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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 20 2019 11:31 GMT
#661
the fuck is Jock shitting on me for when I was literally on a plane and how are people eating that bullshit up as a scum read

dude literally shared a scum read with me in a post and then still scumreads me

stay classy

in other news disfo still has done nothing and I’m still hearing a lot of white noise on other people so we should lynch disfo. I’m heading to work now so hopefully I can llay at lunch or something
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 20 2019 11:33 GMT
#662
like i think it’s incredibly disingenous to cal me flaky and apologetic and trying to lurk for not doing much when the only other person that pointed disfo out at the point was rayn at that point. also fuck you why would i ever make an irl excuse when i can just literally disappear. also double fuck you because i didnt play the last game i was in because i lost my job
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 20 2019 11:33 GMT
#663
On May 20 2019 20:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 20:07 Calix wrote:
On May 20 2019 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 20:03 Calix wrote:
On May 20 2019 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
sorry to say but I have to agree with HF here, VE. Actually until his post listing the people he considered in his town circle I would have said BC & Jock are the only ones in my circle but actually I'd be willing to include HF as well

rayn I'd consider the raging hobo who I feel bad for and occasionally give money to but he smells bad and yells a lot so I'd rather put him outside

Anyway you have a chance to be let in, don't worry. I see you knocking at that door. You'll have to help us out on koshi, conversion, and ruxxar first though. Which would you kill right now, at this very moment?

BTW HF is the Koshi bandage something you reckon we rip off now or later? He basically just said he won't stop trolling/shitting the thread up until we vote him out, and honestly given the game so far I don't see any reason for a townie, even Koshi, to blow up this hard


I don't agree with your characterisation of Koshi here. He's been posting quite a lot of his thoughts and when reading them, I didn't see them as 'trolling/ shitting up the thread'.


are we even reading the same game right now


Apparently yes.

This isn't to say I think he's town, just that I don't think the huge number of short posts he's making are AI. Which is what you were referring to in this post ^^

My main problem with him is that he's gunning so hard for my head right now and not for good reason. So it's hard for me to trust him or what he says because [if town] his view of the game is so distorted.


go read this: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/545657-uninspired-mafia?user=Koshi

and then this: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=Koshi

And tell me if Koshi is different alignments between the two.

hint: I think you're right that the huge number of short posts are not alignment indicative.



After a review of these filters, it's kinda obvious which one is which. Helps that I hosted the second game :')

I'm not sure if this was you making a point about mafia!Koshi but I'm actually more inclined to think Koshi is town this game after doing this XD
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 11:39 GMT
#664
Ok. Calix and I are friends now. I will unvote later and rethink this.

Pompompompom
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 11:40 GMT
#665
I am going to do something heroic and throw koshi into my arbitrary town outer circle with VE.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 11:49 GMT
#666
Wbg is probably mafia for pushing me to vote Calix.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 11:50 GMT
#667
On May 20 2019 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Koshi did you see my post? This:

Koshi why is it that you don't care about Conversion? Does this mean you don't read him as either town nor scum?

Sounded like you find him easy to read normally, though.

Also why don't you just vote Calix?

Asks me to vote his not scummy read Calix.
I had a good night of sleep.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 20 2019 11:55 GMT
#668
and in ye olde #666 where the sun never sets, Koshi proclaimed,

"wbg asked me to vote my scumread therefore he is mafia"

as the wind passed between his cheeks
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 20 2019 11:55 GMT
#669
On May 20 2019 15:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread.
P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm.


Fuck you man.
I'm here ask anything you want.
I'm also grumpy in the mornings.


Would you kill ruxxar?

If no, why not?

What about disformation and Calix?

Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1.


I can't figure out why you would want to kill ruxxar. Looking through your filter there's a post where you say its because of something he said but didn't quote it. I really, genuinely don't have time to go ook it up in the thread but man I can't see anything that really jumps out at me as scummy. Yet.

Disinformation:
I don't really like his posting. Its a little scummy to pick on reads that other people are making without making any of your own so he is certainly in the scumlean pile.


Calix
That first post was horrible. Later on he is posting things that make a little bit of sense.
I'm interested in the VE/rayn setup idea, although I'm also open to that literally just being VE knowing that rayn would shit up the thread because he always does this.


On May 20 2019 19:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 19:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


What is your read on Jock?

And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky?

flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*.
hmm good point but x” “this is true but y”

is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot?
interested to see if he follows up on the meta though.

jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain.
On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e

highway to the danger zone
right into the danger zone

great now i have an ear worm


I don't like this post.

