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yeah im completing my turnaround on rayn. he is active and trying to solve the game.
this also may be my new favorite mafia post + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2022 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: truth to be told i actually got quite annoyed at mattchew on day one. i dont think anyone was doubting you lol.
anyway i like lynching tubesock, would love to follow that up with a CC or Slam lynch.
rayn you dont have MZ as mafia, what does a mafia rels gain from hammering 1 town over another at the last second
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On September 03 2022 10:41 Mattchew wrote:yeah im completing my turnaround on rayn. he is active and trying to solve the game. this also may be my new favorite mafia post + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2022 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: truth to be told i actually got quite annoyed at mattchew on day one. i dont think anyone was doubting you lol. anyway i like lynching tubesock, would love to follow that up with a CC or Slam lynch. rayn you dont have MZ as mafia, what does a mafia rels gain from hammering 1 town over another at the last second What do you mean as mafia!rels hammering town over town?
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On September 03 2022 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 10:27 Vivax wrote: It's not therapy cause it won't change what I'm like and it doesn't cause me any troubles, except being nonstandard maybe I'll change my mind when I don't feel like I'm watching the world go to hell Dude, why do you do that to yourself? Like is there no other chance? Why do you feel like youre watching the world go to hell?
I see this is really hard to comprehend, but it wouldn't be me otherwise I haven't been doing anything to myself except exercising my freedom even when pushed Other chance? Maybe? If a mind alike existed And world goes to hell (or rather, humanity), because it's disparative and competitive
People follow their inner programming with no regard for the realities they force into existence, for their own sake. But unless you plan on living without luxury, this isn't a cornucopia you're living on. Everything is finite, and these centuries are the peak.
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If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched.
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Are you around Mattchew? Let's talk
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you got 8 minutes to respond then i am gonna sleep as it's 5am ^^
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On September 03 2022 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched. when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each
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On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote: i am here
so we agree that tubesock is mafia. talk to me about your other scumreads? cake and slam. Why?
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I'm honestly still having a hard time with tube, his reads are very different from mine and have been for most of the game and I do think the EOD rels shit was super strange but I just can't see scum doing that. He's also responded to pressure fairly well imo and in doing so earned a chance to have another day to get some scum hunting done.
On September 01 2022 10:10 Tubesock wrote: After filter reads towns are
Koshi, Dandel Ion, Jockmcplop, Meap_Ziphh, Copcake, raynpelikoneet, and Alakaslam.
Rels, Vivax
I'm around, going to keep reading.
On September 03 2022 08:12 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 03 2022 07:41 Tubesock wrote: You want to know what's even worse??? I don't think Rels or Vivax are mafia anymore. I have ZERO scumreads at the moment. What are your thoughts on Dandel, Jock, or copcake I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. Dand- I agree with most of what he says. His Rels post I thought aligned well to my thinking. Rels really looked like he was performing. And continued to do so. I for some reason liked how he asked you if you shake your fist at people. Kinda dumb but I gave you both some town points. Granted you had less for being so serious against Decon. Jock- I think he's pretty solid town. I like that he kept looking at other things for the overall picture not just only his lynch. Unlike Decon. Decon would be overhelming town if he was lynch Rels but also doing more investigating. I think Jock is looking deeper than a normal scum would. Copcake- Feeling she's town. Don't agree with her case on you, but I believe she believes it. I've written many cases like that and have been ignored compeltely too.
Mattchew on the other hand is pretty cut and dry
First he has a pretty terrible post calling rayn mafia and me his top town read. He also calls copcake scum based on my case:
On August 31 2022 05:08 Mattchew wrote:Ok lets get started. Theres been a lot of conversation about individual player habits and previous games, honestly i havent played in forever and dont remember the games i did play, i will also not be going back thru previous games/players history to expand on these reads. I will obviously be reading and judging posts with these reads but thru a lens of just this game Having read up to page 22, there was only 1 player that super stuck out as someone I was suspicious of based on just this game and that player is raynpelikoneet. every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads, all of this reads to me as if he is trying to look like he is free posting and active town while not actually saying anything. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Deconduo probs mafia. Apparently all he has said has been sarcasm and prolonging the discussion about that when people dont understand its sarcasm. Very counter productive. Hopefully he does some scumhunting if he happens to be town. Last night o read some of hisrecent games and town filter is scumhunting and scum filter is setup shit talking, so here pretty much the same.
