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idk i have made about 20 posts why disformation is mafia. I am not going to quote his whole filter because his whole filter makes him mafia.
darthfoley is mafia because it's very bs he "scumreads" me (and rsoultin and Koshi) but only N1 actaully starts "pushing us" (or well says so -- he didn't actually push anything and even when we were arguing he talked to me like you talk to a townie) based on reasoning that was there all D1. Also the reasoning -- at least on me -- is shitty as hell. tldr; his scumreads are based on things that don't actually make people scum.
FF and Palmar basically need to be mafia because noone else is.
My 2c.
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I do not agree with Koshi being mafia.
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OK,
so your team is:
disfo + palmar + DF + FF
my team is:
Disfo + palmar + FF + Koshi
Fine, I will lynch Disfo, since thats a common element (or we could just lynch palmar  )
##Unvote
##Vote: Disfo
Now onto more important
Do you have any posts on why Koshi specifically is town (and dont say by PoE with others).
and to confirm one last time: you do not give RB claim any credence?
Regarding DF and the poor scum reads criteria. Remember that HF tried to get me lynched Day1 and was woefully wrong.
Like, i havent really read anything from DF so wont defend him other than he maintained activity Night2 (in a way that I think helped me + rsoultin) which I think was important. I dont see scum motivation for that, but can examine filter if needed.
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I think Koshi tried to pull the town together N! and D2, and while i hate it so fucking much he, like rsoultin misrepped me and what i did D1 i think it makes him town. There are also a couple of posts, like where he talks to you like you're town and then in the same post says scum probably have strongman or some other KP role (which is a retarded contradiction in case he is mafia). Actually his filter p3, the start of it is quite good, while i hate it for personal reasons.
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On March 27 2018 13:33 Mocsta wrote:
Regarding DF and the poor scum reads criteria. Remember that HF tried to get me lynched Day1 and was woefully wrong.
Like, i havent really read anything from DF so wont defend him other than he maintained activity Night2 (in a way that I think helped me + rsoultin) which I think was important. I dont see scum motivation for that, but can examine filter if needed.
df helped you in getting onto wrong track and you think it makes him town? ok.
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On March 27 2018 13:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2018 13:33 Mocsta wrote:
Regarding DF and the poor scum reads criteria. Remember that HF tried to get me lynched Day1 and was woefully wrong.
Like, i havent really read anything from DF so wont defend him other than he maintained activity Night2 (in a way that I think helped me + rsoultin) which I think was important. I dont see scum motivation for that, but can examine filter if needed. df helped you in getting onto wrong track and you think it makes him town? ok. did he. i havent re-read the discussion nor can i recall it.
i know the post you are talking about ksohi. its incoming in my filter dump about to be unveiled.
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P.S.
i dont agree he was trying to help
he was much helpful in vendee to consolidate.
i knwo because in both games i was part of what koshi was trying to band together.
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I dont see town shining through this??
On March 20 2018 23:23 Koshi wrote:
[...]
"Disfo scum for helping" Sticks by this read and tell heavily throughout Day1.
On March 21 2018 17:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 13:10 darthfoley wrote:
It's like if I said
"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"
Followed by an explanation of
"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "
The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.
Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy. The only thing you should expect is a letter from my lawyer demanding royalties. It is a good analogy though. If it is true and not about rsoultin which I suspect it is. Because I already said she was town. Exo is also town. Free read. Sick read on Ex0 who majority of thread read as town.
No insight unlike NK or myself towards that sick town read.
On March 21 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:
5 mafia would be unbalanced unless town has 3 protection roles so I am assuming 4 mafia.
If there are 5 mafia hosts fucked up. Or should asap change the amount of night kills. So if there are 5 mafia. Contact the hosts that their balance is potentially shit.
Remember mafia has members/2 night kills rounded up. So 4 makes a lot of sense. Calix is probably smart. Sick prediction for mafia team. Not a scumtell in isolation, but written very much in confidence.
Note the only 2 players to speculate with this much confidence is Ksohi + Palmar
On March 22 2018 03:40 Koshi wrote:
I really dont want to lynch anybody xcept disformation. All others are ok. And the fact somebody like nk still has r votes on him and I feel like he could get more still is suspicious enough. Well nai for disformation but telling for nk being town.
Mafia played lowkey and made decent posts most likely. LOL. sick read on NK & last paragraph almost written as matter of fact / tongue-in-cheek.
