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GSL Season 1
2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code SStreams & Casters
Format
- Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament Format.
- Group Nominations.
- All matches are Bo3.
Map Pool
Group D
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[GSL 2019] Season 1 - Ro16 Group D
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
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Pandemona
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deacon.frost
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SetGuitarsToKill
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
 TY 2-0 GuMiho Rogue 1-2 soOTY 1-2 soORogue 1-2 GuMihoTY 1-2 GuMihosoO rides his momentum, and Gumiho starts to even things up | ||
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pvsnp
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 09 2019 04:52 pvsnp wrote: Wait why is D playing instead of B? Groups B and C have players at wesg but D doesn't so they may as well play it instead of delaying the whole season like initially planned | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 09 2019 04:58 Fango wrote: Groups B and C have players at wesg but D doesn't so they may as well play it instead of delaying the whole season like initially planned Thanks, that makes sense | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
Heart: TY soO | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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edit: And unsurprisingly Rogue vetoes the two smallest maps. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Die4Ever
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Topin
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mierin
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pvsnp
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FrostedMiniWheats
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 13:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: What the hell is that odd structure on soO's production tab? After winning something he's a changed man. edit: nvm he got immediately bopped. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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mierin
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Anc13nt
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 13:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: boy nydus is good, why didn't soO get one Cause Rogue knows how to play late game and would've done a much better job of denying them? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 13:57 Anc13nt wrote: tbh the new nydus I think was a really bad idea. Nydus is pretty difficult to balance. The margin between broken and useless is really narrow. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On March 09 2019 13:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Nydus is pretty difficult to balance. The margin between broken and useless is really narrow. Yeah that's true. I just feel like it's overused atm and gives a lot of cheap wins. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 09 2019 13:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Cause Rogue knows how to play late game and would've done a much better job of denying them? That's interesting...I know Serral wasn't playing his best at IEM, but I'd put him at the top ZvZ tier and Rogue a tiny fraction below that. I think soO isn't as good as Rogue at ZvZ yet somehow Serral beat Rogue and not soO recently...haha. But yeah if I had to guess it'd be Serral > Rogue > soO | ||
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Anc13nt
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:03 Anc13nt wrote: I think Rogue's late game is definitely better than soO's and almost on par with Serral's but soO feels like only person who can beat Serral during mass roach phase so I think it's hard to say who is better than the other. True. Also love the players in your sig! | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:01 mierin wrote: That's interesting...I know Serral wasn't playing his best at IEM, but I'd put him at the top ZvZ tier and Rogue a tiny fraction below that. I think soO isn't as good as Rogue at ZvZ yet somehow Serral beat Rogue and not soO recently...haha. But yeah if I had to guess it'd be Serral > Rogue > soO I'd tend to agree, but we also don't have all that many matches to go off of. No one's far enough ahead of the pack to be immune to losing a bo3 or bo5. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I'd tend to agree, but we also don't have all that many matches to go off of. No one's far enough ahead of the pack to be immune to losing a bo3 or bo5. Absolutely. | ||
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pvsnp
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:09 pvsnp wrote: So apparently Creator is the weirdest guy in Jin Air? The more you know. Can you even imagine Creator getting angry? He seems like the nicest guy, lol | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:09 pvsnp wrote: So apparently Creator is the weirdest guy in Jin Air? The more you know. Years of washing dishes have taken a toll on him. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Kazi25
Philippines236 Posts
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XDEKSDEEXD
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mierin
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Tsubbi
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pvsnp
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On March 09 2019 14:32 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: We're gonna have half the ro8 be Terran after nonstop bitching and moaning Since 1/3 Terran is the optimal distribution and the IEM Ro8 had 0/3 Terrans, that means GSL Ro8 will have 2/3 Terrans, right? | ||
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Kazi25
Philippines236 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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pvsnp
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:39 pvsnp wrote: For whatever reason, I feel like sOs is gonna face TY in the Ro8. Call it a hunch. I'm not sure if it's possible but I"d definitely love to watch that. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:39 pvsnp wrote: For whatever reason, I feel like sOs is gonna face TY in the Ro8. Call it a hunch. I'd say that's the most reasonable conclusion. Classic and sOs are much better PvP than Trap, while sOs usually loses to Classic. Bogus isn't too hot lately and TvP has always been his weakest in general, so yeah sOs will probably come 2nd. | ||
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zodiaczerg
Canada63 Posts
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Noocta
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ZigguratOfUr
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On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote: Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ? Reavers feel closer to mid tier units. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On March 09 2019 14:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up. Reavers feel closer to mid tier units. I mean, tech tree wise reavers are basically BW's collosi retarded ancestor (though if we consider lore, it should be collosi that are smart ancestors of reavers lol), they are high tier units all things considered. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:03 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, tech tree wise reavers are basically BW's collosi retarded ancestor (though if we consider lore, it should be collosi that are smart ancestors of reavers lol), they are high tier units all things considered. I'd consider colossi kinda mid tier too. Certainly easier to get fast than battlecruisers (or equivalently carriers or a mothership). | ||
