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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 13 2023 15:23 GMT
#1601
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 13 2023 15:38 GMT
#1602
In case it wasn‘t obvious, I think marv is town now.
More of a grower than a shower.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
June 13 2023 15:46 GMT
#1603
Read my filter vivax
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
June 13 2023 15:50 GMT
#1604
On June 14 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

Is this person really town?

##vote: Vayoletta

Remarkable lack of traction on someone who hasn’t come to play.

And yes yes I missed days but I’m here now trying to win.

Thank fuck I felt like I was taking crazy pills for a bit.

The way people call Vayoletta scummy then refuse to vote her reminds me of how LS skated along last game.

Also I don't buy TTT's giving up post halfway through the day.

I could very easily see a Vayoletta/TTT/Chez team at this point with all 3 of them attempting to soft bus each other to varying degrees.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 13 2023 15:56 GMT
#1605
I got busy talking to someone in RL towards the end of Day 1. But we got the blue, so all good.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 13 2023 15:58 GMT
#1606
On June 14 2023 00:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Read my filter vivax


I did. It‘s very aesthetic. You got diamond encrusted palladium shitters at work with an engraved signature from Jimmy Wales?

You treat TTT in a way a mafia would probably do for a teammate. So while your reads are decidedly impressive, you read me town after all while I can‘t really back your reasoning behind it and think that even if we lynched mafia here that you have been pushing, I still wouldn‘t trust you enough to give you a townread.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
June 13 2023 16:05 GMT
#1607
On June 14 2023 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 00:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Read my filter vivax


I did. It‘s very aesthetic. You got diamond encrusted palladium shitters at work with an engraved signature from Jimmy Wales?

You treat TTT in a way a mafia would probably do for a teammate. So while your reads are decidedly impressive, you read me town after all while I can‘t really back your reasoning behind it and think that even if we lynched mafia here that you have been pushing, I still wouldn‘t trust you enough to give you a townread.

Lmao this is like a carbon copy of Marv's read of me from last game lol

Fine let's lynch all my suspects and if we haven't won by then you can waste a lynch on me since we should at least have 2/3 scum down.

"Meapak town read me while I was trying to troll so he's mafia" honestly fuck off with that trash lol. You made sense when you were talking about TTT.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2023 16:13 GMT
#1608
On June 14 2023 00:56 Chezinu wrote:
I got busy talking to someone in RL towards the end of Day 1. But we got the blue, so all good.

Am I going to be able to understand why your vote is where it was if I read your filter?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2023 16:13 GMT
#1609
On June 14 2023 00:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

Is this person really town?

##vote: Vayoletta

Remarkable lack of traction on someone who hasn’t come to play.

And yes yes I missed days but I’m here now trying to win.

Thank fuck I felt like I was taking crazy pills for a bit.

The way people call Vayoletta scummy then refuse to vote her reminds me of how LS skated along last game.

Also I don't buy TTT's giving up post halfway through the day.

I could very easily see a Vayoletta/TTT/Chez team at this point with all 3 of them attempting to soft bus each other to varying degrees.

It’s never that easy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2023 16:14 GMT
#1610
On June 14 2023 00:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta

Do you think MZ and Vayo can be mafia together?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 13 2023 16:28 GMT
#1611
On June 14 2023 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta

Do you think MZ and Vayo can be mafia together?


I don‘t discount it. MZ has still to place a vote and when the circle tightens and nobody is around to like your dog, mafia needs to include teammates in suspect circles but shys away from voting them.

If TTT and Vayo both were mafia, that‘d make MZ the deepscum for a shot at lategame. And they can still do enough at EoD to steer the titanic away from themselves.

I don‘t think I need to explain why EoD-centric activity peaks are more likely to be from mafia. But we‘ll see.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2023 16:32 GMT
#1612
On June 14 2023 01:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta

Do you think MZ and Vayo can be mafia together?


I don‘t discount it. MZ has still to place a vote and when the circle tightens and nobody is around to like your dog, mafia needs to include teammates in suspect circles but shys away from voting them.

If TTT and Vayo both were mafia, that‘d make MZ the deepscum for a shot at lategame. And they can still do enough at EoD to steer the titanic away from themselves.

I don‘t think I need to explain why EoD-centric activity peaks are more likely to be from mafia. But we‘ll see.

So day 1…?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
June 13 2023 16:35 GMT
#1613
On June 14 2023 01:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta

Do you think MZ and Vayo can be mafia together?


I don‘t discount it. MZ has still to place a vote and when the circle tightens and nobody is around to like your dog, mafia needs to include teammates in suspect circles but shys away from voting them.

If TTT and Vayo both were mafia, that‘d make MZ the deepscum for a shot at lategame. And they can still do enough at EoD to steer the titanic away from themselves.

I don‘t think I need to explain why EoD-centric activity peaks are more likely to be from mafia. But we‘ll see.

Vivax thanks for helping me with my read on TTT but we can take it from here.

##Vote: Vayoletta
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 13 2023 16:42 GMT
#1614
On June 14 2023 01:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 01:28 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2023 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta

Do you think MZ and Vayo can be mafia together?


