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On May 20 2019 21:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 19 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:I'm not going to bother explaining myself when I can just boost my own ego by quoting HF's post on me. Y'all can go read that and figure out what my alignment is. + Show Spoiler +although confirmed town is an exaggeration, I think it should be obvious why I consider HF town and rayn not, at least with this amount of info. I also really like how everyone besides HF is arguing on the behalf of rayn and every time rayn posts he makes himself look worse. Let him talk about other things, his defense so far is not getting us anywhere. I dont believe your attitude here is real. I feel a disconnect between the first paragraph and the spoiler. There's like three different contrasting emotions in here and I find it hard to reconcile as anything other than putting up a front. ##vote wherebugsgo You are probably really good. Which I find annoying. Also you guys had a really mediocre song and I dont understand the world.
Norway should have won.
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On May 19 2019 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I think today (irl, first 24 hours) would be a lot more productive if everyone operated under the assumption that A) rayn is not lynchable and B) bugs is not lynchable. My reasoning is this: from what I've seen both of them are going to be relatively active during this cycle, and there's a non-zero chance that they're both town. IF they're both town, there's a >50% chance that this thread is completely ruined by the end if this first 24 hours. So in the spirit of getting everyone to look at the game holistically, I'd like it if everyone just IGNORED rayn and bugs today (first 24 hours) and then if we still want to lynch into them then we pull them back into the pool next day.
To that end I'm going to unvote and reread everything. Quite unlikely, but I am going to be so amused if the scumteam is something like VE/WBG/Rayn.
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On May 20 2019 20:31 Conversion wrote: the fuck is Jock shitting on me for when I was literally on a plane and how are people eating that bullshit up as a scum read
dude literally shared a scum read with me in a post and then still scumreads me
stay classy
in other news disfo still has done nothing and I’m still hearing a lot of white noise on other people so we should lynch disfo. I’m heading to work now so hopefully I can llay at lunch or something
So if you want me to vote disfo based on them doing nothing then why shouldn't I vote for you? The only tihng you've done is kinda read disfo and while also saying you might be wrong about it.
The reason I would have for voting disfo is basically the reason I'm voting for you, but applies less in disfo's case.
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I also really don't mind the Calix entry post as much as some people. Can be hard entering a game that's already started when your actual opinions just follow thread sentiment. Echoing it can be useful for people to know where you stand and it didn't feel like she was trying to pass it off as something she came up with.
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On May 20 2019 21:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I also really don't mind the Calix entry post as much as some people. Can be hard entering a game that's already started when your actual opinions just follow thread sentiment. Echoing it can be useful for people to know where you stand and it didn't feel like she was trying to pass it off as something she came up with.
Do you think Calix normally plays differently? That's what koshi is getting at. Are we supposed to expect more?
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Artanis is falling to the scummy pile
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On May 20 2019 21:59 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 21:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I also really don't mind the Calix entry post as much as some people. Can be hard entering a game that's already started when your actual opinions just follow thread sentiment. Echoing it can be useful for people to know where you stand and it didn't feel like she was trying to pass it off as something she came up with. Do you think Calix normally plays differently? That's what koshi is getting at. Are we supposed to expect more? I have no idea. I recall her being pretty good a while back, but the entry alone doesn't bother me.
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On May 20 2019 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO. This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels. [2]
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On May 20 2019 22:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO. This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels. [2]
Can you explain how this shows Calix wants to lynch townies?
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On May 20 2019 21:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 21:44 Koshi wrote:On May 19 2019 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 19 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:I'm not going to bother explaining myself when I can just boost my own ego by quoting HF's post on me. Y'all can go read that and figure out what my alignment is. + Show Spoiler +although confirmed town is an exaggeration, I think it should be obvious why I consider HF town and rayn not, at least with this amount of info. I also really like how everyone besides HF is arguing on the behalf of rayn and every time rayn posts he makes himself look worse. Let him talk about other things, his defense so far is not getting us anywhere. I dont believe your attitude here is real. I feel a disconnect between the first paragraph and the spoiler. There's like three different contrasting emotions in here and I find it hard to reconcile as anything other than putting up a front. ##vote wherebugsgo You are probably really good. Which I find annoying. Also you guys had a really mediocre song and I dont understand the world. Norway should have won. I paid 50 cents for that so I am upset it didnt happen.
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On May 20 2019 22:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 22:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO. This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels. [2] Can you explain how this shows Calix wants to lynch townies? "better to get it out of the way" suggests not actually thinking they'll flip scum to me. The tone of the post in general doesn't suggest that she thinks they'll likely flip scum, which when juxtaposed with her Rayn position doesn't make a whole lotta sense.
