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TL mafia, what is dead may never die
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Love it when the gang gets back together.
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Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much  come back friend.
I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread.
Vivax has been unimpressive so far
DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread.
Marv has been almost useless.
I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention.
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Also all the people at the beginning of the game talking about how we've grown up a lot over the last 7-10 years made me smile a bit because I feel the same way.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 23 2023 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
I am refreshing my iPad more than I care to mention. And working hard obvs.
So how did the meta evolve since I last played? On May 23 2023 19:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. Well rayn definitely isn’t hiding, so what do you mean?[/QUOTE Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:30 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
Don't know they always writing in the same minute. Feel suspicious to me What’s your theory on why mafia might do that? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here. If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:50 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 19:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 19:40 Koshi wrote:
Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced. I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though. Why do you think this?? Because i think Vivax is town. I know I ignored your question to me, but why? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:38 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
It has to be the plan to get meatbaby to explain their thoughts wherever possible. If town, will eliminate a lynch that mafia will have pencilled in. If not, great. Is this a serious point? If so can you expand upon your thinking here? Of course it’s serious, and it’s self explanatory. Which bit aren’t you getting? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway  - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:[quote] I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible. If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
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How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible. If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her? I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure? If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Would you want me to be lynched right now? “Which thankfully I’m not” If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess. Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:22 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 22:20 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 22:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure? If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right. I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote. Goodio? It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread. And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second. But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times. I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out. So you think me and Vivax were writing our thoughts on the thread at the same time because we were wrting also onb discord on how to hide? And you after that said you are sure Vivax is mafia, like completely and utterly sure. Why does that not apply to me as per your earlier investigations? And how are you so sure? You two stopped writing here for the same time, looked like you two where both something doing for the same 10 min and coming back here at the same time. I just preferred to vote Vivax out first because he brought me in this game. Have you entertained the possibility of coincidence?
Marv the socratic method only works if you actually come up with a conclusion:
It doesn't feel like you're trying to draw out reasoning, it feels like you're just filling space by asking questions and then not really offering interpretations on the answers you get. You've had several people respond to your questions and rather than make meaning of the information that they've given you just continue asking questions. I'm all for asking questions but at some point your posts just start to sound like this:
On May 23 2023 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
If I had to answer the question, it’s a lot of text to not say very much or actively silly stuff about killing lurkers. Text for the sake of writing text.
It's really funny to me that you wrote this post because I absolutely hate when people do what you're talking about, I call it Contributing Without Contributing and I consider it a fairly decent scumtell for most players, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are. Given the fact that you really haven't come to any real conclusions based on your questions, it's starting to feel as though they're simply a method to create the appearance of activity without having to actually provide concrete reads or say something of substance.
I really wouldn't have a problem with constant questions if you did something with it but you still haven't generated any real reads from it which is a warning sign to me.
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Would you want me to be lynched right now? “Which thankfully I’m not” If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess. Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident. I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information. But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now. All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.
On May 23 2023 22:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv do you think DP is mafia or town atm? Don’t know
This line of posts bothers me because it feels like you're setting up for a soft push on DarthPunk but you're not willing to actually stand behind it. You constantly undercut your own read, to me that's scummy. Either stand behind your read or don't reveal it until you have more certainty, otherwise it feels like mafia leaving behind little post-it notes to muddle up the thread, you'll be easily positioned to vote DP but you'll never have to accept responsibility if he flips green.
On May 24 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless.I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Given my activity trying to draw MB out on their reasoning, these 2 don’t mesh so well.
It's funny that you bring up your questioning as a defense because that's exactly what I was expecting to hear when I was first reading the thread. I'll reference back to my earlier point that your activity hasn't been really pro-town and more an attempt to look involved without having to put your neck on the line.
And as to those points not meshing... the discussion was useful because it revealed you as being useless.
