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On June 14 2023 02:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'll tell ya what doesn't sit right with me. It's LightingStrike going afk the second pressure is off of him. If the last scum isn't Chez I might take another look at our "tracker"
Only way LS is mafia is if he fake claimed and he got lucky enough that is a blur role another person doesnt have. I don’t know if there could be three blue roles, but there were only two last games.
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On June 14 2023 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Vayoletta (3): marvellosity, Vivax, Meapak_Ziphh
CopCake (2): DarthPunk, Chezinu, TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (1): rayneplikoneet
Chezinu (1): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): Vivax
Not Voting (4): Alakaslam, Vayoletta, CopCake, LightningStrike
With 3 votes, Vayoletta is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 14 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
I'm soon caught up, D2 as well, been reading for a while now.
The only players currently on my wagon are players I put in PoE, so I do kinda feel good about that. Why none of them is a proper wagon now is the biggest question in my mind.
What does pique my interest is that Hapahauli did push MZ and TTT as the top candidates for D1 elims. I don't think my wagon is pure, but I think TTT as wolf would avoid bundling up with his wolfbuddies voting me here.
I also do think that rayn's point about how TTT treats Copcake is a valid point here.
##Vote TankTopTiger
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I‘m most likely not going to vote cop barring some exceptional turnaround. Reads burnt out town to me and her activity has been very welcome, especially when not under pressure.
I almost liked TTTs last post just for the last sentence alone (I‘m a sucker for AtE) but it‘s so shiny on the surface and the read on DP simply came too late and doesn‘t really hit my expectations for it to be a genuine one. More like it was borne out of pressure.
Hoping for some input from Vayo so I can better decide between the two.
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I am here now as yesterday was my mom's birthday and was doing stuff with her all day and couldn't sleep and took a nap catching up now!
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On June 13 2023 08:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
In your mind it wasn't, in mine it was. They wouldn't give us any information, so to me they're a lurker.
My lynching history: VE (active), LS (active), Marv (active), Slam (by this point active), DMB (active).
I'm pretty sure last game I said something along the lines of "I haven't even read [long list of inactive player]".
You had CopCake as well in your lynching history did you forget her?
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The more I think about it, the more I feel like TTT tunneling Copcake is a deliberate way to control the threadstate by a wolf.
The wolves feel like they are in a comfortable position because I'm town here and the elim is getting directed to me. By pushing the thread into tunneling Copcake would create an atmosphere where wolves are able to sip martinis in peace as marvellosity and MZ get a pass.
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On June 13 2023 13:37 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 13:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I advocate a vig shot on chez btw. If we have one. If we do, kill LS.
If there was a Vig they would of shot me already Night 1 so doubt we have a Vig at all if we do got a 3rd blue for some reason given last game we had only 2 blues there (Vig and Doctor).
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On June 13 2023 10:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Alright let’s start with the NK’d townie who I wanted to lynch the fuck out of today -_- AND YES I KNOW NK WIFOM IS A THING PREEMPTING EVEYRONE REMINDING ME Spoiler for readability, here are Hapa's reads: + Show Spoiler +Hapa is green on slam: HereDoesn’t like me: HereReally doesn’t like me (he quotes my first post twice in two hours): HereThinks Cake/DP is TownVTown maybe: HereLS is wishy washy town: HereRed on me and Chez: HereWaffling on me: HereGreen on Slam, Rayn, Vivax, LS: HereDoesn’t want to lynch DP: HereDoesn’t want to lynch CopCake: HereTorn on me: HereThinks DMB is a mislynch: HereUnknown on Chez, Marv, and Vayoletta: HereRed on TTT: Here+1’s the idea of a Vayoletta lynch: HereNot happy with a DP lynch: HereSettles on a DMB lynch HereFinal vote for me: HereBoth Hapa and I then make it clear we’re going to go after each other tomorrow. I was honestly floored he got NK’d. I was absolutely going to go after him for the DMB vote and the flipflop about vayoletta. I know I don’t have much thread presence but now that he’s flipped town it seems like it would have been a better scum play to let the two of us go after each other. So why did they kill him? I can think of three reasons: a) They wanted to frame me because he was the loudest voice calling me scum in the thread. I find this unlikely because nobody has really come out of the woods to push for my lynch today which honestly surprised me a bit b) They were blue hunting. Hapa didn’t have a super long filter but was clearly engaged with the game. Maybe scum thought he was blue trying not to draw attention to themselves. This is certainly a possibility. c) He had the scum team nailed. His scum list is me, TTT, Chez, and maybe Vayoletta. Now I know I’m town, so let’s see how many other people are calling the others scum. Just going to focus on Chez for now. a. Slam indirectly calls out Chez and says he’s sheeping Hapa b. Rayn votes for chez but unvoted well before the lynch and has since buddied him a bit c. I townread chez for a meta guess about chatGPT d. Not going to check DMB since she was dead e. Marv has one post saying he has no idea about chez’s alignment f. Vivax repeatedly calls chez unreadable and enigmatic and has buddied him a lot g. DarthPunk has Chez in his Green/Brown category h. Not gonna look through Chez about himself lol i. TTT says chez is cryptic/trolling/not playing the game j. Vayoletta has Chez listed as a PoE suspect k. CopCake simply says “chezinu… is chezinu” l. Hapa called Chez out multiple times m. LS says that Chez wasting his vote on Rayn is pretty bad Ok I have to be honest that took longer than I was expecting and I’m very surprised how few people have actually called out Chez. I wasn’t sure what I was going to find reading everyone’s filter to get their reads on him but I certainly wasn’t expecting Hapa to be the only person to directly call him out as scummy. LS is ironically the only other person who comes close (aside from Rayn's early vote). I’m going to post this now and start looking at how everyone has been reading TTT. I know a lot more people have at one point or another called him scum so I’m not expecting to learn as much. Bottom line, if Hapa got killed for being right on one of his reads, I think there’s a decent chance it was Chez... I guess I need to reread Chez now too fml. If you feel I have somehow misrepresented your read of chez feel free to throw spears and correct me.
