbing them. After all what could they have done with a loki tengu cerberus on grid vs a lach curse retribution. They really had no chance. [03:44:17] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Nannaras [03:54:17] Stigga Jasmone > a bunch of stupid blobbers [03:55:13] Edsi Tawate > worthless cockerels [03:55:37] Edsi Tawate > come here you creature [03:55:40] Edsi Tawate > where did you go [03:56:00] Edsi Tawate > stinking filth [03:58:13] Edsi Tawate > Juliet Shikkoken suck the bolt asshole [03:58:35] Boulder Penken > gf [03:58:38] Juliet Shikkoken > gf [03:58:40] Boulder Penken > ya big salty fuck lol [03:59:02] Stigga Jasmone > Boulder Penken Juliet Shikkoken worthless Canadian gosiks [03:59:30] Juliet Shikkoken > welcome to canada, cyka blyat [03:59:53] Stigga Jasmone > Juliet Shikkoken Boulder Penken to you and your mom. [04:00:03] Stigga Jasmone > >Boulder Penken I'm here for a long time [04:00:28] Stigga Jasmone > Wrathful Penguins and what's next? I'm not poor. you link this garbage to the homeless people from the corporation [04:00:36] Stigga Jasmone > Wrathful Penguins bichara [04:01:23] Stigga Jasmone > And the fact that you are collecting such stinking fleets once again shows how infuriating I am with you. because I have you on kb. [04:01:33] Stigga Jasmone > So suck the bolt of the bastard We thought we won but it turns out that the fact that we are collecting such stinking fleets means that they're actually the winners. Who knew. | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
KwarK_uK — Yesterday at 1:35 PM Hi, I've been wanting pocos in lonetrek. I made an offer to buy some from you guys but nobody ever replied so I've just been taking them. But taking them is a very inefficient way of doing it, I have to reinforce them, then buy a new one, then anchor it. I spend more killing and replacing than they're worth and you get nothing out of losing them. Buying seems like a win/win. Trottel — Yesterday at 1:37 PM Which ones? Nannaras? KwarK_uK — Yesterday at 1:39 PM Nann is a bit late, already basically taken it now. But anin/tamo/sarenemi etc. are still on my list. Trottel — Yesterday at 1:46 PM Well, not gonna lie we are most likely just gonna take them back But I'll ask if we wanna sell em. Will let you know tomorrow KwarK_uK — Yesterday at 2:02 PM kk if you decide to take them back you should message me and buy them for the same reason I should buy off of you killing pocos is wasteful Trottel — Today at 3:57 AM Yeah we will take them back. Or buy them back for jita split KwarK_uK — Today at 7:38 AM Kk. When y’all decide to take them back and ref them you can msg me and we’ll get it done. I’ll stop at Nannaras. Trottel — Today at 7:38 AM You can't xfer them when they are reffed. KwarK_uK — Today at 7:38 AM Then we’d do it when they come out of ref. Trottel — Today at 7:39 AM Then it's the same amount of time and cost for us to just kill them v0v If you are having your doubt that we are gonna kill them, then that's on you. The truth is I'm doing you a favor by allowing you to sell them. KwarK_uK — Today at 7:42 AM We’re both doing each other a favor by talking. Trottel — Today at 7:44 AM 5 Minute ref, 5 Minute kill. You aren't saving me any effort by making me ref them KwarK_uK — Today at 7:45 AM Snuff have been ignoring the area completely for like six months as the number of pocos lost increases. Shown zero interest in selling them when asked or defending them when they’re reffed. The starting point can’t just be that I surrender them all because I reminded you that they exist. You’ve got to at least make the attempt to put at least 1 ship on grid once. Trottel — Today at 7:47 AM Snuff has been on deployment. My friend, we have hundreds of Pocos we defend daily. We have hundreds of members We don't give a shit about defending every single one. If you wanna be a smart ass about it, great. We will just kill them, it's not a big deal for us at all. KwarK_uK — Today at 7:48 AM Sure, I’m not saying you couldn’t win. I’m saying that you have to do the bare minimum to earn it. Trottel — Today at 7:48 AM I am offering you some money back. Ok cool, then we will just kill it. KwarK_uK — Today at 7:50 AM Seems pretty suboptimal. There’s a timer coming out in nannaras today, you could start by defending that one I guess. Would at least give me something to surrender to. Trottel — Today at 7:54 AM You are vastly overestimating your position here. Take the deal or leave it, I don't care personally. KwarK_uK — Today at 7:55 AM