Seems to inject some silly lightheartedness in there at the end but it sounds forced. As if its saying 'LIKE ME GUYS'.

Does this seem off to anyone else?


Not saying he's scum but it caught my attention at least.



why does he go from a scumlean to you finding a post about him and taking an ironically passive stance on disfo, something you’re calling me out for..
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 20 2019 12:13 GMT
#670
On May 20 2019 20:55 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 15:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread.
P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm.


Fuck you man.
I'm here ask anything you want.
I'm also grumpy in the mornings.


Would you kill ruxxar?

If no, why not?

What about disformation and Calix?

Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1.


I can't figure out why you would want to kill ruxxar. Looking through your filter there's a post where you say its because of something he said but didn't quote it. I really, genuinely don't have time to go ook it up in the thread but man I can't see anything that really jumps out at me as scummy. Yet.

Disinformation:
I don't really like his posting. Its a little scummy to pick on reads that other people are making without making any of your own so he is certainly in the scumlean pile.


Calix
That first post was horrible. Later on he is posting things that make a little bit of sense.
I'm interested in the VE/rayn setup idea, although I'm also open to that literally just being VE knowing that rayn would shit up the thread because he always does this.


Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 19:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 19:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


What is your read on Jock?

And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky?

flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*.
hmm good point but x” “this is true but y”

is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot?
interested to see if he follows up on the meta though.

jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain.
On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e

highway to the danger zone
right into the danger zone

great now i have an ear worm


I don't like this post.

Seems to inject some silly lightheartedness in there at the end but it sounds forced. As if its saying 'LIKE ME GUYS'.

Does this seem off to anyone else?


Not saying he's scum but it caught my attention at least.



why does he go from a scumlean to you finding a post about him and taking an ironically passive stance on disfo, something you’re calling me out for..


Disfo is still a scumlean but hasn't done anything that screams scum. Its mostly just for a general lack of good posts. One good post at this point would probably change my mind so I'm not inclined to vote for disfo on that basis.

Honestly that second bit you quoted isn't something I'm very confident about. I would be a bit foolish to call someone out for being scum because I found thought they were being over friendly like that in one single post. Its too hard to tell the difference between over friendly and friendly on a forum post. If it was a pattern then yeah. I just pointed it out because I'm at work and don't have my notes with me so it makes it easier to write up ontes when i get home if I literally quote every single post that catches my attention.

Its very different to your case because you have not done anything AND the one read you did make you made a weird excuse for why it could be wrong. That gives me strong scummy vibes. I wasn't really calling you out for being afk (iirc i said that's not scummy on its own) it was more just support for my case.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 20 2019 12:29 GMT
#671
On May 20 2019 20:33 Conversion wrote:
like i think it’s incredibly disingenous to cal me flaky and apologetic and trying to lurk for not doing much when the only other person that pointed disfo out at the point was rayn at that point. also fuck you why would i ever make an irl excuse when i can just literally disappear. also double fuck you because i didnt play the last game i was in because i lost my job


Isn't appeal to emotion like number 1 in the mafia playbook?

Sorry for being an asshole about it, but yeah that's just more evidence.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 20 2019 12:34 GMT
#672
On May 20 2019 21:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 20:33 Conversion wrote:
like i think it’s incredibly disingenous to cal me flaky and apologetic and trying to lurk for not doing much when the only other person that pointed disfo out at the point was rayn at that point. also fuck you why would i ever make an irl excuse when i can just literally disappear. also double fuck you because i didnt play the last game i was in because i lost my job


Isn't appeal to emotion like number 1 in the mafia playbook?

Sorry for being an asshole about it, but yeah that's just more evidence.


no you’re just being unnecessarily obtuse about saying I played in the last game, you dumbass
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 20 2019 12:35 GMT
#673
if your job is forgetting what you said and saying I’m appealing to emotion you can fuck right off until you help me lynch my scumread
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 12:42 GMT
#674
On May 20 2019 07:23 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:19 Calix wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is literally the exact shit I was trying to avoid.

I'm catching up but man alive. I specifically warned against this shit.


Actually you know what?

I am calling bullshit on this.

This seems way too convenient. VE just HAPPENED to warn us against pushing rayn too much, tried diverting to iGrok, claimed rayn would ruin the game if we kept pushing him, etc.

Then rayn just latches onto a bad case against Jock and pushes it with a vastly disproportionate amount of confidence before making a random and completely unwarranted role claim and generally acting like he's lost his shit.

Emphasis on the acting.

I'm more tempted to think VE/ rayn set this up than anything else. There are lots of 'hints' beforehand that make me suspicious as to how authentic they're being.

