EPTAs an aside my mates played that Blood on the Clocktower game irl recently. I’ve never played mafia or something similar irl and that needs to happen. I believe your answer anyways
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marvellosity
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As an aside my mates played that Blood on the Clocktower game irl recently. I’ve never played mafia or something similar irl and that needs to happen. I believe your answer anyways | ||
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TankTopTiger
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This is unfortunate for Marv, because LS absolutely refused to vote for Marv until his dying breath. LS voted himself before voting Marv. So one third of Meticulous Marv's case that he super duper definitely contributed to and didn't sheep... NEVER HAPPENED. Marv is making it up. I was concerned that maybe Marv was being ambiguous in his language, so I rephrased it for him and he accepted that interpretation. MARV JUST LIED AND PRETENDED TO HAVE MADE A CASE HE IN FACT CANT REMEMBER This is over. Marv is scum. There can be no doubt. I'm done here. | ||
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marvellosity
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TankTopTiger
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So your case on LightningStrike was: + he wasn't invested + his emotional reaction to Vivax flip came across as fake + he voted for you without investment Is this a fair summary? Anything else you want to add? On May 31 2023 18:14 marvellosity wrote: Don’t have anything in particular to add. Don’t need to. As an aside my mates played that Blood on the Clocktower game irl recently. I’ve never played mafia or something similar irl and that needs to happen. I believe your answer anyways | ||
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marvellosity
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It’s in my filter already, this isn’t the first time I talked about it | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 31 2023 03:23 marvellosity wrote: Right, this is going to be my last try. I am going to use my last big post as the basis for this one, below. It looks like I am 99% going to be lynched today, and the frustrating thing about that is ultimately if a townie gets lynched, it's on them for not being able to show the rest of town that they are town. So, sad times for me but I am at peace with it. What I'm still not at peace with is rayn falling off his townread on me. I never fell off my townread on him (he quoted a post in his 'vomit' goodbye post where it looks like I was calling him mafia because he started being suspicious of me - that wasn't the case at all, which I think should have been relatively clear by my terming it 'mega duped' by rayn - i.e. mega duped = i was hard townreading him. I just couldn't understand why when we'd been strong townreading each other that he'd stop. Because I got really convinced that DP was mafia? That seemed like a strange reason to stop hard townreading me). It also means I've probably misplayed today badly as well, objectively the right thing to do was probably to lynch LS and I am being screamed at in the observer chat why I didn't do that. Well, unfortunately I did not do that, and I am way too far in to want to do that now (and probably couldn't even if I wanted to). So alas, here we are... Most of all the above is still right as far as I am concerned. Some slight differences: LightningStrike is more likely to be mafia than what I posted there, the sheep on me was real bad (would still take it )Alakaslam I think is a bit less likely to be town based on his posts today. I also thought more about the reasoning that both rayn and I gave, and the plausible alternative is that a mafia-Slam changed votes from MZ to Vivax because why the fuck not? I still think this is the less likely version, because at the time Vivax was lynched, mafia did not know a vigilante would shoot and flip MZ. Meaning Slam didn't know it would look okay on him that he made the switch to Vivax. I know and understand that part of the reason rayn was suspicious of me, and probably the rest of you too, was that I didn't talk much about LS day 2. And voted VE late or something like that. The whole of D2 (Friday evening and all of Saturday) was just bad timing for me irl-wise, there's nothing more to it than that. From my perspective, I thought I had identified a mafia (DP), and we were merrily lynching VE (mafia), there did not seem to be much reason to talk about LS, he wasn't running away. I'm not going to say anything else in my defence. DarthPunk Somewhere today he posted a whole bunch of rayn posts to show that I am supposed to be mafia (not very good at making a proper case against me himself). I just really want town to remember that it wasn't clear like that for rayn at the time he died either: Obviously what I am including here is that rayn is betting that I am more likely mafia, well fine. But it's certainly not that he died giving DP a big town-read either. And, from my own perspective, I have one big advantage that rayn does not have, which is I know my own alignment. Imagine me making that post that rayn made (in fact many of our reads are fairly similar). rayn came down to the conclusion that it was between me, LS, and DP. Now, if I am making that post myself - let's say all the other reads are the same, Slam, DMB, etc etc. I would be left with 3 players the mafia could be between - rayn, LS, and DP. Except I strongly believed all game that rayn was town. Which brings the 3 options that rayn gives down to 2 options, DP and LS. It shouldn't be surprising that I am hard scumreading DP then! I was going to write a lot more about DP in this post, but it turns out I don't want to. I tried my best but I lost a lot of confidence. Either I am right on DP and no-one believes me and I am in an oasis on my own. Or I am very wrong and I'm still on my own. Because maybe I can come up with alternative explanations for some of what he's done. Maybe somehow he can have inherent guilt as town. I still find it hard to believe for this post: This was his original reaction when I started pointing things out: Like he is literally admitting my scumread on him is valid. But then I look at some other posts and they're not so bad again. So never mind | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 30 2023 04:44 marvellosity wrote: LS, I will take it either way | ||
