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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
raynpelikoneet Vivax LightningStrike Not lynching anyone above this line for the purposes of D1. PRetty strong town reads on all of them. I've read LS's filter several times, and it is very "stream of consciousness", unfiltered, messy... signs of a townie trying to get his bearings on the game. Unfortunately that leaves a large pool of candidates below that I'm super "meh" on and I'll go one by one to get my thoughts out on the game. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I was pretty tempted to put him on the list above. My notepad has "pants squarely on head, annoying, probs town". My concern is that he is currently in the vote lead mostly out of his stubbornness with the whole CopCake thing rather than anything actually mafia oriented he has done. And while this is really old meta, I have known DP to death tunnel people as either alignment. Frankly, I have known DP to be more coherent as mafia. That, and given the relative "inactivity" of the past 24 hours, I absolutely hate this type of voting dynamic: On June 11 2023 03:51 Koshi wrote: Day One Vote Count DarthPunk (4): CopCake, Vivax (1): Chezinu CopCake (2): DarthPunk, TankTopTiger Meapak_Ziphh (1): Hapahauli LightningStrike (1): raynpelikoneet Chezinu (0): Not Voting (4): Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Vayoletta, With 4 votes, DarthPunk is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Sunday, Jun 11 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in Votes spread, 4 people not voting, and one person clearly in the lead? Either mafia is completely inactive and has zero thread control or we are lynching a townie and they don't care. I really, really don't think this type of vote dynamic typically leads to a successful lynch. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote: Re: CopCake Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game. Hijole lo siento hapa | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Meapak_Ziphh - I'm pretty torn, because I can't tell whether or not I just hate stylistically how he plays or if he's legit mafia. A lot of his posts set off alarm bells for me. I've mentioned his opener already, but I wanted to break down his posting on LS a bit more. Firstly, his "wall of text" on LS seems more like he is trying to bait LS into an argument rather than to build a case. Just a couple of snippets of the language: I'm going to do my best not to sound super sarcastic when I right this but come on, it's chez "I hope he answers so we figure out what it means?" Like what does it mean to you dude? Why highlight this? It's chez who the fuck knows what it means? This post serves no purpose What in the actual fuck does this mean? Why do you think it was forced? Do you think both Darth and Copcake are scum? What posts do you felt were forced? What does this serve to do other than fish for suspicions? There's more wine in front of this post than there is wine in my glass, and hint hint, there's a lot of wine in my glass. Tbh this post was the first one where I thought "he knows he didn't play scum well last game, what if he's deliberately trying a more active style this game to avoid attention." Why tf would anyone chime in when you haven't told them what's making you feel that way? The continued unfounded accusations and unsubstantiated suspicions are not working for me. The tonal aggressiveness given the context of the post (early game case on player) catches my eye in a bad way and reads like he is trying to grandstand his scum-read rather than develop an argument. I read his filter in TL Endures, and his play is almost structurally identical to this game (in that he makes an awful opener and starts tunneling a single player - marv). However, I am struck by how much more civil his posting against marv is... and you can read the first page of his filter to get a feel for it: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/609557-tl-endures-mafia?user=Meapak_Ziphh It is also problematic to me that MZ has not substantially engaged any other topic in the thread other than LS over 40 hours into the day. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Just log in later and sheep me dood. I'll figure out something. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
My town lynchbait radar is going off about Die_Meatbaby (henceforth, "DMB"). Overall, there's a sense of earnestness in his filter, and I hold posts like this from a new-ish player in the town column: On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote: How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master I think it is very, very good that he is not forcing suspicions early in the game and/or going with the flow of suspicions. I think it shows a degree of honesty in his play. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 11 2023 06:04 Hapahauli wrote: Just log in later and sheep me dood. I'll figure out something. Aye aye | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Marv Vayoletta All of them are in the "hell if I know" category. Rereading Chez's filter, I'm probably just putting too much stock into his random shitposts and votes than I should. He is pretty readable later in the game, and I wouldn't feel good taking a dice roll at him being mafia today. Marv hasn't done anything substantive. I haven't disagreed with anything he has said, but he is also capable of being reasonable as either alignment. Vayoletta really hasn't done anything at all. Another dice roll. | ||
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Vayoletta
50 Posts
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote: Re: CopCake Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game. Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 10 2023 06:00 CopCake wrote: Chezinu hasn't seen Harry Potter it seems Likely no unless he said yes We don't do the Potter stuff | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On June 11 2023 06:20 Alakaslam wrote: Likely no unless he said yes We don't do the Potter stuff I have seen: I saw like the first two movies. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 10 2023 06:19 LightningStrike wrote: Again when something is to forced in conversation like CopCake and Darth it usually an indicator it hard to explain but I am pretty good at knowing it is I wish I was better at explaining how I think >.< #Autismsucks It does It is overcomable Play mafia and get certifications for driving stuff; boating, class A, pilot, the people in all of those will grind autistic tendencies out like a mortar and pestle grinds the sesame for Shabu shabu sauce | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 10 2023 06:20 LightningStrike wrote: To be clear about the the autism sucks stuff ya I am autistic myself Peace my brother We are of one blood ye and I Use wisdom to overcome! | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On June 11 2023 06:25 Alakaslam wrote: Peace my brother We are of one blood ye and I Use wisdom to overcome! The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On June 11 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote: Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not? Is this a kushm4sta alt? | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On June 10 2023 22:48 TankTopTiger wrote: ##Vote: CC I was holding off on voting because I felt too clouted up and didn't want people to wagon before developing reads. I'm voting CC based on her town reading Rayn from moment one. I know DP IRL and we play together. We've clashed over these sorts of games before, and I fear those clashes more than I care about playing 100% optimal. But this never means assuming he's town. Instead, it means I give him the benefit of the doubt, and try to not be paranoid about "what if he's 400IQmafiabossing me rn?". While I expect different people have different approaches to how to play around relationship dynamics, I don't see a world in which the answer for CC is "just assume Rayn town". Also, out of everyone, I want DP and Rayn alive D2. They were both crucial driving forces D1, and I have a green read on both. People upset about DP "forcing" and "playing different" should know that his claim of being time-stressed checks out (I'm verifying it now). His aggressive play was consistent between his pushing on Rayn and then CC, and makes sense given he's trying to contribute during the windows he has available. I think this vote on CopCake in particular is egregious, because he is accusing CopCake of giving Rayn the "Benefit of the Doubt" while essentially doing the same thing with DarthPunk. Looking at what he has said about his DarthPunk read, it is essentially that he is "playing different" and that he has a plausible IRL claim, but he hasn't elaborated on that at all. | ||
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