On March 22 2018 04:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 03:59 Vivax wrote:
So if I pretend ExO can't get lynched today:
Koshi, KSc, rayn, HF, rsoultin are probs mafia. For postgame. Impressive Vivax. That is somewhat my towncircle given some paranoia on rayn and mehish on HF. Same, dig @ Vivax with matter of fact / tongue-in-cheek. Guess what, all town them except Koshi. FU vivax too !
On March 22 2018 04:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 04:47 disformation wrote:
I also hate being blue. just as a random fyi. If you are blue spill it out so I can vote somebody else. I am not lynching any blue claim till I am sure it is mafia. With the back up role I take it mafia doesn't care about losing roles anyway. For someone that has been so cavalier all game, Koshi is now very explanatory with his unvote. SCUM TELL
On March 22 2018 08:13 Koshi wrote:
You guys fucked up.
RIP Rels.
I take no responsibility. Really shitting town post given this prior:
On March 22 2018 05:00 disformation wrote:
yo koshi: regardless if you want to lynch me now or not:
say I was not an option, who would be your #2, don't recall you having a second sr. On March 22 2018 05:14 Koshi wrote:Yeah I don't have one. So I will join the majority. Hmm. Veteran.. Pff. Maybe.
I am afk and will ninjavote later.
On March 23 2018 06:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Oh god i fucked up. Should have lynched df.  I like this comment. You are in the null category atm but this is good. first mention of DF, who is then a scum read in his list post.
On March 23 2018 08:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
My dying wishes:
If mocsta is town lynch ticktock 10/10 times. It's not a towny thought process to defend someone from a case before you read the case ever. It's ridiculous. Then he's trying to push me as mafia because I backed off nk....? Wtf is he even reading.
When you've done that you either kill Fecalfeast or he claims blue. Either or.
Don't let rsoultin slide away doing not much. Don't think she's having any usual impact. If I die one of the usual top town people looking people (not in this game) are mafia so look into rsoul/palmar/vivax/koshi etc.
Don't really agree with rayn on df fight but dude seems ok. Koshi seems ok. Slam not voting would be a dick move to team mates. Coag seal. Forget most people in this game really. Don't sleep on palmar, he's playing his mafia meta right now but I wanna see where it goes. Like the drive on nk. TT, fefe, Palmar are good names here. Palmar only on d3 I think. rayn vs df is a really annoying riddle. I think df is mafia and rayn can be. Even together. [...] interesting position to take.
On March 23 2018 08:32 Tictock wrote:
Odd Koshi knew there was gunna be 3 townies dead. Also feel weird he townreads me when I feel like I should probably be null at best for most people.
Eh I guess it would be a pretty weird scum slip to announce how much KP they have, on the other hand this is Koshi...
On March 23 2018 08:35 Koshi wrote:
Just like Mocsta I think we blocked 1 kp tbh. Mafia kp is 4/2=2 and I think they have either a vigi or strongarm. The balance seems fine this game. This is interesting quote. It could reinforce the town!RB, but Koshi never points this out as a crumb. So doesnt count now.
Further, the block on conversino doesnt really line up with his filter progression. yes, conversion is listed as scum; but hes definitely more interested in darthfoley.
Now, rsoultin cannot target the same player twice as JK & KP across the 2 nights is indicative of mafia limited to 2-KP.
Thus I find it very unlikely that she managed to block mafia from delivering KP 2 nights in row; more likely that she blocked a save on night 2, missed on night 1. Again, i think this points out to bullshit from koshi
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well. On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us...
His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why. To me, this progression is Koshi baiting DF to shit on Rayn and fan the fires.
On March 23 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am not reading a lot of posts tbh.
I'll read your filter later df. Hopefully what you say is true.
Palmar seems like a friend to town. At least we think alike.
I have like 6 names I could lynch today. At best there is 3 mafia in them. 1 mafia is probably within my townier people so that is why my townier people need to democratically vote within the 6. Highest chance to hit mafia. Dont only advocate for your own lynch. Think globally. Very flipfloppy on Palmar... interesting, no?
On March 23 2018 19:14 Koshi wrote:
##vote n00bKing
For somebody who put in effort you are not where the other people are who are putting in effort. You are not where rsoultin, Mocsta, Vivax or HF are. You made a post with 3 scumreads and I didnt feel excited about a single one.
Mistakes were made yesterday. Overly justified vote
Rest of filter after claim doesnt matter.
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On March 27 2018 13:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well anyways. i am doing the vayneauthority thing because no matter what i say will convince Mocsta or Tictock. Palmar is probably scum after all and i was initially wrong on him. I am only going to play for my own amusement which i have been doing since D1 after i got annoyed with Koshi.
There is no way to convince Mocsta because whoever disgrees with his reads is scum or "fuck you".