+ Show Spoiler +useless in the context of the game <3
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That post took about a million years to format properly so to sum up my problems with Marv in a post that's more succinct: I think Marv's play has been useless/scummy because his questions have not actually resulted in any real reads and he actively tries to distance himself from his only read of the game so far. He is filling space in the thread and looking active but his questions haven't produced a suspect he's willing to stand behind.
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On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.
Ok let's walk through this so that I understand. You say that there's one mafia between Marv/DarthPunk and it's probably DP, does that mean you'd want to lynch Marv if DP flipped town?
I'm always a little hesitant to accept reasoning like that. Right now I've got a slight town read on DP but if we lynched Marv and he flipped green, I don't think that would necessarily be alignment indicative to DP.
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On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you?
I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it.
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Lightning Strike you also asked about vivax, don't have much on that right now other than vibes but if he posts a little more I'll be able to come to a more concrete conclusion.
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On May 24 2023 04:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
That post took about a million years to format properly so to sum up my problems with Marv in a post that's more succinct: I think Marv's play has been useless/scummy because his questions have not actually resulted in any real reads and he actively tries to distance himself from his only read of the game so far. He is filling space in the thread and looking active but his questions haven't produced a suspect he's willing to stand behind. For my own curiosity, can you make the other alignment argument based on my posting so far? How might that read?
Bro..... all that and you just asked me a question lol.
But for the thought experiment, I think I could make an argument for a town alignment if you were actually taking the answers people were giving you and forming reads based on them. You just really haven't done that, posts drawing conclusions from the answers you've received are missing and that's what's wrong with your filter when I read it.
If you had posts like that and your conclusions made logical sense I'd probably townread you or at least not be actively scumreading you. But in their absence it just looks like you're making very 'easy' posts for lack of a better word that aren't going to ruffle any feathers and make it look like you're participating in scum hunting.
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On May 24 2023 04:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you? I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it. You realise getting someone to give answers - by asking questions - is what allows others to make reads?
It's not your job to make reads for others, its your job as a townie to come up with your own reads based on the thread as you read it. If you're asking questions it should be with the intention of refining or correcting your own reads.
You still haven't been able to provide even one "I think I'm leaning scum on person X" post that you're willing to stand behind. DarthPunk doesn't count because you're not willing to stand behind it.
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On May 24 2023 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. Ok let's walk through this so that I understand. You say that there's one mafia between Marv/DarthPunk and it's probably DP, does that mean you'd want to lynch Marv if DP flipped town? I'm always a little hesitant to accept reasoning like that. Right now I've got a slight town read on DP but if we lynched Marv and he flipped green, I don't think that would necessarily be alignment indicative to DP. I'm not usually one to draw it out like that either, that's just how I'm seeing things now...and like I said it's kinda moot right now because I don't want to lynch either of them. They're both maf players that will help me catch their teammates at least early on, so I'm into letting them. That reasoning is....commonplace, so marv taking issue with it is...interesting. He REALLY don't like the idea of lynching into lurkers it seems, which makes me WAAAAAAY more into doing so. Like I said, he helping me out :D
Hmmm ok I can't townread you anymore. This is... not great if you think someone is mafia, even if they're the most mafia ever and it's gonna be a quiet day because they're so obvious there won't be much discussion, you still lynch the people you are sure are scum. Like if you believe marv is mafia you should be wanting to lynch him ASAP even if for some reason you feel his anti lurker lynching stance is helping you.
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On May 24 2023 04:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:34 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you? I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it. You realise getting someone to give answers - by asking questions - is what allows others to make reads? It's not your job to make reads for others, its your job as a townie to come up with your own reads based on the thread as you read it. If you're asking questions it should be with the intention of refining or correcting your own reads. You still haven't been able to provide even one "I think I'm leaning scum on person X" post that you're willing to stand behind. DarthPunk doesn't count because you're not willing to stand behind it. It’s not a townie’s job to help other townies make reads. Better to leave them in the dark. Got it MZ👌 I’m aware this is incredibly WIFOM, but do you not think a mafia marv is capable of making reads (and further, forseeing it might be necessary)?
The way you help townies make reads is by providing your own and then discussing them, not by just asking questions for the sake of questions.
