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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 02 2019 01:04 GMT
#421
On May 02 2019 10:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 02 2019 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like to think of myself as a bit of a rayn-whisperer....


is rayn town?

What about Holyflare, Meapak, BC, and Pandain?

Rayn feels town yeah. I think Pandain or HF made this read last game that I think is accurate that says rayn makes posts where he thinks everything is obvious to everyone else so doesn't give much reasoning. Actually it may have actually been rayn self reflecting in early game.

Anyway that's how I feel abt him this game. I think it feels townie.

WBG: But he's self aware making the meta useless right? He can emulate it as town.

I agree generally, except when he tries it feels fakelike and agenda-laden. It fool's some. I'm less fooled.


I agree with you, and it seems like rayn took offense at me pointing out that to him just now :p

What about BC, Meapak, and Pandain?

Is HF town playing badly or mafia misleading us here? I need a bit of that VE paranoia to fuel me here


The paranoia comes out in force when people want to lynch me. You'll get there I'm sure.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 01:04 GMT
#422
On May 02 2019 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd lynch MZ and I'd have to read abt Pandain. I think BC town. I struggle to read hF and would fear lynch him. Sry BBY. I'd fear lynch you too, but I'm less interested in doing so than with HF.


Mind reading on Pandain and BC and getting back to me, keeping in mind you want to lynch MZ? I say that because I was a bit surprised when I did that myself and want to see if you reach the same conclusions as I did
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:05 GMT
#423
Why the fuck would people want to lynch MZ?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 01:06 GMT
#424
On May 02 2019 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 10:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 02 2019 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like to think of myself as a bit of a rayn-whisperer....


is rayn town?

What about Holyflare, Meapak, BC, and Pandain?

Rayn feels town yeah. I think Pandain or HF made this read last game that I think is accurate that says rayn makes posts where he thinks everything is obvious to everyone else so doesn't give much reasoning. Actually it may have actually been rayn self reflecting in early game.

Anyway that's how I feel abt him this game. I think it feels townie.

WBG: But he's self aware making the meta useless right? He can emulate it as town.

I agree generally, except when he tries it feels fakelike and agenda-laden. It fool's some. I'm less fooled.


I agree with you, and it seems like rayn took offense at me pointing out that to him just now :p

What about BC, Meapak, and Pandain?

Is HF town playing badly or mafia misleading us here? I need a bit of that VE paranoia to fuel me here


The paranoia comes out in force when people want to lynch me. You'll get there I'm sure.


yeah I mean I'm always a bit paranoid when it comes to you, amigo, but I've learned to embrace it and fuel my inner desires.

Though this game there are several characters I might be more paranoid about
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:12 GMT
#425
On March 05 2019 13:55 Tictock wrote:

I've seen Rayn many a time bulldog down a scumread of his even when there is tons of evidence that he could be wrong, but since he sees something that colors a person red he will never let it go. Similarly will ignore someone he sees as townie who disagrees since he writes them off in his mind since he has "solved" their alignment. I'd go so far as to say that Rayn often is playing his own game of mafia, called "How right can Rayn be this game" (ok this is a bit unfair, and sorry Rayn, but it's how I perceive it).

this is the most accurate thing i have ever seen in my life and i hate that people wanted to actually lynch this dude in that game. No need to be sorry, again, this is 100% right. For the people who are trying or "trying" to figure out my alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:14 GMT
#426
if i happen to ever meet you in person tictock i will serve you a beer, the biggest one the bar has.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:15 GMT
#427
yes not buy, serve.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 01:28 GMT
#428
actually nah Pandain is not scum

HF's case is pretty trash
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:32 GMT
#429
On May 02 2019 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would people want to lynch MZ?

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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 01:36 GMT
#430
On May 02 2019 10:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would people want to lynch MZ?



have you played with MZ before?

If you have, compare MZ's posts in this game to that and you'll see why MZ is scum basically immediately.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:39 GMT
#431
Just like jock is scum?

You'll have to do a bit more on that one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:41 GMT
#432
what
is
the
case
?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:42 GMT
#433
you can basically immediately tell that i think.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 01:42 GMT
#434
On May 02 2019 10:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just like jock is scum?

You'll have to do a bit more on that one.


if you aren't willing to try what I said, then just wait till daytime. If I'm still alive I'll be pushing MZ tomorrow. If I'm not, that's a pretty good reason to kill him.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 01:53 GMT
#435
On May 02 2019 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
go back and reread the progression of my read, it’s actually fairly obvious at the point where I agreed with the Jock case (hint: it’s when I actually voted) I had already formed my read on grack well before that.

On May 01 2019 23:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
1. MZ claimed to be "obviously standing with the Jock suspicions crowd" but never actually voted

Maybe you are right and town, but it doesnt seem like that to me. It seems to me you had the MZ suspicion and reasoning way before Jock was even a real candidate and i dont believe your reasoning you state on later quote.

If you are town and die i am heavily surprised, i would give that like 5% of chance.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 02:03 GMT
#436
rayn I think you need to step back and ask yourself what you are trying to accomplish because right now you are making very little sense.

Maybe you are right and town, but it doesnt seem like that to me. It seems to me you had the MZ suspicion and reasoning way before Jock was even a real candidate...


it seems like that to you because that's exactly how it occurred. I've had the MZ suspicion from the beginning, that never changed.

and i dont believe your reasoning you state on later quote.


I haven't bothered to explain my reasoning on MZ besides pointing out the non-vote, so I don't know how you've come to this conclusion. You haven't even tried the thing that actually made me suspicious of MZ in the first place, which was confirming I knew how to read MZ by reading his past games.

If it seems like I'm not being straightforward here that's my intention. I didn't want to taint the read or tip off MZ too much, but given that Jock was a dead-end I should have done more in hindsight. MZ's disappearance is giving me confidence, though, because I always thought that MZ is constantly scared when playing scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 02:10 GMT
#437
Okay. Am i mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 02:18 GMT
#438
Why is MZ mafia? Like why really MZ is fucking mafia? Jesus why doesnt bugs just write it?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 02 2019 02:19 GMT
#439
On May 02 2019 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. Am i mafia?


no, I don't think so. I think HF is more likely to be scum than you if I had to flip one of my reads.

Do you actually legitimately believe an HF & Vivax & me scum team? If me and HF were on the same team why would I argue with him over meta on Jock?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 02 2019 02:20 GMT
#440
On May 02 2019 11:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
You haven't even tried the thing that actually made me suspicious of MZ in the first place, which was confirming I knew how to read MZ by reading his past games..

if someone can see this you can call me mafia 100%. i dont see this.
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