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I'm starting to think VE is mafia. He's behaving differently to last game in his posting style. Last game he was blue, but the difference is weird.
On May 02 2019 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh no, you don't cut into rayn's sauna time with this Pandain. Let him answer it post-lynch. A non-sauna'd rayn is an unhappy rayn.
On May 03 2019 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: But really Bugs, I'm telling you, it's not interesting from that point on. Pandain can feasibly be excused for his posting due to the thread rate at the time. The really telling bit is at the beginning of the game when he was town.
On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote: NO RAYN I DIDN'T
I will though, because I like you.
On May 03 2019 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Man rayn fuck is this a MSPaint timeline case?
If it is rather than read it I'd like you to draw it in MSPaint.
On May 03 2019 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Man rayn that's painful. Like all it looks like to me is someone who's not used to playing with you taking umbrage with your playstyle. You didn't like his answers, but he DID answer. I'm definitely not seeing the mafia that you see. If there's something I'm missing, hit me up with it. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just fucking saying and now you made me angry. Is it possible you're just mad?
On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote: You know what
No.
Pandain.
No.
You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.
In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.
##Vote: Pandain
Notice how he directly addresses people by name when he's talking to them, as if he's trying to cooperatively play the game as part of a town team hunting scum.
not a single example of that in this game. Not once.
Is that a mafia tell? Dunno, but its a weird change in posting style.
Also important... In the last game he did the following thing when he was trying to get people lynched:
On May 01 2019 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote: You should bring your sword and lynch Jock with us.
On May 03 2019 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Join the Pandain Counterwagon of Greatest Glory tm
I haven't seen anything like that either.
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On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.
As I am just finishing the catch up so far.
Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.
Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. A lot of posturing in here, as well as a strawman. HF fakeclaiming has nothing to do with claiming a wrong name for a role. The two situations are incomparable. Also, what is he actually accomplishing with this? He's making a general statement without bothering to follow up on who transgressed in the way he mentioned. "Anyone who liked HF for his claim comments should want to kill HF instead". What? And then anyone who liked him for things after is in the clear? When did we suddenly switch from talking about HF's alignment to the alignment of these unnamed players?
Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote: Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. Speaking of thread sentiment, how about piling onto a post everyone's already piled up on? Seems like a good strategy. He's being wordy on a post people have already gone into detail about. Pretty easy.
VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Says basically nothing.
Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do... I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. In this quote thread, BC comes out with the following reads on people listed:
Rayn - Null - possible town HF - null to scum Jock - null to scum And no read on me. If everyone's nullish, what could possibly be interesting on this streak that he wants to get reads on others off on? I don't get it.
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40 minutes for 4 pages, fuck this game. I signed up with the intent of spending 2 hours max per day, if even that. Gonna skim the rest of the thread and filter BC. If you want my opinion on anyone specific let me know.
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Artanis what do you think of the post above. Is this kind of subtle change within the bounds of what could naturally change about the way someone posts from one game to the next??? I can't tell if its a good scum read or not. HELP ME. It might be nothing, i just noticed a change in his post style and having looked through a couple of filters that was what jumped out at me.
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yall a bunch of bloody haters. can't post/link youtube videos while at work.
On May 20 2019 20:31 Conversion wrote: the fuck is Jock shitting on me for when I was literally on a plane and how are people eating that bullshit up as a scum read
dude literally shared a scum read with me in a post and then still scumreads me
stay classy
in other news disfo still has done nothing and I’m still hearing a lot of white noise on other people so we should lynch disfo. I’m heading to work now so hopefully I can llay at lunch or something
On May 20 2019 20:33 Conversion wrote: like i think it’s incredibly disingenous to cal me flaky and apologetic and trying to lurk for not doing much when the only other person that pointed disfo out at the point was rayn at that point. also fuck you why would i ever make an irl excuse when i can just literally disappear. also double fuck you because i didnt play the last game i was in because i lost my job So. Does that make jock scum or pants on head town?
aight. onto jock: didn't really see the stuff rayn was going on about early in the game. cobbler asked about a specific post. with a bit of squinting i could see a scum angle in there, but nothing really convincing.
small things: i seem to dip out of / into his lynch pool a fair, bit so not 100% where his read on me is. sounds a bit opportunistic to me. another small thing:
On May 20 2019 18:54 Jockmcplop wrote: YES calix lets convert that conversion into a dead scum. imo calix is also a scum lean of his. the reaction feels more like town happiness of possibly getting his fav. lunch.
