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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
MinesMakeWidows
Profile Joined October 2020
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-31 04:03:02
October 31 2020 04:01 GMT
#10501
Map hacking is out of control. These garbage players in Diamond 1 that used to be masters are so obvious. They're not good at the game anymore and can't play to save their lives.

So we got smurfs and map hackers all over the place, these people straight up suck at the game and play down in competition. Its disgraceful.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-31 06:50:55
October 31 2020 04:19 GMT
#10502
On October 31 2020 13:01 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Map hacking is out of control. These garbage players in Diamond 1 that used to be masters are so obvious. They're not good at the game anymore and can't play to save their lives.

So we got smurfs and map hackers all over the place, these people straight up suck at the game and play down in competition. Its disgraceful.


In the past month i have played agaisnt two maphackers. I'm also in diamond. I have the replays and reported them to Blizzard. I was going to put them here but since the thread is "GM" hacking I didn't think anyone would care.

For some reason i don't remember the first game, but the second game I made a proxy, and the second I put down the pylon, like literally that same second, the enemy took a SCV and sent it where I had made the pylon. Withouth moving the camera even. EDIT watching the replay again he did move the camera....straight to the area I had planted a pylon.

But ok right, could be a weird super unlikely coincidence right?

But then... I made a second proxy, to the right. Like, I continued the proxy on the left, made a gateway or something, and on the right side of the map in his third I made a proxy and then a battery and a stargate. He killed the first one. and like 1 minute later the guy takes his army and sends it straight to my second Proxy, without scouting it at all, and it was not in the path to my base or anything, there was no reason to go there. But he misscalculated and as VR came out and a new warp-in as well as the batteries I was able to push back his army and eventually win the game ROFL. A decent actual diamond player would have beat me, but it was obvious this guy was only on diamond cause of the hack.
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SickeL
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
110 Posts
October 31 2020 06:16 GMT
#10503
On October 31 2020 13:01 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Map hacking is out of control. These garbage players in Diamond 1 that used to be masters are so obvious. They're not good at the game anymore and can't play to save their lives.

So we got smurfs and map hackers all over the place, these people straight up suck at the game and play down in competition. Its disgraceful.


I think someone with even diamond level mechanics maphacking could make it into Masters 1 and GM. Might just be salt friend
A wise man once said "Oppa Gangnam style."
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
October 31 2020 11:22 GMT
#10504
I still keep https://sc2overwatch.com updated with all of the reports here.

Map hacking slowed down for a long time, but with Blizzard's distancing themselves from SC2 I can see it picking up again. I'd really encourage you guys to upload *all* replays of people you play here so we can get a comprehensive list.
Cereal
MinesMakeWidows
Profile Joined October 2020
21 Posts
October 31 2020 14:52 GMT
#10505
On October 31 2020 15:16 SickeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2020 13:01 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Map hacking is out of control. These garbage players in Diamond 1 that used to be masters are so obvious. They're not good at the game anymore and can't play to save their lives.

So we got smurfs and map hackers all over the place, these people straight up suck at the game and play down in competition. Its disgraceful.


I think someone with even diamond level mechanics maphacking could make it into Masters 1 and GM. Might just be salt friend



I dont think so. I watch replays of people attack moving their drone scout to proxied raxes and playing completely blind. I watch the camera movements on their vision. I'd post the replay but dont wanna violate the rules since it says masters/GM only.

Thats fine if lower league experiences don't qualify, blizzard doesn't ban map hackers anyways. I know my weaknesses as a player and a map hack wouldn't put me into masters 1 no matter what. I'm not going to say every time I lose its vs a map hacker, I'm just saying they exist at all levels.
esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
November 01 2020 08:47 GMT
#10506
On October 31 2020 23:52 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
blizzard doesn't ban map hackers anyways.


Incorrect. They do as long as people properly report them by sending the replays to their anti-cheat email.
Skill is relative.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-01 12:31:38
November 01 2020 12:30 GMT
#10507
On September 29 2020 18:50 ProTech wrote:


Purelegacy will always be a cheater. Maphacks, stream snipes, stream cheats, ladder manipulation... You guys reallly think a guy who cheats in every way possible randomly stopped hacking? He got better at hacking thats all.
syndbg
Profile Joined February 2018
43 Posts
November 01 2020 20:46 GMT
#10508
On November 01 2020 17:47 esReveR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2020 23:52 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
blizzard doesn't ban map hackers anyways.


