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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 03 2022 02:09 GMT
#1301
On September 03 2022 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 11:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions.

Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's.

Do you really feel you want to push the dude over the dude who had 2 scumreads and voted the third guy over those two?

I mean we're also talking about a dude who called for a vigi shot on his top townread.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 03 2022 02:11 GMT
#1302
On September 03 2022 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 11:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions.

Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's.

Do you really feel you want to push the dude over the dude who had 2 scumreads and voted the third guy over those two?

I mean we're also talking about a dude who called for a vigi shot on his top townread.

Did he? We can see.

Matt?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 03 2022 02:12 GMT
#1303
I know he called a shot on you but top town?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 03 2022 02:13 GMT
#1304
On September 03 2022 11:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 11:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh man I should have held off on that post since now matt is here and rayn is asking questions.

Although I feel a lot more certain about matt's alignment than tube's.

Do you really feel you want to push the dude over the dude who had 2 scumreads and voted the third guy over those two?

I mean we're also talking about a dude who called for a vigi shot on his top townread.

Did he? We can see.

Matt?

I mean give what I just posted a good read through, he calls for it and then doubles down.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 03 2022 02:14 GMT
#1305
I will bite
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 03 2022 02:15 GMT
#1306
On September 03 2022 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 11:06 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched.

when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each

wait so think as mafia rels doesnt hammer on a town wagon???
how does that make sense?

what does he gain is what im asking. he coulda just left his vote where it was and decon is still dead

yes and he could do what he did an decon was dead. so what gives?
like if MZ and decon (obviously) are town, then mafia Rels doesnt give a fuck where he puts his vote, no?

Exactly my point why draw attn with a late hammer
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:19 GMT
#1307
On September 02 2022 15:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:28 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now?


Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it.

The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently.

The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels.


What does LHF mean?

Low Hanging Fruit

Or, easy mislynch targets

thanks
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 03 2022 02:20 GMT
#1308
On September 03 2022 11:15 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 11:06 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 10:58 Mattchew wrote:
On September 03 2022 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you mean what Rels as mafia gains from hammering either Deconduo or MZ (if they are both town), well he gains that he is not lynched.

when he made that hammer i dont think he was at risk (3 votes to their 4/5 each

wait so think as mafia rels doesnt hammer on a town wagon???
how does that make sense?

what does he gain is what im asking. he coulda just left his vote where it was and decon is still dead

yes and he could do what he did an decon was dead. so what gives?
like if MZ and decon (obviously) are town, then mafia Rels doesnt give a fuck where he puts his vote, no?

Exactly my point why draw attn with a late hammer

I dont think i get your point. I really don't
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 03 2022 02:24 GMT
#1309
Okay now sleepytime for real.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:28 GMT
#1310
On September 02 2022 15:28 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 12:57 Rels wrote:
QUESTIONS FOR CAKE
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=51#1016
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=52#1025
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=52#1028


I am on my phone but first you wanted to lynch me, then slam, then up against hf then vivax, then dandel?????

Yes, it is true that I think it was ballsy, BALLSY to go against HF close to end of the day but there is this thing in my head that is bothering me, what if you are mafia with MZ and MZ is like powerful mafia and you are normal mafia? And you decided to sacrifice for the sake of the team. The wagon was already on you.

And yes MZ is my #1 lynch, but the wagon is also on you and if you flip red MZ is pretty much mafia.

??? Why does "lynch me, then slam, then up against hf then vivax, then dandel" make me mafia? It should be the reasons for each thing that makes me mafia, not the fact that I scumread different people at different time?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:29 GMT
#1311
On September 03 2022 11:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now sleepytime for real.

still awake so late! Good night
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 03 2022 02:33 GMT
#1312
yes i want one of my top town reads vigi shot because i think fundamentally it makes the most sense and brings about the most information that would lead to a town victory. you can fundamentally disagree with shooting town but to read me as mafia for it when i have clearly explained my thought process is a little weird to me
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:42 GMT
#1313
On September 02 2022 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:22 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right Rels also parroted Koshi's stupid point about keeping Vivax around until D3.

Don't think I've said that? It was more like, Vivax can't fake his town self that long, I think? But he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah.
Vivax, you need to start playing please.
##Vote Vivax

You definitely said that, maybe not exactly but it was at least heavily implied and only AFTER Koshi made this post (#481):
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 07:28 Koshi wrote:
On August 31 2022 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Vivax is town?
So you think deconduo is town?

