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LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty.
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Does anyone know Vayoletta? is that the replacement who really wanted to play last game?
Cause this:
On June 07 2023 14:20 Vayoletta wrote:
I’m like totally /in
Does not match with the rest of their filter.
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I’m mega - waffling on MZ after reading the last game. His posting this game is so structurally similar that I’m thinking I’m picking on a dislike of his style more than anything else.
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DP we’re not making pre-game cases plz.
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On June 10 2023 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I’m mega - waffling on MZ after reading the last game. His posting this game is so structurally similar that I’m thinking I’m picking on a dislike of his style more than anything else.
I think you are correct. I have a real issue with your MZ read right now TBH.
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On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 22:59 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 22:53 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
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I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.
I think LS and Rayn look bad.
this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.
What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️ Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no? I literally went to have lunch I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted. Oooff this is good actually. On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
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The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? The only thing not in good faith is that last post, it's neither mad nor are the questions particularly alignment indicative. And you didn't even ask what she had for lunch. If I told you I buried a hatchet under my sunchair, would you not want to know what it looked like? How is it not in good faith? I am trying to establish the facts of the matter? and understand why someone would misrepresent them? in fact it's so in good faith I am considering the option that she is just not reading correctly. Can I ask why you are still pushing this when you were so tragically incorrect about my LS take and that is the genesis of your scum read on me in the first place. That is In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it. The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch. And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it. Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you.
I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened.
On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now.
This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake.
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On June 10 2023 23:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty.
The reason I was asking that question was primarily to see if anyone else thought the same way I did and try to engage with others about what I thought but no one else really said anything outside of Rayn, and CopCake. Vivax didn't ask about it but granted he did say that entire thing between them rubbed the wrong way which doesn't = forced at least from my understanding.
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On June 10 2023 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
DP we’re not making pre-game cases plz.
It's not a case, but if it was, it would be about her lack of play this game.
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On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 22:59 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 22:53 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
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But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️
Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no? I literally went to have lunch I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted. Oooff this is good actually. On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
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I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.
I think LS and Rayn look bad.
this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.
What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? The only thing not in good faith is that last post, it's neither mad nor are the questions particularly alignment indicative. And you didn't even ask what she had for lunch. If I told you I buried a hatchet under my sunchair, would you not want to know what it looked like? How is it not in good faith? I am trying to establish the facts of the matter? and understand why someone would misrepresent them? in fact it's so in good faith I am considering the option that she is just not reading correctly. Can I ask why you are still pushing this when you were so tragically incorrect about my LS take and that is the genesis of your scum read on me in the first place. That is In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it. The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch. And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it. Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you. I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now. This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake.
That is a very valid point.
Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in.
So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now?
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On June 10 2023 23:19 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty. The reason I was asking that question was primarily to see if anyone else thought the same way I did and try to engage with others about what I thought but no one else really said anything outside of Rayn, and CopCake. Vivax didn't ask about it but granted he did say that entire thing between them rubbed the wrong way which doesn't = forced at least from my understanding.
LS why am I mafia?
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On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 22:59 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 22:53 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no? I literally went to have lunch I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted. Oooff this is good actually. On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
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But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️
Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? The only thing not in good faith is that last post, it's neither mad nor are the questions particularly alignment indicative. And you didn't even ask what she had for lunch. If I told you I buried a hatchet under my sunchair, would you not want to know what it looked like? How is it not in good faith? I am trying to establish the facts of the matter? and understand why someone would misrepresent them? in fact it's so in good faith I am considering the option that she is just not reading correctly. Can I ask why you are still pushing this when you were so tragically incorrect about my LS take and that is the genesis of your scum read on me in the first place. That is In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it. The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch. And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it. Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you. I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened. On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now. This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake. That is a very valid point. Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in. So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now?
For clarity: the valid part is the part where Copcake should not have a strong Rayn town read at the point she does. (although doesn't state that until she is pushed repaeatedly.) Not the rayn mafia tinfoil part.
