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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On December 03 2020 22:35 pinky29 wrote:Hey BeastyQT, here is one (hacker) for your entertainment, if you're not too consumed with your 1gm vs 6 diamond games. And, yes, I tank my mmr. msg me any time bof5 $150....stop stomping on lower brackets...enjoy https://drop.sc/replay/17374448EDIT: Don't want to break the rules Name: ICE Region: NA Rank: Masters Comment: All probes went straight to proxy and waited for build
I made an account on TL (long time lurker) just to say this. After watching Beastlyqts video based on your replay, if that guy was hacking, then good news, because I'm an alien, and also Jeff Bezos. There is no freaking way that guy was hacking. Literally none. The fact that you call hack before even watching the replay says it all. You seriously accuse someone of hacking before even looking at a replay? In my opinion THAT should be the topic of conversation. False accusations are pretty seriously in my opinion.
(Edit: For ref, I am not particularly good as I don't have time to play much these days, but I watch A LOT of SC2. I'm mid Diamond T/P. There is not a single bit of conclusive evidence in those replays that would point towards hacking as what Vanish did was generally speaking the best decision in that situation.)
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I'm not even sure what pinky's on about. He admits in the first paragraph that he tanks his MMR. Then challenges beastyqt to a bo5 and tells beasty to stop stomping lower brackets? After admitting to tanking his MMR so he can proxy noobs? Pinky you make my brain hurt with your stupid.
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I just played vanish and he didn't do anything that screamed hacking. Just another player on ladder
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Czech Republic12125 Posts
BeastyQT analysis of Pinky's Vanish replay:
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I find it hilarious that in the 1st replay Pinky saws the SCV, Vanish sees the SCV, HACKZORZ!$!@$!$!
As Winter would say for the 1st replay, somebody didn't buy the minimap DLC(I must admit I haven't as well  )
Edit> Damn, didn't realize it was on the previous page as I got loaded onto this one.
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WOW...that first replay is SUPER Blatant. He instantly sends 2scvs to the right proxy location (uncommon location at that). Who scouts that spot first with 2 SCVS in the dark ? No one.
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On December 12 2020 02:08 iMECH_KolosS wrote:WOW...that first replay is SUPER Blatant. He instantly sends 2scvs to the right proxy location (uncommon location at that). Who scouts that spot first with 2 SCVS in the dark ? No one.
vs Marulord: That two SCV move was definitely suspicious, especially the tightening up of their spread and the camera focus right as they were arriving. There should have been no reason to focus them other than to build or target the enemies (which hadn't been spotted yet), and if the intention was to proxy, why move back the forward-most SCV? Otherwise, there weren't many/any blatant fog checks and that battle over the third base seemed to catch them by surprise a little. Also, the final "push". I guess if you're avoiding doing fog-checks to not get caught it makes sense that they wanted to mask it with a scan, but there was clearly a giant blob of units at the top of the ramp, with a relatively naked cliff. Sub-optimal hacker, but I'm only 66% convinced, lol.
vs ElPueblo: The exact right number of initial SCVs and their pull timing was pretty insane. If they weren't hacking, the fact that the one SCV that was seen trailed off to the right did seem like you were trying to "guide" them away from the proxy, which is a bit of a tell. Otherwise everything about that was gross. Somehow, I'm more convinced by that one (75%).
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I'm exon silver and I never talked to this guy before so I don't know why he is accusing me. This is called defamation for me and my team.
Adnap is a streamer, this is probably just stream hacking, not maphack.
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If I remember well, you're a streamer and Rocket is a team that is known to play a lot of streamers. This is most likely a streamhack and not a maphack, which is different.
Moreover, RockeT team has several members and they all share their accounts apparently, so you cannot really say who the player is.
That's sad that RockeT team streamhacks some streamers but you have to ignore them.
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I was playing with 5 min delay but nice try.
Thx for ur tips about ignoring these games tho, soon ill have to appologize for your behavior.
It aint defamation since i provided these replays and the guy streamed on all these accounts.
Grow up kids and stop cheating and snipping players every day.