Overall he is touching a lot of options and leaving most of them open. calix scum lean, can vote ruxxor, disfo scum lean, scum conv, igrok good lynch. 5/13 and no big names. Can be scum trying to see what sticks. Not impossible to be hyperactive town though. also contributing more to the game than other people. so while not feeling super hot either way i think he can have the benefit of the doubt for now.
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On May 20 2019 06:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: After that post.
Early thread leanings
VE - Town Rayn - Null - possible town
HF - null to scum Jock - null to scum
Ruxxar - Lean scum Callix - Scum
On May 20 2019 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Rayn, take a step back and take a chill pill. Regardless of what else Jock has posted in thread, his most damning post is the one I quoted. Again, I want at least VE or Bugs, preferably both and a few others to talk on it and I will say why.
However at this point, Ruxxar and Calix are the 2 scummiest people in thread. I mean I would actually kill Ruxxar over Calix at this point but we also have 48 hours or some nonsense left to get information on people. What changed between these two posts? This was all that was posted by them in between:
On May 20 2019 06:44 ruXxar wrote: i dont know jocks meta, but i find it extremely unlikely he is mafia.
On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote: sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics. i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart. - hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up. - VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia. - rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho. - bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information. already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not. Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote: Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post right here it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is
On May 20 2019 06:54 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote: sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics. i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart. - hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up. - VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia. - rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho. - bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information. already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix I don't know what you refer to with 'too certain of [her] opinions' or 'tries to find the best angle to defend them' given that all I've really done so far is sheep people. Which I am going to continue doing for various reasons. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote: sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics. i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart. - hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up. - VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia. - rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho. - bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information. already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Umm Between Ruxxar and Calix one or both are red, just saying What about that post made you not like Ruxxar?
In between, BC also posted this:
On May 20 2019 06:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote: sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics. i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart. - hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up. - VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia. - rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho. - bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information. already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Umm Between Ruxxar and Calix one or both are red, just saying Did he not read RuXxar's post the first time? Why is he suddenly more scummy than Calix?
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On May 20 2019 22:26 Jockmcplop wrote: Artanis what do you think of the post above. Is this kind of subtle change within the bounds of what could naturally change about the way someone posts from one game to the next??? I can't tell if its a good scum read or not. HELP ME. It might be nothing, i just noticed a change in his post style and having looked through a couple of filters that was what jumped out at me. Will get to it once I'm through with BC's filter. Can you take a look at my post in the meantime?
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On May 20 2019 22:17 Jockmcplop wrote:I'm starting to think VE is mafia. He's behaving differently to last game in his posting style. Last game he was blue, but the difference is weird. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh no, you don't cut into rayn's sauna time with this Pandain. Let him answer it post-lynch. A non-sauna'd rayn is an unhappy rayn. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: But really Bugs, I'm telling you, it's not interesting from that point on. Pandain can feasibly be excused for his posting due to the thread rate at the time. The really telling bit is at the beginning of the game when he was town. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote: NO RAYN I DIDN'T
I will though, because I like you. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Man rayn fuck is this a MSPaint timeline case?
If it is rather than read it I'd like you to draw it in MSPaint. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Man rayn that's painful. Like all it looks like to me is someone who's not used to playing with you taking umbrage with your playstyle. You didn't like his answers, but he DID answer. I'm definitely not seeing the mafia that you see. If there's something I'm missing, hit me up with it. On May 02 2019 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just fucking saying and now you made me angry. Is it possible you're just mad? Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote: You know what
No.
Pandain.
No.
You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.
In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.
##Vote: Pandain Notice how he directly addresses people by name when he's talking to them, as if he's trying to cooperatively play the game as part of a town team hunting scum. not a single example of that in this game. Not once. Is that a mafia tell? Dunno, but its a weird change in posting style. Also important... In the last game he did the following thing when he was trying to get people lynched: Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote: You should bring your sword and lynch Jock with us. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Join the Pandain Counterwagon of Greatest Glory tm I haven't seen anything like that either. i mean... a) you yourself said that ppl shouldnt meta you on a change of posting style since you mix it up on purpose? b) you could go to the database and dig out town and mafia games of VE and look for yourself if that could be a meta case?
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On May 20 2019 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 22:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 22:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO. This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels. [2] Can you explain how this shows Calix wants to lynch townies? "better to get it out of the way" suggests not actually thinking they'll flip scum to me. The tone of the post in general doesn't suggest that she thinks they'll likely flip scum, which when juxtaposed with her Rayn position doesn't make a whole lotta sense.
You realise this means get their tantrum out of the way not lynch them right?
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