I'm honestly not even going to address that second part until you can give me one tiny read on someone who's not DP. At least you're aware of how bad that WIFOM is.
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On May 24 2023 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2023 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. Ok let's walk through this so that I understand. You say that there's one mafia between Marv/DarthPunk and it's probably DP, does that mean you'd want to lynch Marv if DP flipped town? I'm always a little hesitant to accept reasoning like that. Right now I've got a slight town read on DP but if we lynched Marv and he flipped green, I don't think that would necessarily be alignment indicative to DP. I'm not usually one to draw it out like that either, that's just how I'm seeing things now...and like I said it's kinda moot right now because I don't want to lynch either of them. They're both maf players that will help me catch their teammates at least early on, so I'm into letting them. That reasoning is....commonplace, so marv taking issue with it is...interesting. He REALLY don't like the idea of lynching into lurkers it seems, which makes me WAAAAAAY more into doing so. Like I said, he helping me out :D Hmmm ok I can't townread you anymore. This is... not great if you think someone is mafia, even if they're the most mafia ever and it's gonna be a quiet day because they're so obvious there won't be much discussion, you still lynch the people you are sure are scum. Like if you believe marv is mafia you should be wanting to lynch him ASAP even if for some reason you feel his anti lurker lynching stance is helping you. I know you've played with BC before MZ, this is HOW he plays and I've seen the merit of it over many games. I accept that marv is mostly not lynchable D1, and I'm not interested in getting into a shitfest trying to make that happen - it will probably just get ME lynched. DP is in a similar place, but for his activity vs game-solvability. And because I don't know WHICH or IF either one is maf, I'm just not interested in pursuing that today. You can dislike my playstyle, but it's not scummy. It's just my playstyle.
I hate hate hate the fact that your last line is right especially since you said the bit in red. This definitely does sound like town!VE that I remember from years ago but that doesn't stop me from not feeling good about it. I have plenty of people I'd rather try and lynch D1 instead of you anyway.
I want you to write out why you were initially finding DarthPunk scum.
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On May 24 2023 06:24 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 05:46 Koshi wrote:
Ok I can't vote marv anymore.
I am saving the last pages for work. Because it is late and I dont want to think.
##unvote
##Vote: mebaby
Tbh I am not super duper happy with Vivax I think but this scumread from mebaby is totally insane. Like Vivax didnt even post a lot. Twice. And rayn was more active and was in the thread at the same time.
I can only imagine this is some weird crossover shit from irl mafia where the mafia has to fake reads in a fast pace game. Sorry was working last few hours... You really think they going to make a new girl directly mafia? I heard most of you weren't playing in years in this game is like legendary rematch after years... you think they taking the chance to ruin this game and make a new member (who never played) a mafia?
The bolded part is bad since I can easily see a brand new scum player using that as a reason to defend themselves before learning that the roles are randomized.
This is the kind of stuff that's made me go back and forth with my read of meatbaby so far.
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On May 24 2023 07:25 Koshi wrote:
MZ what do you make of VE finding a friend in you because of similar reads and him biting back at marv in a playful manner?
I think VE switching from wanting DarthPunk to Marv as his most likely scum does come across as a little convenient, especially since I offered him a tiny olive branch in my first post to see if he'd play ball. However his posts regarding his own playstyle does sound familiar to me and reminded of all the times that I accidentally misslynched him years ago.
Like I said in one of my previous posts, I'm not fully clearing him as town for a second time, but I think there are higher priorities for me than VE.
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On May 24 2023 07:29 Koshi wrote:
Also imho marv is looking more and more as a sponge absoring information and potentially making it rain knowledge while dp is just sitting in marv's ass doing nothing.
So this 1 mafia in marv/dp theory is not so horrible.
I will have to reread DarthPunk, I remember seeing some stuff I liked but I'll give it a second pass. I know marv is trying to give off the impression of soaking up knowledge but I would really like to see some actual rain before I give him credit for his strategy because until then I'm not buying it.