Incorrect. They do as long as people properly report them by sending the replays to their anti-cheat email.

Eh, there's such an email? TIL after 10 years.

What's the point of the report system in game then :D
Burny
Profile Joined December 2013
Germany9 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-02 03:09:08
November 02 2020 02:58 GMT
#10509
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Link: https://starcraft2.com/en-gb/profile/1/1/11473686
Server: US
League: 1v1 GM
Replay: https://drop.sc/replay/16991622
Rankedftw profile: https://www.rankedftw.com/team/6466766/#td=world&ty=m&ra=best&tyz=1&tx=a&tl=1
BattleTag: DirePants#2139385 (Nickname 'zulema' on EU)

1) Goes no-scout gas-first reaper expand
2) This guy moves right on time in position to intercept my reaper
3) Intercepts my tank drop by moving out on the map directly in front of the medivac
4) Randomly sieges at a random position on the map, leaving his main base vulnerable
5) Looks in the fog of war at my main base at 6:40, selects CCs, has enough energy to scan, but doesn't scan (sometimes I do that where I look in the fog but then realize I don't have enough energy to scan)
6) Having a very bad build order for a 5.7k GM player
7) Has worse SCV production than me even though he went reaper expand and I went double gas factory expand
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
November 02 2020 10:34 GMT
#10510
now I don't wanna be bias but, why are map hackers relevant in sc2? you can beat them anyway unless you relay on gimmick allins
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
November 02 2020 10:43 GMT
#10511
On November 02 2020 19:34 xsnac wrote:
now I don't wanna be bias but, why are map hackers relevant in sc2? you can beat them anyway unless you relay on gimmick allins


Map hacks include full map vision, but also extend to blink hacks, micro hacks, perfect inject hacks, automatic creep spread hacks.

On top of that, knowing full army positioning, when the opponent moves out, everything the opponent is making is obviously an advantage.
Cereal
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
November 06 2020 13:07 GMT
#10512
On November 01 2020 17:47 esReveR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2020 23:52 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
blizzard doesn't ban map hackers anyways.


Incorrect. They do as long as people properly report them by sending the replays to their anti-cheat email.


Incorrect. I've sent the replay of the fake Avilo to that useless email adress one month ago and probably ten other people did the same. He is still laddering freely with the same account.

On October 31 2020 15:16 SickeL wrote:
I think someone with even diamond level mechanics maphacking could make it into Masters 1 and GM. Might just be salt friend


Correct. This guy is now a GM player with diamond mechanics.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-06 18:07:42
November 06 2020 18:07 GMT
#10513
On November 06 2020 22:07 Aegwynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 17:47 esReveR wrote:
On October 31 2020 23:52 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
blizzard doesn't ban map hackers anyways.


Incorrect. They do as long as people properly report them by sending the replays to their anti-cheat email.


Incorrect. I've sent the replay of the fake Avilo to that useless email adress one month ago and probably ten other people did the same. He is still laddering freely with the same account.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2020 15:16 SickeL wrote:
I think someone with even diamond level mechanics maphacking could make it into Masters 1 and GM. Might just be salt friend


Correct. This guy is now a GM player with diamond mechanics.


Sorry buy thats nonsense. No hack can promote D1 or D2 even to M1, not to talk about GM. Its like 2 different games.
pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 14:59:58
November 13 2020 13:28 GMT
#10514
Hacker Name: Carriermom
Replay: https://drop.sc/replay/17124861
Server: NA
League: M1

Very clear hacker.

@1:50 click on building but THINKS he pretend scout. He actually missed vision of the building.

@3:45 perfect build timing to counter a Thor rush and sends all units to my proxy which HE DOESNT SEE, yet, ironically, fails


pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
November 17 2020 03:05 GMT
#10515
On December 13 2019 16:27 pinky29 wrote:
And another....geez guys over 5k mmr. Why do I still play. I didn't know you proxy 2-rax AND go directly to my proxy 1 rax. Must be a mind reader.

Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M1

https://drop.sc/replay/12595855

This guys seems to all over the place the second his hack kicks in: 20k games diamond to master, to diamond to masters. Maybe he ran out of cash.


Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M2 (was M1) I guess 100 apm can only bring you so far as a hacker

@0:22 seconds camera locks to exactly where i'm proxying in fog of war. He doesn't react because he is proxying 2 rax.
@4:35 fakes 1 marine knowing I have a siege tank there an not even scouting
@6:10 Fans out army and wait for me to unsiege at that exact second

https://drop.sc/replay/17165202


jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
November 20 2020 18:02 GMT
#10516
On November 17 2020 12:05 pinky29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2019 16:27 pinky29 wrote:
And another....geez guys over 5k mmr. Why do I still play. I didn't know you proxy 2-rax AND go directly to my proxy 1 rax. Must be a mind reader.

Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M1

https://drop.sc/replay/12595855

This guys seems to all over the place the second his hack kicks in: 20k games diamond to master, to diamond to masters. Maybe he ran out of cash.


Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M2 (was M1) I guess 100 apm can only bring you so far as a hacker

@0:22 seconds camera locks to exactly where i'm proxying in fog of war. He doesn't react because he is proxying 2 rax.
@4:35 fakes 1 marine knowing I have a siege tank there an not even scouting
@6:10 Fans out army and wait for me to unsiege at that exact second

https://drop.sc/replay/17165202



Your replays just got featured on beastyqt's stream. You might wanna check it out.
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pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-03 13:57:02
December 03 2020 13:35 GMT
#10517
Hey BeastyQT, here is one (hacker) for your entertainment, if you're not too consumed with your 1gm vs 6 diamond games. And, yes, I tank my mmr.

msg me any time bof5 $150....stop stomping on lower brackets...enjoy

https://drop.sc/replay/17374448


EDIT: Don't want to break the rules
Name: ICE
Region: NA
Rank: Masters
Comment: All probes went straight to proxy and waited for build
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9794 Posts
December 06 2020 13:44 GMT
#10518
On November 21 2020 03:02 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2020 12:05 pinky29 wrote:
On December 13 2019 16:27 pinky29 wrote:
And another....geez guys over 5k mmr. Why do I still play. I didn't know you proxy 2-rax AND go directly to my proxy 1 rax. Must be a mind reader.

Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M1

https://drop.sc/replay/12595855

This guys seems to all over the place the second his hack kicks in: 20k games diamond to master, to diamond to masters. Maybe he ran out of cash.


Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M2 (was M1) I guess 100 apm can only bring you so far as a hacker

@0:22 seconds camera locks to exactly where i'm proxying in fog of war. He doesn't react because he is proxying 2 rax.
@4:35 fakes 1 marine knowing I have a siege tank there an not even scouting
@6:10 Fans out army and wait for me to unsiege at that exact second

https://drop.sc/replay/17165202



Your replays just got featured on beastyqt's stream. You might wanna check it out.


Haha owned.
RIP Meatloaf <3
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 06 2020 13:56 GMT
#10519
On November 21 2020 03:02 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2020 12:05 pinky29 wrote:
On December 13 2019 16:27 pinky29 wrote:
And another....geez guys over 5k mmr. Why do I still play. I didn't know you proxy 2-rax AND go directly to my proxy 1 rax. Must be a mind reader.

Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M1

https://drop.sc/replay/12595855

This guys seems to all over the place the second his hack kicks in: 20k games diamond to master, to diamond to masters. Maybe he ran out of cash.


Name: Vanish
Region: US
Rank: M2 (was M1) I guess 100 apm can only bring you so far as a hacker

@0:22 seconds camera locks to exactly where i'm proxying in fog of war. He doesn't react because he is proxying 2 rax.
@4:35 fakes 1 marine knowing I have a siege tank there an not even scouting
@6:10 Fans out army and wait for me to unsiege at that exact second

https://drop.sc/replay/17165202



Your replays just got featured on beastyqt's stream. You might wanna check it out.

And it s live on Youtube now as well:
MaxPax
iMECH_KolosS
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada61 Posts
December 06 2020 16:22 GMT
#10520
I must admit, I kind of agree with Beasty regarding Vanish. To me it doesn't strike as hacking.
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