If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets.

Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market.

Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it.
Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off.


Then you say this (#543):
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote:
I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel.


Then Koshi (#622):
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 16:23 Koshi wrote:
Lynching/shooting Vivax on D1/N1 is just fucking dumb. We all know the guy is an easy catch later on.
If he is still shitty on N2/D3. Kill him.
Atm he is active enough to leave him alone.


After this post you said this (#772):
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 02:19 Rels wrote:
creating a second wagon so we have only wrong choices. Maybe to divert from Vivax yeah? There was a lot of talk about Vivax but no vote at the end
Thing is, I'm not sure because it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I, and I don't think Koshi is scum


So you definitely parroted Koshi's point on vivax for D1, now you say "he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah".

Wait, I thought you problem was based on the fact that I wanted to keep Vivax alive until D3 regardless of how he acted. But it is actually about me parroting Koshi to I guess pocket him or whatever?

If it's the first, well, I already replied to you. Koshi said something like that, but not me (I agree that scum!Vivax is usually obvious late game, but that doesn't mean I didn't want him dead earlier if he continued being useless. I was very OK with Vivax being vig'd if he didn't start playing D1, which he didn't. I'm also pretty sure I said that I would vote him over most of the game).

If that is the last part that is bothering you, then here is where it comes from:
On August 31 2022 21:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
Also koshi has made a fairly convincing case for letting vivax live for now.
I am also giving rels some credit for that too, hence the vote for decon.

This is why I can claim "it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I". Because I know for sure Koshi & I influenced at least one player about Vivax during D1. This is not me lumping together with Koshi for no reason, this is based on something real.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 03 2022 02:47 GMT
#1314
Day Two Vote Count

Tubesock (5): Holyflare, Chezinu, Vivax, Alakaslam, Raynpelikoneet, Mattchew
Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, Vivax
Dandel Ion (1): Rels
Mattchew (0): Vivax
Vivax (0): Rels,

Not Voting (3):Jockmcplop, Tubesock, Meapak_Ziphh

With 5 votes, Tubesock is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:47 GMT
#1315
On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia

180ing on MZ

It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo

Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now.

Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax.

Vivax posts:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around.
Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax????

That's absolutely false. This is how I reacted to that post:
On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Welcome back to the game mate
What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning?
What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH?

So, that Vivax post is NOT why I currently think he might be town. It's the follow up conversation after that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:49 GMT
#1316
On September 02 2022 19:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 18:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 02 2022 17:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now?


Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it.

The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently.

The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels.


Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF?

Actually this is a stupid question by me.

Vivax and Cake, why are you / were you originally voting for Rels at the start of the day?


Because people are more willing to lynch rels than MZ. I made a case and suddenly everyone ignored it except maybe jock and vivax and it is absolutly very frustating to have to explain this several times.

I think both of them are mafia and like I said before, people seem to not want to lynch MZ.

And it is like the beggining of the day also, I dont understand why people take this like toooooooo seriously when you can change your vote when something happens.


I hate the bolded so much
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:53 GMT
#1317
It's so feeble, crumbling under the pressure of a single question and minimizing her actions?

And also it doesn't make sense. Since votes doesn't matter, why not vote her main scumread?

And finally, it's so untrue. That's exactly how the feeling of "oh I guess those are the 2 wagons I need to choose from" can come from. This part doesn't make her scum but it's SO annoying. This is how we realize we can't have a consolidation on anyone apart from the main wagons at deadline when half of the people are not there to react.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:55 GMT
#1318
On September 02 2022 20:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 12:55 Rels wrote:
QUESTIONS FOR DANDEL
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=35#700
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=43#858
(to elaborate that last one, what was your read on dec D1? Was it really only based on unflipped association? What's your read on dec now?)

For further, new proof he now wants to probe me on my read on a player that already flipped.
Because he's an idiot and also because he doesn't care about THE TRUTH
He cares if he can mislynch people only.

....
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:57 GMT
#1319
So I CANT get answers from the person I want to lynch the most. And I CANT pressure him because he's townread for no reason by everyone.
That's fucking annoying.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 03 2022 02:59 GMT
#1320
On September 02 2022 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
I guess Rels wanted people to forget about his vote so bad he also did


^this was progression

On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm progressing into many different ways of reading Rels as mafia

This might be pretty funny if it wasn't so goddamn annoying
I'm lying, it's actually pretty funny. But also very annoying
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