If you're thinking in the same direction as VE with the 1 town 1 scum, what do you think of him not wanting to lynch into that group D1?
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On May 24 2023 07:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 06:24 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 05:46 Koshi wrote:
Ok I can't vote marv anymore.
I am saving the last pages for work. Because it is late and I dont want to think.
##unvote
##Vote: mebaby
Tbh I am not super duper happy with Vivax I think but this scumread from mebaby is totally insane. Like Vivax didnt even post a lot. Twice. And rayn was more active and was in the thread at the same time.
I can only imagine this is some weird crossover shit from irl mafia where the mafia has to fake reads in a fast pace game. Sorry was working last few hours... You really think they going to make a new girl directly mafia? I heard most of you weren't playing in years in this game is like legendary rematch after years... you think they taking the chance to ruin this game and make a new member (who never played) a mafia? The bolded part is bad since I can easily see a brand new scum player using that as a reason to defend themselves before learning that the roles are randomized. This is the kind of stuff that's made me go back and forth with my read of meatbaby so far. Why was mebaby bolded green if she is a back and forth?
I didn't bold her green? I think you mixed me up with someone else.
I really like this DarthPunk post
In answer to your question in this post DP, I think I would entertain a LightningStrike lynch and probably Vivax as well.
Slam looks decently town
On May 24 2023 13:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 13:27 DarthPunk wrote:On May 24 2023 13:13 Alakaslam wrote:On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me Wait where did Chezinu post? Exactly. Ok wait then what did I miss? Why is there 2 onegu votes and like some Koshi vote?
Thank you for pointing this out, wtf VE? Did I miss your explanation for voting onegu? I hate when people plop down votes and don't explain them.
Here is another excellent DP post, it synthesizes my feelings on LightningStrike very well.
On May 24 2023 16:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 15:41 marvellosity wrote:
Im not sure about the LS townread either DP. I lightly read him as town when he first posted but I agree there hasn’t been much else. Partly I just want him to be town which is not the same thing.
I will try to organise my thoughts this morning. Tbh MB’s townreads on non existent players isn’t great, is it? Nor the vote switch to Onegu after being so sure about vivax/rayn
It's weird to me that both VE and DMB ended up on the same lurker, I would love some explanation for this.
On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.
I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.
Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.
Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p
Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).
Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.
That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.
On May 24 2023 17:14 marvellosity wrote:
First post of the game on a computer for me, hurrah! And first post of today with clothes on, you'll all be thrilled to hear. I'm going to summarise where I'm at.
Koshi and rayn seem pretty-to-very town to me, at least if they are not I am not going to be catching them very soon. rayn thinks what I think a good bunch of the time. Koshi loves to vote for me d1 as town (not that that's the reason for the read, but ya know)
DP I am no longer particularly suspicious of, I don't think I have a reason to be.
VE I don't think I am suspicious of either. Some of his posts are very ?????? to me, but I don't think that makes him mafia. VE loves a big or crazy sort of play as mafia and he's not afraid to put himself out there, but I don't think it's like this?
Vivax I am unsure of. Tonally I think he looks fairly town, but before I looked at his filter just now I'm at least somewhat suspicious of him. It feels to me that a town-Vivax should be using all his irl leverage to really question and dig into MB's alignment, rather than giving occasional summaries of his thoughts. I just imagine myself in Vivax's position - I would want nothing more than to determine the alignment of my friend. I did re-read his filter though and it also didn't scream mafia particularly apart from that, random comment about MB being mafia spews me town, is that something he writes as mafia?
Slam could be anything (if there's a way to tell that I can't remember, enlighten me). LS I am also very null on.