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On June 10 2023 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I’m mega - waffling on MZ after reading the last game. His posting this game is so structurally similar that I’m thinking I’m picking on a dislike of his style more than anything else. I think you are correct. I have a real issue with your MZ read right now TBH.
I’m considerably more suspicious of marv not spotting this, as he played in both games.
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On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:19 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty. The reason I was asking that question was primarily to see if anyone else thought the same way I did and try to engage with others about what I thought but no one else really said anything outside of Rayn, and CopCake. Vivax didn't ask about it but granted he did say that entire thing between them rubbed the wrong way which doesn't = forced at least from my understanding. LS why am I mafia?
Pretty much you also happened to confirm this but I felt your entire thing with CopCake was forced and it looked really bad the fact that I was able to prove some of the stuff towards CopCake really paints you more mafia than town to be honest.
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If Rayn were red and CC green he talked me into going after her. Why would he throw away his free pocket?
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On June 10 2023 23:26 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I’m mega - waffling on MZ after reading the last game. His posting this game is so structurally similar that I’m thinking I’m picking on a dislike of his style more than anything else. I think you are correct. I have a real issue with your MZ read right now TBH. I’m considerably more suspicious of marv not spotting this, as he played in both games.
He literally mentioned last game as a reason why he was being cautious around scum reading MZ though.
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On June 10 2023 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:19 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty. The reason I was asking that question was primarily to see if anyone else thought the same way I did and try to engage with others about what I thought but no one else really said anything outside of Rayn, and CopCake. Vivax didn't ask about it but granted he did say that entire thing between them rubbed the wrong way which doesn't = forced at least from my understanding. LS why am I mafia? Pretty much you also happened to confirm this but I felt your entire thing with CopCake was forced and it looked really bad the fact that I was able to prove some of the stuff towards CopCake really paints you more mafia than town to be honest.
Did you read my posts clarifying? Has this changed anything for you?
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On June 10 2023 23:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:26 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I’m mega - waffling on MZ after reading the last game. His posting this game is so structurally similar that I’m thinking I’m picking on a dislike of his style more than anything else. I think you are correct. I have a real issue with your MZ read right now TBH. I’m considerably more suspicious of marv not spotting this, as he played in both games. He literally mentioned last game as a reason why he was being cautious around scum reading MZ though.
On June 10 2023 17:42 marvellosity wrote:
I’m most suspicious of MZ and Hapa, which given one of Hapa’s only posts was to highlight suspicion on MZ, feels a bit weird. rayn, I don’t characterise MZ as having similar reads to you as a good reason to like him. I’m very wary of feeling too strong about it given last time though.
Hapa tonally looked okay but I expected a bit more drive from him.
Copcake I thought fought her corner pretty consistently even though I wasn’t entirely sure what was going on. It’s not the same but reminded me how DMB was just always there d1 even when under heavy suspicion, last game.
Bunch of other mild (and even a strong or two) townreads but not worth talking about these now, especially as I’m unlikely to be able to respond as I’d like
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Anyway I'm off to bed, ill be around in the morning (AEST) before the deadline. And maybe on my phone for a bit after this post.
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Oh hm I’m not reading carefully enough. Gonna re-read and recalibrate.
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On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 22:59 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 22:53 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no? I literally went to have lunch I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted. Oooff this is good actually. On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
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But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️
Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? The only thing not in good faith is that last post, it's neither mad nor are the questions particularly alignment indicative. And you didn't even ask what she had for lunch. If I told you I buried a hatchet under my sunchair, would you not want to know what it looked like? How is it not in good faith? I am trying to establish the facts of the matter? and understand why someone would misrepresent them? in fact it's so in good faith I am considering the option that she is just not reading correctly. Can I ask why you are still pushing this when you were so tragically incorrect about my LS take and that is the genesis of your scum read on me in the first place. That is In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it. The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch. And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it. Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you. I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened. On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now. This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake. That is a very valid point. Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in. So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now?
The way he went after Cop had a similar dynamic to you+marv pushing me towards mebaby last game.
Felt like coercion then, as it's not something I wanted to do but had no way of countering.
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