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On June 13 2023 21:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 20:44 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2023 03:20 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2023 01:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 10 2023 23:44 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:
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In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it.
The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch.
And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it. Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you. I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened. On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now. This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake. That is a very valid point. Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in. So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now? The way he went after Cop had a similar dynamic to you+marv pushing me towards mebaby last game. Felt like coercion then, as it's not something I wanted to do but had no way of countering. Ok so are we both town then? Because Marv and I were both town last game vivax! Yeah, Vivax’s post is nonsense because I very openly spent as much time as I could trying to clear DMB and never came close to voting for her. Which post ? Mafia couldn‘t try to clear dmb ? I needed a reply to this, marv. If I call you arrogant it‘s because I assume I don‘t seem important enough to you for you to consider my posts. And while some things don‘t make sense to you or DP, they do to the beings who possess universal knowledge. I don’t understand what you’re asking though, hence the lack of reply. Why would mafia try to clear a mislynch? DMB had tons of pressure d1 last game. What are you getting at?
You called one of my posts nonsense and I asked which one you meant, then proceeded to clear yourself for something you did around DMB which was wifom at best.
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On June 13 2023 23:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 21:18 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2023 20:44 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2023 03:20 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2023 01:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 10 2023 23:44 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
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Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you. I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened. On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now. This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake. That is a very valid point. Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in. So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now? The way he went after Cop had a similar dynamic to you+marv pushing me towards mebaby last game. Felt like coercion then, as it's not something I wanted to do but had no way of countering. Ok so are we both town then? Because Marv and I were both town last game vivax! Yeah, Vivax’s post is nonsense because I very openly spent as much time as I could trying to clear DMB and never came close to voting for her. Which post ? Mafia couldn‘t try to clear dmb ? I needed a reply to this, marv. If I call you arrogant it‘s because I assume I don‘t seem important enough to you for you to consider my posts. And while some things don‘t make sense to you or DP, they do to the beings who possess universal knowledge. I don’t understand what you’re asking though, hence the lack of reply. Why would mafia try to clear a mislynch? DMB had tons of pressure d1 last game. What are you getting at? You called one of my posts nonsense and I asked which one you meant, then proceeded to clear yourself for something you did around DMB which was wifom at best.
I was talking about last game. And I was town so it was nonsense.
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On June 13 2023 20:44 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 03:20 Vivax wrote:On June 13 2023 01:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 10 2023 23:44 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 22:59 DarthPunk wrote:
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How is it not in good faith? I am trying to establish the facts of the matter? and understand why someone would misrepresent them? in fact it's so in good faith I am considering the option that she is just not reading correctly.
Can I ask why you are still pushing this when you were so tragically incorrect about my LS take and that is the genesis of your scum read on me in the first place.
That is In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it. The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch. And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it. Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you. I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened. On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now. This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake. That is a very valid point. Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in. So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now? The way he went after Cop had a similar dynamic to you+marv pushing me towards mebaby last game. Felt like coercion then, as it's not something I wanted to do but had no way of countering. Ok so are we both town then? Because Marv and I were both town last game vivax! Yeah, Vivax’s post is nonsense because I very openly spent as much time as I could trying to clear DMB and never came close to voting for her. Which post ? Mafia couldn‘t try to clear dmb ? I needed a reply to this, marv. If I call you arrogant it‘s because I assume I don‘t seem important enough to you for you to consider my posts. And while some things don‘t make sense to you or DP, they do to the beings who possess universal knowledge.
This is less common than you might think, though.
Take care not to express or develop an arrogance of your own. This is a folly, to call out the arrogance of another and then proceed to display arrogance.
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DP, you have a point on Chez. His vote ended on the player that got lynched every cycle in the previous game, he didn’t waste a vote once (he may have cast a few funny ones in between)
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On June 13 2023 22:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:Chez called TTT obviously mafia and then votes the person he has been tunnelling all game. On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote:
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first? On June 13 2023 08:53 Chezinu wrote:OK. time to series. seriously. Let start a keto diet. Step 1. Eliminate carbs. #Vote Copcake+ Show Spoiler +Now, you just need to argue how your are the cop guarding the cake and preventing us from eating it. Then other may argue that there is no cake and that the cake is a lie. But others will say it just matters what is on the inside. Then I'll be like. I love strawberry cake.. raspberries... cherries... That‘s not Chezinu, that‘s Lucca Gallo. If you see not with the eye of Chupazi,, the Svengali earn you will not
Hot damn proceeds to show the world he understands my language
Uh, el berets, glithoniel! (?)
(You might understand the way better than even I do now lol- and I invented it)
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On June 13 2023 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
DP, you have a point on Chez. His vote ended on the player that got lynched every cycle in the previous game, he didn’t waste a vote once (he may have cast a few funny ones in between)
I agree with this. But I brown read the chez.
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On June 13 2023 23:22 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
DP, you have a point on Chez. His vote ended on the player that got lynched every cycle in the previous game, he didn’t waste a vote once (he may have cast a few funny ones in between) I agree with this. But I brown read the chez.
You pooped on him?
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On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:
Ok, this is tiresome.