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Noocta
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Kazi25
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Nakajin
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:18 Nakajin wrote: Man soO 2-0 Gumi, he really is a changed mam Tbf RagnaroK also 2-0ed GuMi, so I'm not sure how much of an achievement beating GuMiho is. On March 09 2019 15:19 Noocta wrote: This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production. Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo. Tanks are tough. If you have a massive number of tanks yes they can be quite good against soO's comp., but if you just have a handful and are still building the tank count, soO makes a few ravagers, biles the tanks and wins easily. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Tanks are tough. If you have a massive number of tanks yes they can be quite good against soO's comp., but if you just have a handful and are still building the tank count, soO makes a few ravagers, biles the tanks and wins easily. Oh for sure. I don't think you ever increase the number of Factyories, but if you keep the tanks alive better, and get up to 5 or 6, probably does wonder to not get on the backfoot of map dominance. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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pvsnp
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On March 09 2019 15:36 chipmonklord17 wrote: It felt like soO felt like he was ahead for some unknown reason, and then found out he was wrong +2 vs +1 is good, but not charge-into-maxed-roach-concave-and-win good | ||
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Noocta
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:37 pvsnp wrote: +2 vs +1 is good, but not charge-into-maxed-roach-concave-and-win good I guess I was a little too vague. For some reason soO felt like he had a significant advantage for some unknown reason. Like a player of soO's caliber knows that +2 vs +1 isn't THAT big of an advantage that he could take that battle. He must of thought he had some other advantage that we'll likely never be aware of | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:41 chipmonklord17 wrote: I guess I was a little too vague. For some reason soO felt like he had a significant advantage for some unknown reason. Like a player of soO's caliber knows that +2 vs +1 isn't THAT big of an advantage that he could take that battle. He must of thought he had some other advantage that we'll likely never be aware of Pretty sure he knew he was behind. The (transient) upgrade advantage was the only one he was going to get so he over-pressed trying to make something happen. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Pretty sure he knew he was behind. The (transient) upgrade advantage was the only one he was going to get so he over-pressed trying to make something happen. Weren't they relatively even before that attack? | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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Kazi25
Philippines236 Posts
 Well, at least he now got more time to enjoy his winnings. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:44 chipmonklord17 wrote: Weren't they relatively even before that attack? I felt he was just a bit worse in every single aspect of the game (apart from the upgrade). And yeah time to laugh at the TL power rank. | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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pvsnp
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Edit: nvm he answered it himself | ||
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zodiaczerg
Canada63 Posts
On March 09 2019 15:50 Anc13nt wrote: Hope Rogue finally gets through ro8 lol. He looked pretty strong today. Rogue was looking pretty good today! Hopefully that carries on in the RO8... | ||
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seemsgood
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On March 09 2019 15:37 Noocta wrote: That felt like a WoL ZvZ. Roaches vs Roaches army, one big fight, game over. ZvZ is still so trash to the point it only took me one nap to miss today GSL group.... | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On March 09 2019 16:17 seemsgood wrote: ZvZ is still so trash to the point it only took me one nap to miss today GSL group.... I mean, it was a very straight forward group today. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
That's one thing I saw him pretty good at it. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 09 2019 00:45 deacon.frost wrote: It's obvious, TY because he's TY and then Rogue because he needs another RO8 appearance so he can fail at it. C'mon, don't let me down, boys. Just looking at the results I told ya so | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 09 2019 17:54 deacon.frost wrote: Just looking at the results I told ya soNice one! I wanted to Liquibet TY and Rogue yesterday before noticing I had already picked TY and soO two weeks ago; winning IEM was too much for soO to handle, I guess. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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MarianoSC2
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Penev
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 09 2019 22:03 Penev wrote: never go heart when liquibetting, why doesn't this lesson stick with me Talk for you, I came second in a Katowice prediction pool betting everytime on soO | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
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sneakyfox
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On March 09 2019 14:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I'd say that's the most reasonable conclusion. Classic and sOs are much better PvP than Trap, while sOs usually loses to Classic. Bogus isn't too hot lately and TvP has always been his weakest in general, so yeah sOs will probably come 2nd. Actually, TvP has always been Innovation's strongest matchup. His TvP winrate is a stellar 68,2% in Code S, which is only surpassed by Dream. It is TvT that has been his weakest matchup. Also, soO championship hangover confirmed | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 10 2019 00:01 NoS-Craig wrote: Good to see SoO managed to advance. Would be a shame to see him drop out after winning IEM. Are you sure he did? | ||
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Penev
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On March 09 2019 23:58 Nakajin wrote: Talk for you, I came second in a Katowice prediction pool betting everytime on soO You should've won that pool but alas there was one other going full soO? | ||
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
On March 10 2019 00:01 NoS-Craig wrote: Good to see SoO managed to advance. Would be a shame to see him drop out after winning IEM. I mean he's the best player in the world, clearly, after one tournament. It would be strange if he didn't, as the best player in the world, would it not. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 10 2019 00:45 Penev wrote: You should've won that pool but alas there was one other going full soO? Nah I got rob by one point because I also believed in Patience, heart did hurt me in the end, still I got a free announcer. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 10 2019 05:55 Nakajin wrote: Nah I got rob by one point because I also believed in Patience, heart did hurt me in the end, still I got a free announcer. Well look on the bright side...you got 2nd in the pool, truly a spiritual successor to soO | ||
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