I don't even know what Tictock is saying right now, i have never sheeped Koshi, i have never sheeped Vivax, i have never even considered either of those things (except for disformation D1). Talking to him is like talking to a brick because apparently he's living in some la-la-land where things happened completely differently than they did in my game.
Unfortunately those two are town.
Other people are just useless or mafia.
I think this was all D2.
On March 23 2018 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 12:14 Tictock wrote:@ Rayn Can you explain to me why you ended up voting Rels? I noticed you never joined the Conversion wagon, which as far as I could tell from your filter was kus of this. On March 22 2018 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Conversion is going to flip town because there is absolutely no way both darthfoley and disformation are town. Yet you joined the Rels wagon very late Rels [7]: Mocsta, rsoultin, Mocsta, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, Conversion, darthfoley, n00bking, raynpelikoneet, ExO_ Colors should be representing Rayn's reads D1, unless I missed anything. I actually could not find a read on Exo. So I'm wondering why you felt uncomfortable lynching Conversion (who was a null read for you) because you felt two people on that wagon were mafia, but you joined the Rels wagon with 2 people you scumread. I could not find anything explaining why "rel's looks terrible" which is all I saw in your filter about him. This strikes me as odd as I know you two are quite familiar with each other and generally have some respect for each other's town game. I'm very surprised to see you vote with your scum reads on someone who is potentially a strong town player, without having very good reasons. You're misrepresenting the situation. I originally joined the Rels wagon because disformation lynch and noobking lynch weren't anymore on the table, the person i mostly wanted to lynch aka disformation voted for darthfoley, and i trusted rsoultin. At that point noone was voting for Rels other than rsoultin and Mocsta who i both townread. Slightly after that i decided that instead of rsoultin being right i am more likely to be right and switched back to darthfoley. I only switched back to Rels later on because there was actually quite high chance of him being scum, and i didn't want to lynch Mocsta or Conversion. Idk, i think that should be pretty easy to tell from my filter, even if you jsut read my filter and not the thread at all... That being said i think i am not going to play D2. I feel personally offended by Koshi saying i didn't do anything EoD when i defended all people i thought are town and tried to get people on who i think are mafia, not to mention our reads even align on that front aside from Conversion (albeit i don't really know what is Koshi's read on him rn). So good job, you can solve the game with your town circle. Also df caught me: Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 09:02 darthfoley wrote:
I've literally called his play underwhelming and boring as fuck multiple times. Have you read anything? Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 09:04 darthfoley wrote:
He votes Rels "because he looks terrible." Rayn usually posts a boring 4 page essay on people he votes for, so that's unusual Well, seems like i must be mafia whatever i do. Good read, you should all follow that. Gonna vote something at some point maybe, don't give any fucks where other votes are. Just follow Koshi, he can play the game byhimself and lead the town to victory.
Both those quoted bits,
On March 23 2018 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i am gonna go to work. You guys sheep Koshi he is town jesus and will solve the game with Vivax and Holyflare.
On March 25 2018 11:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi where are you?
All of this is you telling us to sheep Koshi or generally implying you heavily TR Koshi.
Yet:
On March 23 2018 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Oh i forgot. I will keep a list of this. Idk what other people read as big names but here's the list still: Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 06:24 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think he's been aggressive enough with the other big names. HolyflareVivax - although i have absolutely no idea why Vivax was shot here since this game he was never going to convince anyone of anything, at least alive. Probably medic dodge. Mocsta - i for once agree with Koshi here 100% Koshi - townread Palmar - townread rsoultin - townread rels - i am pretty sure df can't claim i wasn't being aggressive with Rels since i voted for him, twice. We will see if i would actually need to be aggressive with big names. So far looking pretty good for df, don't you think?
Koshi is just an unreasoned townread later on, but notice again here Ryan's read on Mocsta is based on Koshi. Which is actually literally a sheep of Koshi so 
As for Moosy I've brought this up multiple times:
On March 20 2018 15:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Moosy if youre around do you remember the name of the game where you cake and gb were mafia and bussed each other?
On March 20 2018 17:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 17:09 Holyflare wrote:
I also think moosy is scummy because the only person to "call him out" was exo and apparently he felt enough pressure/angst to vote himself off of that. Don't know whether I should listen to mafia moosy's post last game on whether he's reformed and base things off that or not though.
Was initially a town read for being happy but now not. I 100% disagree, I think Moosy is town.