I don‘t discount it. MZ has still to place a vote and when the circle tightens and nobody is around to like your dog, mafia needs to include teammates in suspect circles but shys away from voting them.

If TTT and Vayo both were mafia, that‘d make MZ the deepscum for a shot at lategame. And they can still do enough at EoD to steer the titanic away from themselves.

I don‘t think I need to explain why EoD-centric activity peaks are more likely to be from mafia. But we‘ll see.

Vivax thanks for helping me with my read on TTT but we can take it from here.

##Vote: Vayoletta


Can we hold hands at least
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 13 2023 16:55 GMT
#1615
Day Two Vote Count

Vayoletta (3): marvellosity, Vivax, Meapak_Ziphh
CopCake (2): DarthPunk, Chezinu, TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (1): rayneplikoneet
Chezinu (1): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Alakaslam, Vayoletta, CopCake, LightningStrike

With 3 votes, Vayoletta is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 14 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
June 13 2023 17:07 GMT
#1616
I'll tell ya what doesn't sit right with me. It's LightingStrike going afk the second pressure is off of him. If the last scum isn't Chez I might take another look at our "tracker"
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 13 2023 17:16 GMT
#1617
On June 13 2023 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 23:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 13 2023 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
DP, you have a point on Chez. His vote ended on the player that got lynched every cycle in the previous game, he didn’t waste a vote once (he may have cast a few funny ones in between)

I agree with this. But I brown read the chez.

You pooped on him?

Nay nay nay I could never. I just can't tell which alignment he is with
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 13 2023 18:18 GMT
#1618
rayn, I have just spent quite a bit of time in TTT’s filter, then I read your case at the end of it. I mentioned previously that TTT had disregarded information in the thread that contradicted his own tunnel. I went and found where it started to make it easier for you to check: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/609557-tl-endures-mafia?page=148#2942

Essentially the history being that TTT thought he caught me in some sort of trap about what I said about LS sheeping me. He thought that I was talking about LS voting me, rather than following my vote on to DP in weak fashion. I posted my posts in thread to show this and he ignored it. Obviously it’s poor play to ignore evidence, but then again the direct evidence here is that a town TTT will ignore evidence. What makes it a little bit more difficult to stomach is that TTT does talk in his filter about learning from the tunnel on me, but makes the same ‘mistake’ (if that’s what it is) on CC.

Just to touch on your point about the “twice as weird” thing again now I reread his filter and your case - the not-mafia explanation here is that he originally found CC’s read on you weird, rowed back on it after an explanation, then found it weird again with the information that CC tends not to read you as town.

For me the strangest thing about his filter is the near obsession with DP; obviously they know each other irl so part of it must be that. But there’s a lot of dangling DP there as possibly mafia while consistently reading him town for not much other than ‘pro town’ posting. To me that doesn’t mesh very well compared to his nuts tunnel on me last game, I would have thought he would be more willing to interrogate his DP read, or otherwise have better reasons to read him town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 13 2023 18:25 GMT
#1619
On June 11 2023 07:30 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:27 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 04:39 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Cakeroni, who’s pretending to scumhunt here?


On June 11 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.


Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not?



Like you think this might be going somewhere, but where is it going? It's alluding to having reads but not actually having a read.

Is this like an edgy meta from another site?

Anyway don't like this.


Everybody be pointing them fingers. Watch out you got three coming your way.


I always have them pointed my way. This game is not about survival Chez. do you know what that means?

You play very different. I end game win. You die win.


So we got Chez posting the two pictures. His job changed, presumably. I‘d like to interpret a boatload into it and maybe even find a reason to see it as crumb, but couldn‘t. So he‘ll be left with a corny joke instead. Nice badges tho.

Then there‘s this post that suggests that DP dying would win him the game, while Chez reaching endgame would make him win.

Colour me crazy but it‘s like those two are playing a game within a game and DP gets it, throws everything overboard and drops a vote on him.

It makes me so curious that I refuse to vote any of either for the rest of the game, maybe.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 18:45 GMT
#1620
On June 14 2023 03:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:30 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:27 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 04:39 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Cakeroni, who’s pretending to scumhunt here?


On June 11 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.


Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not?



Like you think this might be going somewhere, but where is it going? It's alluding to having reads but not actually having a read.

Is this like an edgy meta from another site?

Anyway don't like this.


Everybody be pointing them fingers. Watch out you got three coming your way.


I always have them pointed my way. This game is not about survival Chez. do you know what that means?

You play very different. I end game win. You die win.


So we got Chez posting the two pictures. His job changed, presumably. I‘d like to interpret a boatload into it and maybe even find a reason to see it as crumb, but couldn‘t. So he‘ll be left with a corny joke instead. Nice badges tho.

Then there‘s this post that suggests that DP dying would win him the game, while Chez reaching endgame would make him win.

Colour me crazy but it‘s like those two are playing a game within a game and DP gets it, throws everything overboard and drops a vote on him.

It makes me so curious that I refuse to vote any of either for the rest of the game, maybe.


I am so confused by this and I have a headache
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