Jock probs town too, maybe dandel too. Doesnt look like he hassny scum driven agenda. Tjose are my reads i have until p15. Like this is his most active post in the game so far and the only thing hes said since actual reads discussion has started (notice his activity has dropped significantly with real game conversation taking place). It consists of what I consider a pretty light/meme read on koshi, a "im not sure" on cake/mz, and insanely light scum read on decon that screams "i can bail on this read if needed" and 2 more random "probs town". This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ The MZ push on CC is also something that has caught my eye. + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ok starting where I left off. Firstly, copcake fluff + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote: Hi Rels, long time no see :D On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote: Hi Jock, long time no see. On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour. Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^ haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015 Oh shit On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look when ever have you cared about this? always I was just very good at hiding my feelings Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist. On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote: Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town: Holyflare deconduo
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia. On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote: Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent. On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote: I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list" Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh your last list was better, you fell off It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes. I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much " feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive. Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet? I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else. Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. Absolutely With this caveat: On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation. I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning. Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list. Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting. So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?" It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment. copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad): Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Tube beats her to the punch here. The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how? Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong. These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off. I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell. Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake. I can't find anything wrong with this post, he is correct about the tone of posts and similarly to my rayn read finds a lot of fluff that anyone can post for activity that doesnt actually help town progress forward towards a mafia lynch. MZ seems to be playing the game very seriously which I can appreciate and at this point is trying to nail down his CC read and is pushing incredibly hard for it which screams MZ is town to me. TLDR: MZ is top town read, Rayn and CC top mafia and Chez rulez He doesn't want to lynch me or rels
On August 31 2022 13:01 Mattchew wrote: man i do not like either of mz or rels. rels made a really good point about rayn that has me super questioning my read on him, his emotional manipulation would be HELLA bitch made if he was mafia doing that. the only person i like on the Rels train is koshi and the only person i like on the MZ train is HF (but he may be pocketing me TBD) So he leaves his vote on rayn (terrible). What a great way to completely avoid having to give any real opinions or reads. He then disappears until after the lynch, when he returns he posts this gem:
On September 01 2022 07:09 Mattchew wrote: Reading up on the past 20ish pages, felt to me like we had 3 town wagons and that the people moving votes around towards the end were more likely town then mafia. This opinion is completely based in the fact that i think mz is town. If i am correct, it would have been incredibly easy for mafia to hide votes scattered amongst dec mz rels. The only person heavily posting at the end of day that i didnt like was slam.
Slam why are you being so lazy Once again, I am seemingly his top town read, and he also freely townreads rels AND all the people moving their votes EOD except for some reason, slam. Having too many townreads is a hallmark of scum because a) you know that everyone actually is town and b) you don't read the game with the same suspicious mindset that a townie has to read it with.
BUT WAIT, PLOT TWIST ALERT:
On September 01 2022 07:17 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 07:15 Koshi wrote: Ok. I am open to the idea Di Mz and some1 on the deco train is scum. Maybe tube.
If so. Town played well. Mafia slightly better. Man a vig shot on mz would fill in so many blanks Time to vig me, his most consistent town read so far, just for information. But aside from the terrible vigi shot, he's also open to the idea that Dandel, and maybe tube AND NOW ME are scum. Not to sound like dandel who harped so much on rels about "progression", but this progression makes absolutely no sense from a town point of view and instead sounds like scum trying to appropriately position themselves for the next lynch.
Now Matt is gonna double down on this:
On September 01 2022 08:43 Mattchew wrote: Shooting mz is best
Mz is mafia, a. A mafia is ded and the people voting him are probably town cause the guts to stay on that bus is just too great for me to fathom
B. Mz is town and while we get significantly less vote logic we atleast dont head into day 2 distracted by how yesterdays lynch and votes and connections are made.
But matt, you think mz is town, yes but i am not nearly good or smart enough to think i am absolutely right or that i feel strong enough about my day 1 read to warrant keeping someone that could be an easy mafia tunnel/mafia member alive "I'm gonna call for my town read to get vigi shot for information because I'm too lazy to figure it out and even though we don't get information if he's town (which is my [matt's] read) but let's just waste a vigi shot N1. Like... there is no possible way a townie could arrive at this line of reasoning.
On September 02 2022 02:42 Mattchew wrote: Lazy reads only eon post:
Town: koshi rels hf
Town but should be vig shot: mz
Scummies: rayn, cc, tube, slam This is just... more bad. Still calling rayn scum, still scum reading copcake based on my case despite the fact he wants me dead. There is absolutely no logical flow to these reads.