On March 20 2018 17:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 17:17 Holyflare wrote:
2. Conversion
3. ExO_
5. Alakaslam
11. n00bking
13. Rels
15. Palmar
16. Fecalfeast
18. sicklucker
19. Koshi
20. MoosyDoosy
Shit list so far. Conversion and noob being there together bugs me but they're both independently scummy/off. I would remove FF and Moosy. Also possibly Koshi because regardless of if he is right or wrong on disformation i believe his read is genuine.
Lol, Rayn you literally Townread Moosy and Koshi in this post from pg 2 of your filter, and have really not mentioned them at all besides the other post there.
You made a list post in #875 that has Koshi as town, and is still has nothing to back it up. Moosy is listed as "i knew this guy couldn't play properly, and yes, retarded!strategy is a part of the former"
Like everytime I've asked you about your Moosy read we've gotten variations of "Kus I've gotten good at reading Moosy"
I told you guys,
Koshi/Rayn/Moosy is solid as shit in my mind right now.
There is so much association like this to back it up. I know unflipped association is kinda shit, but I do think is a large game associations tend to be more likely as there is more breathing room for scum to not feel pressured to bus and distance. Not that they wouldn't but given then nature of this game specifically scum have become PoE'd a lot faster than they were likely ready for.
This is actually our biggest advantage right now, Scum have become big fish in a pond shrinking very fast. This is why I've been advocating getting town solidly together in a good circle so that scum just literally have no place to hide.
It is also why we need every last town to make themselves readable or else we will always come down to a coinflip.
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See that's funny, Koshi claims df isn't talking about me at all at that point (which is correct), df says he has been calling me scum even before (which is incorrect -- proven by the "let me look at his filter" thingy). 
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On March 27 2018 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not agree with Koshi being mafia.
Can you explain why you like his claim?
And how in your mind a town!RB is more likely with 3 other Blues than a town!Vet?
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So titock is the dumbest person i nthis game, noted.
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You literally cannot fucking say SARCASTIC POSTS ABOUT KOSHI ARE "rayn is sheeping Koshi".
What a brick.....
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I also LITERALLY explained my read on Moosy IN THE NEXT FUCKING POST YOU QUOTED.
I am never going to play another game with you because you cannot even read, except for the posts that you want to fit your narrative.
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tictock,
interesting inconsistenies on rayn; but do they actualy push a scum agenda, or more gut-feelings?
like. i get having a town circle is nice, but it seems we cant even agree on who the lynch pool is, considering you dont seem to want a disfo or palmar lynch as per above.
i dont want a rayn or moosy lynch as the first scum wagon to fall.
+ coag is a complete coinflip too.
i wont bother asking you for feedback on my koshi notes, given we both scum raed him.
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Those aren't even inconsistancies. It's like me quoting a post from you where you say someone is town and then a post when you say they are mafia and tell that's an inconsistancy. See this is why i don't care Mocsta. Bye. Go lose the game.
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On March 27 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally cannot fucking say SARCASTIC POSTS ABOUT KOSHI ARE "rayn is sheeping Koshi".
What a brick.....
Sarcasm or no in some of the smaller posts...
You clearly TR Koshi for very little reason all over your D1 and D2 filter, he keeps showing up as town in posts and in lists.
I also literally found a townread of yours where you say "I am trusting Koshi here"
You really want to argue this?
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On March 27 2018 14:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:See that's funny, Koshi claims df isn't talking about me at all at that point (which is correct), df says he has been calling me scum even before (which is incorrect -- proven by the "let me look at his filter" thingy). I dont think this is a black or white answer.
I standby "To me, this progression is Koshi baiting DF to shit on Rayn and fan the fires."
Also note, HF was calling me mafia for yonks before it snowballed to a near lynch.
At no point during that did I call him mafia, or acknowledge his case either.
Like, just DF and you are "arguing" does not mean he has to think you are scum.
My main concern was that DF seemed happy to argue with you vs. doing something else productive in accordance with his filter. Now, you might fill the gaps to come to the conclusion being productive = following scum read, ergo rayn is DF scum read.
But that is precisely why this is fanning a burning fire.
I wrote it explicitly = town
Koshi wrote it vaguely = scummy to fill in blanks.
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##Unvote
##Vote: Koshi
tictock, looks like its just you + me
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On March 27 2018 14:14 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally cannot fucking say SARCASTIC POSTS ABOUT KOSHI ARE "rayn is sheeping Koshi".
What a brick..... Sarcasm or no in some of the smaller posts... You clearly TR Koshi for very little reason all over your D1 and D2 filter, he keeps showing up as town in posts and in lists. I also literally found a townread of yours where you say "I am trusting Koshi here" You really want to argue this?
And you can't find the difference between townread and sheeping.
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