MB I don't have much else to add than what Koshi said and my response to what Koshi said not long ago. Could easily be mafia, meatbaby - I really encourage you to post your thoughts and reasoning behind them as much as possible today
MZ I think is mafia. It was floating around in my brain yesterday, but the case against me at least looked clean and (some) of his posts maybe looked okay, so I wasn't sure how to pinpoint what I was thinking. But rayn's comments about MZ and how his posting style appeared to him in past games really resonated to me and helped me make sense of my thoughts. Actually his case against me is too clean/obvious, and I don't think he's actually trying to discern my alignment. I think he is playing the way an old-school scum player plays, relatively unruffly comments, targeting someone (me) that has at least some thread traction, a case that 'makes sense' but doesn't dig any further.
##vote: MZ
P.S. I am slightly sad that we have 2 non-posters, I hope at least 2 mafia sit in the people actually playing, or it's gonna be sucky.
These posts from my top scum read and from one my top suspects come 2 minutes apart lmao. You guys are gonna come after me for having a case that's "too well written?" like are you joking? I'm not going to respond to this. Come up with something real lmao.
On May 24 2023 17:17 marvellosity wrote:
and now Vivax agrees & with the same reasoning on MZ. So I guess I should like him for that.
oh my god what a crazy coincidence!!!
Marv your first reads post is essentially you saying "I'm null on anyone.... OMGUS Meapak." Zero changes to my read.
Page 25-30 was an absolute cesspool and I'm now ready to lynch DMB. I'm also loving this post from koshi
On May 24 2023 21:07 Koshi wrote:
So it is a fucking lie that the cruise game was marv mafia tearing it up
On May 24 2023 21:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 21:07 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv? end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit. did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia? I won that game as mafia and marv was owned On October 15 2016 06:01 beentheredonethat wrote:Endgame
scott31337, Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
The mafia is victorious! Congratulations to a flawless victory to...
Oatsmaster (Roleblocker)
justanothertownie (Goon)
Koshi (Framer)
A big thank you to my co-hosts, first of all Rels, and thanks to everyone who played and commented in obs QT!
Observer QTScum QTBoth QTs are worth a read! On October 15 2016 08:01 Skynx wrote:Koshi your scumplay is about to reach Superbia levels of out-thereness On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafiaFYI, next game up for signups will close Monday or Tuesday if you are up for a themed game.
Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression.
Yeah I saw he didn't win, but you still going hard on him when you go through the posts their. Def. not lazy
On May 24 2023 19:34 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 19:24 DarthPunk wrote:On May 24 2023 19:19 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 19:13 DarthPunk wrote:On May 24 2023 19:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 19:01 DarthPunk wrote:On May 24 2023 18:57 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote:
At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future. Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week. Amazingly I can actually see a world where you are town and this is a mislynch. But at this point the game can't progress with the current issues as they stand. The topic of you and your alignment are taking all the oxygen in the thread. So unless you can somehow resolve the issues as previously outlined I suggest, if you are town, you try your best to let us all know who you think mafia is and why. Happily, if you are town and we are mistaken you may still win the game, and there would be some lessons learned all around I imagine. Just knowing that Vivax is watching this shit right now is not riding anything drives me fucking crazy but i hope this information is not against the rules. Sorry we are living togther and i can´t change the fact of knowing he is sitting in another room on Pc and be silend (Peace of shit) and just watching. rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this. I shure we have somewhere 3th person as mafia but for this i don´t have any specific person in mind (right now) Noted. But when you vote me out you will see that i am town and why i was writing random things aswell. I know you and Koshi, akam... sorry forgot the name.. are town. you wheren´t shure if am trolling or not that´s the reason why i know you three are def. town. Mafia did´t give a shit about my randomness or writing discord bullshit, they found it funny becauce they know you will vote me out for writing like this. So right now you think rayn and vivax are mafia still? what about marvellosity? Not shure yet. I got out from the first pages here that some of you Koshi and forgot the second one (will check later again) that you where directly a little scared of him. Scared like he scamed you guys in an old game. I checkd his profil and games where he was in i was right and Koshi answerd that the fact i just got in my head was true so he won in an old game. he like switch for me. He´s silend and write less than you or koshi. writing less is for shure more safe as mafia and i would write less as well. But right now i don´t want to make an opinion on him, because he not that super active. If if he almost ignores my random bullshit and just don´t give a fuck seems suspicious. Because he didn´t got triggerd. I wanted to trigger you all, to see who is town. becauce nonsence trigger all kind of people and function very well and easy at the same time. You and Koshi but so much engerie to understand my nonseense writing, meanse you are town. Hope this helps you
It feels like DMB got caught bad here trying to stick by this idea that we're all scared of Marv and just made some stuff up to fit her narrative.