#shamelesstinfoil

imo VE has mostet townie brownies so far, but I like this post. reminds me i need more vivax in my life (where did he goooo?

I am also bothered about this. Maybe I cant let this pass.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 20 2019 12:42 GMT
#675
Catching up.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 12:44 GMT
#676
On May 19 2019 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm not going to bother explaining myself when I can just boost my own ego by quoting HF's post on me. Y'all can go read that and figure out what my alignment is. + Show Spoiler +
although confirmed town is an exaggeration, I think it should be obvious why I consider HF town and rayn not, at least with this amount of info.


I also really like how everyone besides HF is arguing on the behalf of rayn and every time rayn posts he makes himself look worse. Let him talk about other things, his defense so far is not getting us anywhere.

I dont believe your attitude here is real. I feel a disconnect between the first paragraph and the spoiler. There's like three different contrasting emotions in here and I find it hard to reconcile as anything other than putting up a front.

##vote wherebugsgo

You are probably really good. Which I find annoying.
Also you guys had a really mediocre song and I dont understand the world.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 20 2019 12:45 GMT
#677
On May 20 2019 21:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm not going to bother explaining myself when I can just boost my own ego by quoting HF's post on me. Y'all can go read that and figure out what my alignment is. + Show Spoiler +
although confirmed town is an exaggeration, I think it should be obvious why I consider HF town and rayn not, at least with this amount of info.


I also really like how everyone besides HF is arguing on the behalf of rayn and every time rayn posts he makes himself look worse. Let him talk about other things, his defense so far is not getting us anywhere.

I dont believe your attitude here is real. I feel a disconnect between the first paragraph and the spoiler. There's like three different contrasting emotions in here and I find it hard to reconcile as anything other than putting up a front.

##vote wherebugsgo

You are probably really good. Which I find annoying.
Also you guys had a really mediocre song and I dont understand the world.

I haven't even heard it yet. I did get out to the departure hall like 5 seconds before the dude did. Bunch of cheering behind me "DUNCAAN!!!". Felt like a rock star pretending it was all about me, then annoyed by how long it took to get past the screaming fanboys.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 12:49 GMT
#678
On May 20 2019 21:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 21:44 Koshi wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm not going to bother explaining myself when I can just boost my own ego by quoting HF's post on me. Y'all can go read that and figure out what my alignment is. + Show Spoiler +
although confirmed town is an exaggeration, I think it should be obvious why I consider HF town and rayn not, at least with this amount of info.


I also really like how everyone besides HF is arguing on the behalf of rayn and every time rayn posts he makes himself look worse. Let him talk about other things, his defense so far is not getting us anywhere.

I dont believe your attitude here is real. I feel a disconnect between the first paragraph and the spoiler. There's like three different contrasting emotions in here and I find it hard to reconcile as anything other than putting up a front.

##vote wherebugsgo

You are probably really good. Which I find annoying.
Also you guys had a really mediocre song and I dont understand the world.

I haven't even heard it yet. I did get out to the departure hall like 5 seconds before the dude did. Bunch of cheering behind me "DUNCAAN!!!". Felt like a rock star pretending it was all about me, then annoyed by how long it took to get past the screaming fanboys.

My first wish on my birthday was to not see Holland win. 😭
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 12:50 GMT
#679
Disformation
Wbg
?
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 20 2019 12:50 GMT
#680
On May 20 2019 21:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 21:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 21:44 Koshi wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm not going to bother explaining myself when I can just boost my own ego by quoting HF's post on me. Y'all can go read that and figure out what my alignment is. + Show Spoiler +
although confirmed town is an exaggeration, I think it should be obvious why I consider HF town and rayn not, at least with this amount of info.


I also really like how everyone besides HF is arguing on the behalf of rayn and every time rayn posts he makes himself look worse. Let him talk about other things, his defense so far is not getting us anywhere.

I dont believe your attitude here is real. I feel a disconnect between the first paragraph and the spoiler. There's like three different contrasting emotions in here and I find it hard to reconcile as anything other than putting up a front.

##vote wherebugsgo

You are probably really good. Which I find annoying.
Also you guys had a really mediocre song and I dont understand the world.

I haven't even heard it yet. I did get out to the departure hall like 5 seconds before the dude did. Bunch of cheering behind me "DUNCAAN!!!". Felt like a rock star pretending it was all about me, then annoyed by how long it took to get past the screaming fanboys.

My first wish on my birthday was to not see Holland win. 😭

You're in luck! Holland didn't participate as it's not a country
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