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You are not playing with delay because you was talking with you chat
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Wow, literally two people making TL accounts to defend this player (poorly). It isn't defamation to call someone out for something they actually did. This is also a "general hacking and cheating thread" not the "maphacking thread". If you think it's somehow more honourable to stream-cheat someone than to maphack, then you're fucked...
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On December 12 2020 16:25 Adnapsc2 wrote:
I was playing with 5 min delay but nice try.
Thx for ur tips about ignoring these games tho, soon ill have to appologize for your behavior.
It aint defamation since i provided these replays and the guy streamed on all these accounts.
Grow up kids and stop cheating and snipping players every day.
Why do you need to lie? You perfectly know that you hadn't 5 mins but none and you still lie to pretend he was MAPHACKING instead of streamhacking.
That's a shame.
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On December 13 2020 07:21 Azrog123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2020 16:25 Adnapsc2 wrote:
I was playing with 5 min delay but nice try.
Thx for ur tips about ignoring these games tho, soon ill have to appologize for your behavior.
It aint defamation since i provided these replays and the guy streamed on all these accounts.
Grow up kids and stop cheating and snipping players every day. Why do you need to lie? You perfectly know that you hadn't 5 mins but none and you still lie to pretend he was MAPHACKING instead of streamhacking. That's a shame.
I don't know why you think there's any difference between the two.
Streamers, who get caught practicing in that get banned from the platform. Users should be held to the same standard.
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Another report for ICE
https://sc2overwatch.com/game_players/123
Looks through the fog of war pretty much all game. Unscouted defense of 12 pool, which he stares at through the fog of war, too. Pretty blatant
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Hacker name- <iMkS> YeraldSC (Also known as Kaoz/Kaoz18)
Server-NA
League- GM (5800)
Description-
I dont like accusing people of hacking, but this is kinda sketch.
Terran didn't scout DT shrine & he saved energy for a scan. Watch his POV (5:23) as he unloads bunker and scans before the DT is even close to arriving. I asked my opponent afterwards for why he scanned, and he said for an observer.
Why would he scan for an observer when a raven is 2 seconds away from popping though?
His bnet: battlenet:://starcraft/profile/1/1790204001753497600
Potential Hacking Replay: https://lotv.spawningtool.com/65203/
Another replay that looks normal where he uses scan: https://lotv.spawningtool.com/65204/
Poll: Do you think he hacks, or just luck?Luck (15) 83% Hacks (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Do you think he hacks, or just luck? (Vote): Hacks
(Vote): Luck
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On February 06 2021 02:29 maplez_ wrote:Hacker name- <iMkS> YeraldSC (Also known as Kaoz/Kaoz18) Server-NA League- GM (5800) Description- I dont like accusing people of hacking, but this is kinda sketch. Terran didn't scout DT shrine & he saved energy for a scan. Watch his POV (5:23) as he unloads bunker and scans before the DT is even close to arriving. I asked my opponent afterwards for why he scanned, and he said for an observer. Why would he scan for an observer when a raven is 2 seconds away from popping though? His bnet: battlenet:://starcraft/profile/1/1790204001753497600 Potential Hacking Replay: https://lotv.spawningtool.com/65203/Another replay that looks normal where he uses scan: https://lotv.spawningtool.com/65204/Poll: Do you think he hacks, or just luck?Luck (15) 83% Hacks (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Do you think he hacks, or just luck? (Vote): Hacks
(Vote): Luck
I really don't think this is suspicious. Scanning right before a Raven pops is really stupid, but I do that all the time, and always feel like an idiot after. Scanning for an obs there is also totally reasonable, because more often than not there is one there. Plus, there are a bunch of things in the replay that point towards him not hacking, IMO. He runs his mine drop over a pylon and gets basically nothing done with it as a result, ran a drop over your adept at 7:25 (which could've just been intended to catch it but still), moves out right when your prism is moving in at around 10:20, his scan almost misses the Obs at 11:10, almost runs straight into your army at 11:30, etc. I really see nothing fishy here, just a bit of a lucky scan.
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