For what it's worth, I think Chez would fit with TTT quite well. If that's the world we're living in, the last wolf is currently someone sitting on my wagon.
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On June 13 2023 11:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Pretty much no meta. I think i have played with him two or three games where i have been town (and followed one). Every game i have super mega epic scum read on him from the start and every game he is town. Definitely no meta, lol  Generally he is more active, but I don't think activity is alignment indicative for him. He strikes me as a person who wouldn't be "scared" to play as scum, while i have never seen him play scum. His handle is a variant from his original nick he uses when we play Terraforming Mars, he changes it as a joke based on what we talk in discord channel ^^ I love terraforming mars. Have you played ark nova? It reminds me of it some how.
Asking the real questions here. I have tried Ark Nova, but I have never finished it. I play it with my older brother who has small children, and we can only play it during their sleeping time. Not once have we managed to finish the game with that limited time.
The game seems really cool though and it has an elegant design.
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I'm flying tonight and won't be around for the lynch. Please do not let Vayoletta wiggle out of this.
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All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD.
Here was his closer to EoD lynch list:
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.
Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD
Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted.
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On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3
Does this feel to over top for anyone else?
Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game.
##Vote: TannkTopTiger
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On June 14 2023 04:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight and won't be around for the lynch. Please do not let Vayoletta wiggle out of this.
Will check into Vay myself.
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On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger
I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre.
But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it.
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On June 14 2023 00:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.
My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.
I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.
I hope I did not forget anyone. Is this person really town? ##vote: VayolettaRemarkable lack of traction on someone who hasn’t come to play. And yes yes I missed days but I’m here now trying to win. Thank fuck I felt like I was taking crazy pills for a bit. The way people call Vayoletta scummy then refuse to vote her reminds me of how LS skated along last game. Also I don't buy TTT's giving up post halfway through the day. I could very easily see a Vayoletta/TTT/Chez team at this point with all 3 of them attempting to soft bus each other to varying degrees.
Tbh I also wondered at some point why I was not voted. The real answer for that is that wolves had no urgency and tunneling CC was a good way to direct town attention elsewhere.
The real question you should ask is why I was becoming a wagon only after TTT flew too close to the sun and burned his wings.
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Also Chez never answered my thing on TTT (I asked him why he was obvious mafia) and the fact he wasted his vote yesterday as well on Rayn could be a sign that he is mafia too.
In regards to Vay:
I don't know how to feel it seems like they agree with me but didn't exactly post a lot themselves and had some thoughts the same as mine too from the looks of it in her recent posting.
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On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it.
Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as town could be that he is giving up?
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On June 14 2023 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it. Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as mafia when he was town could be that he is giving up?
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Also Marv posting since he had actually been playing looks like Town Marv so at least helps me out a bit.
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On June 14 2023 03:50 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 02:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'll tell ya what doesn't sit right with me. It's LightingStrike going afk the second pressure is off of him. If the last scum isn't Chez I might take another look at our "tracker" Only way LS is mafia is if he fake claimed and he got lucky enough that is a blur role another person doesnt have. I don’t know if there could be three blue roles, but there were only two last games.
I would of ran a risk as mafia of just straight up being lynched today if someone cc'd either End of Day 1 shortly after I claimed or during this Day phase.
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On June 14 2023 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it. Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as town could be that he is giving up?
TTT could always pivot to me to live an extra day, but I think me flipping town after that would be a death sentence for TTT. I think TTT as wolf would benefit more by sacrificing himself now for the greater good and A) letting other players wagon me or B) getting himself flipped and having town waste the D3 by having me flipped.
TTT must have been aware of the fact that both me and him are being partnered, yet he has not reacted to those allegations in a meaningful way - the way he has spoken so little about me even in his giving up message and the fact that he has not even attempted to fight the allegations of being a wolf with me nor shown concern about them is something I find he would not do as town. He is planning to sink like a Titanic and take me with him to have town waste D3.
Killing me first would cause more suspicion on my wagon where at least one wolf is already hiding and would give the town more chance to re-evaluate the game on D3 instead of just chopping me with little discussion.
This is where my mind is on the matter right now.
As a sidenote I'm fully caught up. Still a bit hazy as I had to speedread a lot.
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