Riot announcing their champion roadmap for the next quarter shortly. The big news is that the next champ is an AD Assassin, Mordekaiser complete VGU rework soonTM, and a 'one-man army' (potentially Panth?) will be getting some work done, perhaps a small VGU like Morg.

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/04/champion-roadmap-april-2019/

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Poland9085 Posts

April 23 2019 17:21 GMT

#23

At first I was like "what the fug, why are they adding another AD assassin to the game", but then I realized it's just Zed and Talon who match Riot's definition of a solo lane assassin.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

April 23 2019 18:41 GMT

#24

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Slusher

United States19143 Posts

April 23 2019 20:49 GMT

#25

Not a fan of Panth rework, the champ sees play and serves a purpose as one of the only point and click stuns left in the game (which are healthy for the game to have)

lilwisper

United States2515 Posts

April 24 2019 08:49 GMT

#26

On April 24 2019 05:49 Slusher wrote:
Not a fan of Panth rework, the champ sees play and serves a purpose as one of the only point and click stuns left in the game (which are healthy for the game to have)

But he doesn't have a 3-5 hit marker for % health dmg, or a transform that adds 4 more skills.

Bulgaria4093 Posts

April 24 2019 10:39 GMT

#27

riot will probably get rid of his point click stun and I also think that some of the point click stuff should stay in the game to deal with the excessive mobility. Some point and clicks are not ok, the ones that have no trade offs like Veigar's R or even Panth Q, but for the W Panth has to commit with his body, same for Udyr and probably the same for Renekton, so they are ok imo

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 24 2019 12:08 GMT

#28

Yes, point and click stuns are needed to deal with certain champs, looking at you Yasuo. Funny you mentioned those spells because the most infamous root in the game is Ryze W, its one of the core aspects that make him so strong, almost no other mid laner has a click stun except for Liss, who was meta for this past year.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

April 24 2019 13:28 GMT

#29

The Point and click stuns left are less tilting than point and click ultimate steal if you ask me

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

April 24 2019 13:34 GMT

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Gahlo

United States35080 Posts

April 24 2019 13:46 GMT

#31

You wouldn't download an ult.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

April 24 2019 13:59 GMT

#32

The problem for Panth is his Q is so obnoxious. It's far more annoying than his point and click stun and I think the stun can stay. I also think his R will stay the same pretty much since it's so connected to his theme. That leaves his passive, Q and E as the things to change. His E is pretty boring as a concept but I think his passive is unique/interesting enough to leave as is or give minor changes based on the rest of his kit's changes.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 24 2019 14:13 GMT

#33

Yes, Panth ult is his defining feature, I doubt they'd get rid of it because it's not exactly broken. All his basic abilities are up for grabs, I'd be fine if he didn't play out like he does now, so long as he feels like a gladiator. Kind of like Sion and the rest of the juggernaut lineup.

The Point and click stuns left are less tilting than point and click ultimate steal if you ask me

Not gonna lie, when I first saw Sylas in a game, I thought his ult was a skillshot, because it felt broken otherwise. Now I know you can't escape it even if you walk out of range, drive by Sylas is a thing. If you walk into his lane as Kindred and completely fail a gank, all of a sudden he's free to dive your laner as soon as you leave.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

April 24 2019 16:05 GMT

#34

I’m the context of his Q and E I can agree, I just think his w and passive are both very important/unique, especially the interaction between the two with regards to tower dives.

If that all stays I’m down

Uldridge

Belgium4470 Posts

April 24 2019 17:10 GMT

#35

Yasuo can windwall Sylas ult steal.
So here you have it, a situation where your worst enemy becomes a valuable asset.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

April 24 2019 18:09 GMT

#36

Speaking of point and click, I miss putting Yasuo players in the no fun zone with Lulu mid

Gahlo

United States35080 Posts

April 24 2019 19:55 GMT

#37

On April 25 2019 03:09 Slusher wrote:
Speaking of point and click, I miss putting Yasuo players in the no fun zone with Lulu mid

Yeah, I can see poly being hard to windwall consistently.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

April 24 2019 21:33 GMT

#38

Panth's Q being point'n'click is integral to his play patterns as a lane bully though. If he has to move up to you and right-click you to fight, he's gonna get destroyed by minion aggro seeing how he's got no mobility and no sustain.
Q being reliable helps him be a bully, helps his last hitting in bad match-ups, and gives him a chance against ranged champions.

Point'n'click nuke is bullshit on stuff like Ryze who already had a big advantage over melee champs, especially top, but Panth doesn't have as much mana so he has to balance its usage.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

April 25 2019 06:39 GMT

#39

Wait... Why do they need to rework Pantheon though?

<_<

I think he's been in a good spot for a long time, and I think he fills a good gameplay niche. I also dont think he's inherently broken or game breaking. But I could be wrong.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

April 25 2019 07:49 GMT

#40

On April 25 2019 15:39 iCanada wrote:
Wait... Why do they need to rework Pantheon though?

<_<

I think he's been in a good spot for a long time, and I think he fills a good gameplay niche. I also dont think he's inherently broken or game breaking. But I could be wrong.

Pretty sure it'll be mainly a Visuals update as he's one of the last of the pizza feet with some light work on his abilities to modernise him a bit.