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die_meatbaby
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Why do you all think TTT is Town? Nobody thinks he is mafia. He saw that DP is thinking of Marv is Mafia. He see that they are pushing each other since D1 and try to push that more and more. Dream case from TTT is we voting one of them out. Prefer Marv first. Marv flips Town. Of course DP is next because he tried to push Dp more on marv than he did before TTT comes in the game. We all would vote DP. Flips Town as well. TTT is mafia. I don't see you as Town anymore. You just try to push DP on Marv. You don't try to get Chez Slam or me on lynching Marv. You try to let Dp to the work and we would vote on 2 Town. This Szenario is so out of world smart, when I am thinking of you as the person you described yourself. You where writing you played the game a few times before but tried to look like newbi. Look at his... at your posts... the way you write... this is master playing Bs. You write like you are playing for decades. I don't believe you anymore as Town | ||
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die_meatbaby
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On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me. I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway. From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted. I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off. So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv. Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me. Like VE and LS where almost on there own as Mafia at the beginning. Of course you guys know each other since years. How would VE and LS deal with that situation? Why is TTT bushing Marv so hard when all of where more sure on LS as Mafia then Marv (like DP said 100% LS 80% Marv) Why should we lynch first Marv when we all where already sure about LS. Why is he they to push Dp so hard on Marv? | ||
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TankTopTiger
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If Marv flips town lynch me. You do realise that this is an auto-lose for me if I'm scum right? There is only one scum, if it's me and I trade with Marv, Town wins. If you're right and I'm some >9000IQ smurf player or whatever, you will win. If Marv is mafia, you will win. There are no tricks here. Lynch us both please. | ||
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die_meatbaby
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On May 31 2023 19:50 TankTopTiger wrote: If Marv flips town lynch me. I was reading old games and when I was learning one thing from this. This is good Mafia playing. Marv flips town you try to convince us to not voting on you because you are "def town"... we would lose... and blablabla... You where starting a "war" between two townies... you pushed the dp and marv thing... it was existing science D1 and you just saw a brilliant way of making town to vote between two Townies... | ||
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die_meatbaby
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If you kill Dp it would be to obvious for marv to kill him as Mafia. Marv wouldn't be that stupid and nobody of us would believe this shit anymore. If you kill me it's your direct way to death. If you kill Marv you wouldn't have the trust of the Town anymore because he flips Town. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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If Marv flips green just fucking lynch me. Quote this post. A town TTT under no circumstance lives if Marv is mislynched. Just vote me no questions asked. It will be really hard for me to talk you out of that shit if you post this quote at me. The thing is, this whole day Marv just been spam posting and blatantly rewriting history trying to bury his Ls (and luckily for us, generating new ones). He knows that you guys aren't paying attention. Like... right now... He literally just lied about his day 3 vote (see post #2942 & #2945) and he expects you to not pick up on it. Read it please. He lied bigly. This is a killshot and you're not even listening. | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 31 2023 20:12 TankTopTiger wrote: @Everybody If Marv flips green just fucking lynch me. Quote this post. A town TTT under no circumstance lives if Marv is mislynched. Just vote me no questions asked. It will be really hard for me to talk you out of that shit if you post this quote at me. The thing is, this whole day Marv just been spam posting and blatantly rewriting history trying to bury his Ls (and luckily for us, generating new ones). He knows that you guys aren't paying attention. Like... right now... He literally just lied about his day 3 vote (see post #2942 & #2945) and he expects you to not pick up on it. Read it please. He lied bigly. This is a killshot and you're not even listening. You’re the one that’s trying to rewrite history about my LS vote, I’ve been really straight forward with it. Mostly because it was amazingly uncomplicated. The only complicated thing was untunnelling from DP for long enough to actually make the vote. | ||
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