Top town
LS
Rayn
DP (for mechanics)
Slam
MZ (after reading his filter correctly, his LS case is chef kiss but he is town, still his progression is fluid)
Vivax has some reads similar as me and he called out DP when he suggested that LS fake claimed, last game there were only two blues so I doubt there would be more? I think DP just find scummy things (I mean LS looked scummy in the case MZ made if you take out the tone read)
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Marv: I think rayn has been more vocal than DP so his read is ????????????
Mafia
Vayoletta: I am sorry but you asked if I was able to do a poker face but your reads seem mostly… “tone”? It is the first time we play together this so I would be more wary if I was you.
Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.
TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)
I also think TTT and Vayoletta team would make perfect sense, considering he didnt want to lynch her.
My two cents.
How is DP town for mechanics ? I don‘t even know what car brand he is.
Vayoletta is Lady Gaga smurfing and Chezinu is a wild carrot.
On a more serious note, I agree with most reads here. Not as much with the MZ one, but solid post apart from the DP read which I‘d like explained.
I felt bad when he said his partner was half polish lmao.
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On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:So: LS - town, uncounterclaimed tracker, longer filter in less than half the time of last game. Emotionally congruent?  DP/Vivax - townreads to a lesser extent. I don’t really know what Vivax is on and my brain hurts, so likely town. DP has been the town leader (sort of in rayn’s absence a little), I didn’t understand why he was getting votes d1. Good play around the lynch. Read on Copcake feels genuine. The rest is where it gets tricky. Slam and Chez both seem to be playing similarly to last game. What that means for their alignment this game is anyone’s guess. TTT’s play also has a lot of similarities to last game and at some point I thought he was pretty town for it. There’s something around how he’s treating Copcake this game vs me last game that I find suspicious though. Apparently last game he was happy to tunnel me to shit and tell me how poorly I was playing if town, seemingly purely based on his interpretation of other people’s interpretation of my play (?!). This game where he apparently has legit in game reasons to scumread CC, the tunnel is way more… gentle. Feels a marked difference. Something about the Hapa kill too (yes wifom) rayn said plenty of smart things as usual and he’s had some pretty strong townreads from a couple of people (sort of blurring into one after a big read). But I’m not ready for that read yet, he is less town leadery than I would expect, a little more passive. I’m not ready to do much about it today, because he’s missing Koshi to bounce off and he’s been missing me to bounce off too. So it might all be nothing. But it might be something Copcake I read as somewhat town for holding up to the pressure early game. I did agree with whoever said that there is a lack of alignment-finding-out-ness about her play, but then I think about some of my past games when I’ve been under a lot of pressure and I sometimes fall into the trap of just defending, defending, defending. Vayo, bleh. Could obviously easily be mafia, probs in the same way some/all of you think I might be mafia in this spot. MZ… I don’t disagree with the general analysis that MZ’s play feels similar to last game. But, ya know, townplay thay gets you lynched d1 (sorry about that) isn’t terribly hard to mimic either. I agree very much with what rayn said about MZ at the lynch. As an aside, I read a bunch of his past games last game, and he does just seem to be more aggressive now than he used to be. Tldr; tomorrow I need to filter the bottom 3, and I need to interact more with the two above that.
1.- Vivax read is ?????? Considering everybody else is tricky, this feels like let’s just throw something here
2.- Rayn has been very vocal, dp is town leader in rayns absence so he is town but rayn is not town leader so he is a tricky read?
Try to explain me this marv
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On June 13 2023 16:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 16:05 marvellosity wrote:
I’m running out of time this morning but rayn your case isn’t as clear cut as you think it is. I agree with various bits of it - to summarise extremely briefly, the stuff about obsQT etc is obviously bullshit, and agree with #4 in general too. How am i wrong on #1, noone wants to touch that shit with a pole and it's the most damning evidence. Show nested quote +But the bit about ignoring evidence - TTT did exactly that to me last game, said I was scum for something to do with LS, I posted 3 of my posts in thread to easily disprove that, but he still kept repeating the same nonsense. It was really bad. I am gonna look that up when i wake up, gotta sleep soon. Show nested quote +Also there is a language thing with the “twice as weird” bit, will try to explain later if you’re interested. Please elaborate, i can't understand even when i look up "twice as weird", i mean like i get what it means i think, but i don't understand how he uses it there as town given his earlier and later posts.
The twice as weird thing is just a figure of speech, of course it is natural to think it needs to be weird in the first place, but it’s just shorthand for “it’s weird”. Which in that view it would be weird, that much has not been inconsistent
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On June 13 2023 13:19 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 20:20 Vivax wrote:
I dreamed tonight that I saw a manificent fox approach from the balcony while laying on a lawn of grass with dmb. It climbed down a tree, jumped past us and got into the flat.
Inside the house, no red fox anywhere other young foxes of different colors who were hiding under pieces of furniture. The first to run past bit DMB in the big toe, so I started grabbing whatever I could and hunting them down, but their number kept proliferating at an alarming rate before I woke up. What the fox flying or a demon?
It was nice to behold and maybe a bit mystical, but ultimately entered the house with the intention of leaving its litter around to cause chaos and hurt my gf in the process.