On May 24 2023 20:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:On May 24 2023 20:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m less happy with a MB vote after her recent posts. Looks like she made an effort, researched, and thought about the game a bit. I would dislike a policy lynch, anyone voting MB needs to do so only because they think she has the best chance of flipping mafia.
MZ still lovely lynch. Agreed. maybe ill just sheep you. You guys are so gullible or just mafia. Holy mozes. She reads rayn and vivax mafia for the dumbest reason - gets a pass cuz new - She meta reads a situation perfectly if all protagonist are town even though the persons in this situation are mafia in her head. -She gets some flak finally- She invents a reason why she meta read like she did "research and reading filters" - she gets a pass for trying- lolololololololol fml
Yeah idk why more people aren't focusing on this, I know the thread has been clogged up pretty badly but some of this stuff egregious.
I'll be honest I'm not really going to be reading DMB's posts, I'll be skimming at best.
On May 25 2023 00:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wake up in the morning
Get out of bed
Gotta get my vote on
I can sleep more when I'm dead
Voting on a no poster
He'll probably be replaced
I wonder if they'll modkill
Is this shit freebased?
I'm filtering vivax
Marv koshi dp
DP looking better
That's a good thing to see
Marvs first post at pc
Looks way more like Marv
It's fully NAI
But it means his lynch train can starve now I've got the blues
Those filter diving blues
It's my Saturday you fuckers who wants to read up on yous?
Not me I've got the blues
Filter diving blues
Will there even be shit in here for me to use?
I was really curious to see what would happen when VE came back to the thread and conversation had shifted from Marv/DP to someone else and it worries me to see he's now townreading both of them. This feels very opportunistic and a way for him to back out of these reads.
VE can you please show me the posts that Marv/DP made which changed your mind that one of them has to be red?
On May 25 2023 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Vivax seemed fine with meat Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:49 Vivax wrote:
VE seems like another VE compared to how he approached the game initially. Might rethink the TR down the road. I take issue in the fact that his first post had that ‚aha‘ component while the followup ended up all over the place with little regard as to who the vote ends up on.
As for MB, I don‘t read the derpy reasoning as AI. Knowing the character of the player, it could be mild trolling or a beginner‘s approach to pressuring me.
I‘m probably biased, but the mech talk appears disingenous enough to be town imo. I prefer to leave that slot to others to figure out. By others I mostly mean my townreads Koshi, Rayn, LS atm.
Got to filter MZ still. Until this post here....then the tone shifts dramatically. It's less about trying to figure out meat's alignement and seems way more like trying to justify the eventual vote. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 08:21 Vivax wrote:On May 24 2023 08:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 07:59 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 07:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 07:37 Koshi wrote:
@Mebaby: one more Q, how do you feel about Vivax not wanting to scumread you even though you are aiming for his testicals this entire game? First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own.. Ok. So him being meek is NAI ( not allignment indicative). Did you see me proof that Vivax and rayn didnt leave together and that rayn was active continiously and Vivax only made 2 posts? So rayn being there when Vivax made those 2 posts is just a coincidence? And how did you "feel" that they were hiding and posting together when you were sleeping at that time? yeah and I know you guys played this game sence years but and you have different techniques to play, and you already played with each other and know how they played. I just try my own style to get a win for als Townies But still i feel not good about Vivax in the game he is just to quiet to be town and he just write safe phrases. Like he realyy suspect for me You don't know how I usually play. And that's not about the discord timing thing either. There were a bunch of people posting at similar timings, not just me and rayn. That's what Koshi was pointing out among other things. Maybe you think that's a way of reading people, but nobody else does  . Where was any indication that me and rayn posted in tandem? Why should we ? On the other hand it could 'dumbtell' you as the lack of knowing that mafia chat isn't that super active could mean you're town. This bears out in following posts, I won't post them all because they all say the same thing. I'll summarize: "Hum haw, I think meat is meat and gawrsh I feel bad but out of my hands, talk to rayn/koshi! *shrugz0rz*" ##Vote Vivax
Ok but I also agree with this post, in particular his characterization of how vivax has approached DMB so far. Similar to what I was talking about during my Marv expose, VE pointing out that Vivax has attempted to call out DMB without actually passing alignment judgement and imo that's scummy as hell.
