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On May 02 2019 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote: Good chance one of the three of us dies if we’re all town. I’m not sure if all 3 of us are but occam’s razor suggests that to be true I also want to hear an explanation on this because i have no idea how you write this thing.
easy. Right now, the simplest solution for me is to assume both you and HF are town because even though I don’t agree with everything you are saying, how you are saying it and how you are (seemingly) trying to figure out the game makes it seem like you are town.
I could argue on balance that one of you should be scum but that’s not the simplest answer because it requires me to throw away my actual read on one or both of you.
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Also iGrok is a non-entity because he is going to be replaced/modkilled at the day start unless hosts are lying about their rules.
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On May 02 2019 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote: I could argue on balance that one of you should be scum but that’s not the simplest answer because it requires me to throw away my actual read on one or both of you. if you have a real town read on us (i mean based on posts we have made) why do you ever even say this?
What is your read on BC?
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Also why did you never ever push your read on MZ? Did you realise noone even got what your read was?
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iGrok is not a non-entity, that slot has a minimum 20% chance of being scum
Obviously that’s conditional on how many scum we think are actually active but IMO that third slot is the grand question atm.
I’m fairly confident MZ is scum though. Pandain is a more recent read and Pandain is more active anyway so let’s see what happens there.
As for me justifying my read on you, that seems like a waste of time to me. Why don’t we talk about what you think the scumteam is at this point?
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On May 02 2019 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also why did you never ever push your read on MZ? Did you realise noone even got what your read was?
BC town, I didn’t push my read on MZ because I doubted myself and I also wasn’t insistent enough on maintaining a counter wagon.
Had Jock responded better to me I would have defended him very hard because I thought the meta case was really bad (also really HF, you should apologize for that reading comprehension insult LOL)
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i am pretty sure i have said what i think the scum team is atm
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at the time you read MZ mafia and jock "idk" so why did you decide to question jock instead of pushing your real scumread?
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On May 02 2019 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am pretty sure i have said what i think the scum team is atm
Pretty sure you said it was me, Vivax, and HF which I can tell you off the bat is at least 33% wrong. Also HF isn’t playing well IMO but at least for now that doesn’t make him scum.
I know you probably think you are playing transparently and townie but if you are town, then I will ask that you spend less time contributing to the thread with useless filler posts like this one and more helping others actually establish your reads, particularly your reasoning. You certainly seem to think I should be doing that but you appear to have little self-awareness that you aren’t doing that.
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actually thanks rayn, you made me realize that I have on read for not very great reasons.
BC what do you think of MZ and Pandain?
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On May 02 2019 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I like to think of myself as a bit of a rayn-whisperer....
is rayn town?
What about Holyflare, Meapak, BC, and Pandain?
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can you answer my useful questions instead of commenting on "useless stuff"?
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On May 02 2019 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote: I know you probably think you are playing transparently and townie but if you are town, then I will ask that you spend less time contributing to the thread with useless filler posts like this one and more helping others actually establish your reads, particularly your reasoning. You certainly seem to think I should be doing that but you appear to have little self-awareness that you aren’t doing that. If you are town this is the most gross shit i have ever heard from a townie considering how you have posted throughout the game and what the results are so far.
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Just fucking saying and now you made me angry.
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On May 02 2019 09:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: can you answer my useful questions instead of commenting on "useless stuff"?
what useful questions? You're just spending time on things I've already given answers to. Here goes, the last time I'm going to explain this to you. If you want more explanations after this one to satisfy your inability to read me, consider actually being useful.
why did I push jock instead of MZ? I already answered this, if Jock had a good response I would defend him and push MZ, but Jock had really terrible responses that made me end up agreeing with the case. Agreeing with the case for different reasons = I thought he had a higher chance of flipping scum than MZ, because when different players agree for different reasons that's typically a good sign.
Also if you go and reread, there was a fair amount of resistance to MZ which I thought was coming from townies. Again, just lack of confidence from me.
Another factor honestly was that I felt even if I did push MZ nothing would come out of it because the game was very inactive.
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VE I want your opinions on this:
is rayn town?
What about Holyflare, Meapak, BC, and Pandain?
BC I want your opinions on the same list of players but replace yourself with VE
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On May 02 2019 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I like to think of myself as a bit of a rayn-whisperer.... is rayn town? What about Holyflare, Meapak, BC, and Pandain? Rayn feels town yeah. I think Pandain or HF made this read last game that I think is accurate that says rayn makes posts where he thinks everything is obvious to everyone else so doesn't give much reasoning. Actually it may have actually been rayn self reflecting in early game.
Anyway that's how I feel abt him this game. I think it feels townie.
WBG: But he's self aware making the meta useless right? He can emulate it as town.
I agree generally, except when he tries it feels fakelike and agenda-laden. It fool's some. I'm less fooled.
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you did "push jock" (i put that in quotation marks because you never really did) for answers you were never realisitically gonna get even before "terrible answers", enough for me to consider that it's not legit.
Fine, it's me against you, maybe you convince other people of what you say.
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On May 02 2019 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I like to think of myself as a bit of a rayn-whisperer.... is rayn town? What about Holyflare, Meapak, BC, and Pandain? Rayn feels town yeah. I think Pandain or HF made this read last game that I think is accurate that says rayn makes posts where he thinks everything is obvious to everyone else so doesn't give much reasoning. Actually it may have actually been rayn self reflecting in early game. Anyway that's how I feel abt him this game. I think it feels townie. WBG: But he's self aware making the meta useless right? He can emulate it as town. I agree generally, except when he tries it feels fakelike and agenda-laden. It fool's some. I'm less fooled.
I agree with you, and it seems like rayn took offense at me pointing out that to him just now :p
What about BC, Meapak, and Pandain?
Is HF town playing badly or mafia misleading us here? I need a bit of that VE paranoia to fuel me here
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I'd lynch MZ and I'd have to read abt Pandain. I think BC town. I struggle to read hF and would fear lynch him. Sry BBY. I'd fear lynch you too, but I'm less interested in doing so than with HF.
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