I‘d like to avoid going into too much detail about how I dealt with its offspring.
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You should buy baby a cake
Or an ice cream
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On June 13 2023 23:45 CopCake wrote:
You should buy baby a cake
Or an ice cream
Bought her a pack of baci perugina. The coc- I mean cinnamon to go with it or some vanilla ice cream is off the menu for undescript time.
Anyway I‘m lazing off and need to decide if I want MZ snuggled to death with votes.
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On June 13 2023 23:26 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:So: LS - town, uncounterclaimed tracker, longer filter in less than half the time of last game. Emotionally congruent? DP/Vivax - townreads to a lesser extent. I don’t really know what Vivax is on and my brain hurts, so likely town. DP has been the town leader (sort of in rayn’s absence a little), I didn’t understand why he was getting votes d1. Good play around the lynch. Read on Copcake feels genuine. The rest is where it gets tricky. Slam and Chez both seem to be playing similarly to last game. What that means for their alignment this game is anyone’s guess. TTT’s play also has a lot of similarities to last game and at some point I thought he was pretty town for it. There’s something around how he’s treating Copcake this game vs me last game that I find suspicious though. Apparently last game he was happy to tunnel me to shit and tell me how poorly I was playing if town, seemingly purely based on his interpretation of other people’s interpretation of my play (?!). This game where he apparently has legit in game reasons to scumread CC, the tunnel is way more… gentle. Feels a marked difference. Something about the Hapa kill too (yes wifom) rayn said plenty of smart things as usual and he’s had some pretty strong townreads from a couple of people (sort of blurring into one after a big read). But I’m not ready for that read yet, he is less town leadery than I would expect, a little more passive. I’m not ready to do much about it today, because he’s missing Koshi to bounce off and he’s been missing me to bounce off too. So it might all be nothing. But it might be something Copcake I read as somewhat town for holding up to the pressure early game. I did agree with whoever said that there is a lack of alignment-finding-out-ness about her play, but then I think about some of my past games when I’ve been under a lot of pressure and I sometimes fall into the trap of just defending, defending, defending. Vayo, bleh. Could obviously easily be mafia, probs in the same way some/all of you think I might be mafia in this spot. MZ… I don’t disagree with the general analysis that MZ’s play feels similar to last game. But, ya know, townplay thay gets you lynched d1 (sorry about that) isn’t terribly hard to mimic either. I agree very much with what rayn said about MZ at the lynch. As an aside, I read a bunch of his past games last game, and he does just seem to be more aggressive now than he used to be. Tldr; tomorrow I need to filter the bottom 3, and I need to interact more with the two above that. 1.- Vivax read is ?????? Considering everybody else is tricky, this feels like let’s just throw something here 2.- Rayn has been very vocal, dp is town leader in rayns absence so he is town but rayn is not town leader so he is a tricky read? Try to explain me this marv
What’s to explain? I very rarely actually understand what Vivax is doing as town (much more straightforward as mafia!). But he’s active and involved and reading and not sounding boring.
I think I explained pretty well what I mean about rayn and how I typically read him. Especially the interact with him stuff and the “if I’m not hard town reading I’m wary”. As I have said previously we think at least somewhat similarly so this is how I approach someone like him, he’s too good to approach in any other way (imo)
Why do either of these things make me mafia?
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Vivax what is your problem with MZ’s posts this cycle?
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On June 13 2023 23:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:
Ok, this is tiresome.
Top town
LS
Rayn
DP (for mechanics)
Slam
MZ (after reading his filter correctly, his LS case is chef kiss but he is town, still his progression is fluid)
Vivax has some reads similar as me and he called out DP when he suggested that LS fake claimed, last game there were only two blues so I doubt there would be more? I think DP just find scummy things (I mean LS looked scummy in the case MZ made if you take out the tone read)
Mid tones
Marv: I think rayn has been more vocal than DP so his read is ????????????
Mafia
Vayoletta: I am sorry but you asked if I was able to do a poker face but your reads seem mostly… “tone”? It is the first time we play together this so I would be more wary if I was you.
Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.
TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)
I also think TTT and Vayoletta team would make perfect sense, considering he didnt want to lynch her.
My two cents. How is DP town for mechanics ? I don‘t even know what car brand he is. Vayoletta is Lady Gaga smurfing and Chezinu is a wild carrot. On a more serious note, I agree with most reads here. Not as much with the MZ one, but solid post apart from the DP read which I‘d like explained. I felt bad when he said his partner was half polish lmao.
When looking for the reason why you suspect mz found the question.
DP could have died trying to change the lynch over baby, the think is, as mafia you dont do that, he cant ensure Vayoletta would get lynched. Too risky.
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On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.
My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.
I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.
I hope I did not forget anyone.
Is this person really town?
##vote: Vayoletta
Remarkable lack of traction on someone who hasn’t come to play.
And yes yes I missed days but I’m here now trying to win.
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On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.
I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.
That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.
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On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now. I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null. That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.
He’s saying TTt is null, not you
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I think MZ’s posts are much better this cycle than anything from D1 that I read
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