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On March 09 2019 14:39 pvsnp wrote: For whatever reason, I feel like sOs is gonna face TY in the Ro8. Call it a hunch.
I'm not sure if it's possible but I"d definitely love to watch that.
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On March 09 2019 14:39 pvsnp wrote: For whatever reason, I feel like sOs is gonna face TY in the Ro8. Call it a hunch.
I'd say that's the most reasonable conclusion. Classic and sOs are much better PvP than Trap, while sOs usually loses to Classic. Bogus isn't too hot lately and TvP has always been his weakest in general, so yeah sOs will probably come 2nd.
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I'm going to be so sad if Rogue gets knocked out... There's still hope though!
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BCs! Finally a good game?!
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I feel like if Gumiho just didn't throwaway those 10+ helions he would be in an amazing position and would have held this counter easily.
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Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ?
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Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up.
On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote: Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ?
Reavers feel closer to mid tier units.
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Gumiho made 3 BCs and I really think that's too many. A lot of them open you up to hard counter units too much in this game.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up. Show nested quote +On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote: Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ? Reavers feel closer to mid tier units. I mean, tech tree wise reavers are basically BW's collosi retarded ancestor (though if we consider lore, it should be collosi that are smart ancestors of reavers lol), they are high tier units all things considered.
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On March 09 2019 15:03 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2019 14:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up. On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote: Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ? Reavers feel closer to mid tier units. I mean, tech tree wise reavers are basically BW's collosi retarded ancestor (though if we consider lore, it should be collosi that are smart ancestors of reavers lol), they are high tier units all things considered.
I'd consider colossi kinda mid tier too. Certainly easier to get fast than battlecruisers (or equivalently carriers or a mothership).
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The lack of micro play potential to a BC compared to a speed shuttle with a Reaver is probably the biggest difference between the two now that I think about it after Artosis' later comments.
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Beating Terran with Roach/Hydra in 2019
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Very rare you see blinding clouds used on bio. On pro play.
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We can count this as a late game win for soO right? His army was almost entirely roach/ravager/hydra admittedly, but he was building a greater spire.
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Canada8988 Posts
Man soO 2-0 Gumi, he really is a changed mam
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This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production.
Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo.
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On March 09 2019 15:18 Nakajin wrote: Man soO 2-0 Gumi, he really is a changed mam
Tbf RagnaroK also 2-0ed GuMi, so I'm not sure how much of an achievement beating GuMiho is.
On March 09 2019 15:19 Noocta wrote: This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production.
Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo.
Tanks are tough. If you have a massive number of tanks yes they can be quite good against soO's comp., but if you just have a handful and are still building the tank count, soO makes a few ravagers, biles the tanks and wins easily.
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On March 09 2019 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2019 15:19 Noocta wrote: This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production.
Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo. Tanks are tough. If you have a massive number of tanks yes they can be quite good against soO's comp., but if you just have a handful and are still building the tank count, soO makes a few ravagers, biles the tanks and wins easily.
Oh for sure. I don't think you ever increase the number of Factyories, but if you keep the tanks alive better, and get up to 5 or 6, probably does wonder to not get on the backfoot of map dominance.
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