On May 25 2023 02:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Vivax seemed fine with meat On May 24 2023 06:49 Vivax wrote:
VE seems like another VE compared to how he approached the game initially. Might rethink the TR down the road. I take issue in the fact that his first post had that ‚aha‘ component while the followup ended up all over the place with little regard as to who the vote ends up on.
As for MB, I don‘t read the derpy reasoning as AI. Knowing the character of the player, it could be mild trolling or a beginner‘s approach to pressuring me.
I‘m probably biased, but the mech talk appears disingenous enough to be town imo. I prefer to leave that slot to others to figure out. By others I mostly mean my townreads Koshi, Rayn, LS atm.
Got to filter MZ still. Until this post here....then the tone shifts dramatically. It's less about trying to figure out meat's alignement and seems way more like trying to justify the eventual vote. On May 24 2023 08:21 Vivax wrote:On May 24 2023 08:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 07:59 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 07:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 07:37 Koshi wrote:
@Mebaby: one more Q, how do you feel about Vivax not wanting to scumread you even though you are aiming for his testicals this entire game? First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own.. Ok. So him being meek is NAI ( not allignment indicative). Did you see me proof that Vivax and rayn didnt leave together and that rayn was active continiously and Vivax only made 2 posts? So rayn being there when Vivax made those 2 posts is just a coincidence? And how did you "feel" that they were hiding and posting together when you were sleeping at that time? yeah and I know you guys played this game sence years but and you have different techniques to play, and you already played with each other and know how they played. I just try my own style to get a win for als Townies But still i feel not good about Vivax in the game he is just to quiet to be town and he just write safe phrases. Like he realyy suspect for me You don't know how I usually play. And that's not about the discord timing thing either. There were a bunch of people posting at similar timings, not just me and rayn. That's what Koshi was pointing out among other things. Maybe you think that's a way of reading people, but nobody else does . Where was any indication that me and rayn posted in tandem? Why should we ? On the other hand it could 'dumbtell' you as the lack of knowing that mafia chat isn't that super active could mean you're town. This bears out in following posts, I won't post them all because they all say the same thing. I'll summarize: "Hum haw, I think meat is meat and gawrsh I feel bad but out of my hands, talk to rayn/koshi! *shrugz0rz*" ##Vote Vivax Accurate. But doesn‘t make me scum. I believe it‘s understandable with some basic empathy. You don‘t exactly want to put your partner under pressure early while you think both could be town. That‘s what she did. Then again she thought we‘d be mostly shitposting judging by the recklessness.
I could understand maybe a tinfoil world where we‘re both mafia and she hated the role and bussed me right off the bat but me scum+her town seems like a strange conclusion for you to make.
Surely you realize this is all WIFOM.
I like this post from rayn, regardless of my thoughts on Marv, Vivax, or LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +(who I just realized while writing this never did anything since the DarthPunk posts calling him out)
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Town:
Koshi
DarthPunk
Rayn
Slam
Unsure:
VE
Lurkers
Scum
Marv
Vivax
LightningStrike
Scum + policy
DMB
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On May 25 2023 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
MZ your characterisation of what I said about you as OMGUS is weak sauce.
There is no curiosity in your posts about my alignment whatsoever.
With all that I wrote, that's what you take away.
Man your "case" is that my posting is "too clean", that's a pretty transparent way of saying OMGUS.
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