On September 03 2022 10:41 Mattchew wrote:yeah im completing my turnaround on rayn. he is active and trying to solve the game. this also may be my new favorite mafia post + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2022 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: truth to be told i actually got quite annoyed at mattchew on day one. i dont think anyone was doubting you lol. anyway i like lynching tubesock, would love to follow that up with a CC or Slam lynch. rayn you dont have MZ as mafia, what does a mafia rels gain from hammering 1 town over another at the last second "completing your turnaround on rayn" bro what? You made one half assed read of rayn at the beginning of D1 and then just lightly called him scum and now all of a sudden you've had an epiphany? This reads like scum trying to back out of a corner. To complete the reads on this post, he says he'd be happy to lynch tube and as far as I can tell this is his reasoning back on D1:
On August 31 2022 05:16 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 04:47 Alakaslam wrote:On August 31 2022 02:26 Tubesock wrote: Read up.
HF obviously remains 100% confirmed town. Since I'm sheeping and hard defending Deconduo he's town too. Dande makes me smile so town there as well. Koshi likes me. That gives me warm fuzzies.
Copcake, Jock, and MZ are overall neutral for me. They do towny things that can be mimicked, but I disagree on several things they say soooooo yeah.
Want to see Rayn go Rayn so waiting for that. Plus, he usually has the Tubesock decoder and can see my town beacon.
I like this Vivax. I usually disagree (not that he's said much about the game) with him but his town light is usually bright and disruptive.
Slam isn't appearing to be having fun. That makes me sad. I disagree with HF's read though. Slam always deprecates himself and is always "this is lynching me" type talk. Slam's a mystery to me, which is why I enjoy him so much.
I can easily vote anyone else I forgot about. Whaaaaaaat? I've been having a ball reading this shit, the mechanics here at Penske Montebello probably think I am crazy now I forgot i wanted to re-look at this post (had it in a tab that i missed) This post by tube was super sketchy and screamed of TMI and trying to blend in, its also his only post of the game since reads have been flowing and has no evidence/logic behind anything said Like damn dude, just gonna hang your hat on that? It really feels like matt is just going along with tube because at the time, the thread was swinging towards a tube lynch.
Matt's play is inconsistent, his reads are all over the place and not backed up, he 180s on rayn for no reason, he calls for me to be shot despite even saying we wouldn't learn anything if I was town (and he thinks I am). He skates the first lynch and is now ready to hop onto whatever wagon is the most convenient.
I would feel much better lynching matt today than either rels or tube.
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On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched. when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each wait so think as mafia rels doesnt hammer on a town wagon??? how does that make sense?
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Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions.
Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's.
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Also, stop worrying about me. This isn't something I just realized. It's stuff I carry around for a while already, but obviously it makes anyone worried when they think about it. In fact, it's just something incorporated into a bunch of religions.
If a video game's rules force you to eventually make decisions that seem to contradict the initial rules, the game contradicts itself, and your mistake was to pretend the first rules were correct.
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me wanting you dead does not mean i dont think your town. I just think it gives the maximum information about yesterdays lynch (you avoided the late bandwagon) and there was/is enough people calling you mafia that you could be an easy mislynch. again, i am not cocky enough to think because i think your town that you wont flip mafia. you can call it lazy i would call it being efficient
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On September 03 2022 11:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions.
Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's. Do you really feel you want to push the dude over the dude who had 2 scumreads and voted the third guy over those two?
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On September 03 2022 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote:On September 03 2022 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched. when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each wait so think as mafia rels doesnt hammer on a town wagon??? how does that make sense? what does he gain is what im asking. he coulda just left his vote where it was and decon is still dead
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On September 03 2022 11:06 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote:On September 03 2022 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched. when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each wait so think as mafia rels doesnt hammer on a town wagon??? how does that make sense? what does he gain is what im asking. he coulda just left his vote where it was and decon is still dead yes and he could do what he did an decon was dead. so what gives? like if MZ and decon (obviously) are town, then mafia Rels doesnt give a fuck where he puts his vote, no?
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On September 03 2022 11:05 Mattchew wrote: me wanting you dead does not mean i dont think your town. I just think it gives the maximum information about yesterdays lynch (you avoided the late bandwagon) and there was/is enough people calling you mafia that you could be an easy mislynch. again, i am not cocky enough to think because i think your town that you wont flip mafia. you can call it lazy i would call it being efficient I avoided the late bandwagon?
Brother I was one of the people who started the decon wagon with slam and jock. Unless you're talking about rels and I already explained why I didn't want to do that.
You don't kill townies for information lol, this is a scum mindset.
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Also i like mz’s case on me from his perspective,
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