You’re treating this as far more adversarial than it is. Trottel — Today at 7:55 AM No. You are talking about conditions. Here's the truth. I have no clue if anyone can be bothered to defend today. And I don't care personally. So your options are xfer them, or we ref them once we get around to it End of discussion. You either get some money back or you don't. I do not care about either option. I felt like there was some mixed messaging from him there. On the one hand they're deployed and don't give a shit about the pocos and anyway they're too busy for this and I'm too insignificant. On the other hand I am apparently completely powerless and they refuse to accept anything less than my immediate and unconditional surrender. It didn't really make sense, if I have the power to take the pocos from them at will because they don't care enough to defend then I feel like maybe I have just a little bit of power. Perhaps not as much as them, but some power, enough to be worth bargaining with rather than simply threatening. Alas he was not receptive to this and just issued ultimatums coupled with insistences that he didn't care whether or not I accepted the ultimatum. There was only one rational option left. I surrendered all our pocos and got paid out cash value for them leaving us with approximately 4b profit from them, plus the savings on our PI. KwarK_uK — Today at 8:03 AM Ok. We surrender. How do you wanna do this? Trottel — Today at 8:08 AM Xfer them to lowlife. And we will send isk to a toon of your choice We will pay jita split per customs office. KwarK_uK — Today at 8:09 AM is there anyone online now who can pay them out as I transfer? we can do it later if that's more convenient too Trottel — Today at 8:10 AM Yeah we have someone on and we can do 1 by 1 KwarK_uK — Today at 8:10 AM kk, logging on, what's the ID of the guy I should message? Trottel — Today at 8:11 AM Insane Buddy Then, 30 mins after they bought the pocos back, he messaged me again. Trottel — Today at 9:07 AM Very funny KwarK_uK — Today at 9:07 AM It didn't have to be this way and it still doesn't. Your approach of simply making demands and threats just didn't get the desired response. Trottel — Today at 9:09 AM My good friend, I think you vastly overestimate how much we care KwarK_uK — Today at 9:09 AM no, that's the point Trottel — Today at 9:09 AM You decided to pull a funny little meme and I'm amused KwarK_uK — Today at 9:09 AM I think you don't really care about them Trottel — Today at 9:09 AM At the end of the day, now we have motivation to defend them, so it's whatever to me KwarK_uK — Today at 9:10 AM You tried to have it both ways, demanding my immediate and absolute surrender to the forces of "we really don't care, we're not willing to show up". It wasn't a reasonable counter to what was, from me, a very reasonable stance. Trottel — Today at 9:11 AM My friend, I offered you to get some isk back And it's fine, you chose this way, now we have to defend and it's cool KwarK_uK — Today at 9:11 AM and now, despite being completely powerless in this scenario, I have the isk and your pocos are dying It turns out that someone immediately undocked some dreads and reinforced the pocos that had just been sold back to them. What a world. The pocos will surely be destroyed in this conflict between us and it appears we just got cashed out for all of them. | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
I'm glad that after 20 years eve can still deliver these kinds of story. | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
YTD Snuff have lost 39 pocos. Of those 39 30 are to me and my friends in Slow Children who joined my crusade. Of those 30 29 are in the last 2 weeks, 7 today alone. As of right now I have retaken: 5 of 8 in Tartoken with the remaining 3 reinforced. 4 of 8 in Karja with the remaining 4 reinforced. 7 of 10 in Nann with 1 more reinforced. I previously had shown zero interest in these but I have also taken: 3 of 10 in Anin with 6 more reinforced. 2 of 9 in Tamo with 2 more reinforced. As of the time of writing I have about the same number of pocos as I did at the time of my surrender and 4b payout. By the end of this weekend I would expect for them to have about a dozen fewer pocos than they had when they decided to fuck around 7 days ago. | ||
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KwarK
United States41656 Posts
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Impervious
Canada4166 Posts
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