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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 09:50 GMT
#861
I have this tell, about game mechanics specific to this
and .. i think the tell is SUPER unlikely to be applicable to mafia

So i thought it applied to FF, but i just double checked and I hate to say this.

ffs... it was a post by slam.

i dunno what to say, i cant consider a vote on him whatsoever this cycle and i dont want to go through the tell.
sorry
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 21 2018 09:53 GMT
#862
On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:
@NK, don't agree on conv

Which part? Do you mean I shouldn't hope for him to be helpful later? Or something else?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22011 Posts
March 21 2018 09:54 GMT
#863
On March 21 2018 18:48 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 18:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't want to start a counter wagon without knowing people were into it since it was so close to deadline. I saw sentiment there and pushed it hard.


On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.


How close to the deadline was it, when he "didn't want to start a counter wagon" in that first post? We're still more than 12 hours from the deadline, here. If it was no nearer the deadline than that, I guess you could have something there.


Some things are better kept a mistery, N00bking.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 09:55 GMT
#864
On March 21 2018 18:50 Mocsta wrote:
I have this tell, about game mechanics specific to this
and .. i think the tell is SUPER unlikely to be applicable to mafia

So i thought it applied to FF, but i just double checked and I hate to say this.

ffs... it was a post by slam.

i dunno what to say, i cant consider a vote on him whatsoever this cycle and i dont want to go through the tell.
sorry


...

dude

why do you break my heart?

anyway, @nk, agree on tt, not lynching him today
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22011 Posts
March 21 2018 09:56 GMT
#865
There's two types of volumes, when slam can't turn up one he'll turn up the other.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 21 2018 09:56 GMT
#866
On March 21 2018 18:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 18:48 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 18:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't want to start a counter wagon without knowing people were into it since it was so close to deadline. I saw sentiment there and pushed it hard.


On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.


How close to the deadline was it, when he "didn't want to start a counter wagon" in that first post? We're still more than 12 hours from the deadline, here. If it was no nearer the deadline than that, I guess you could have something there.

Some things are better kept a mistery, N00bking.

This don't seem to be one of those things.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 09:56 GMT
#867
On March 21 2018 18:53 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:
@NK, don't agree on conv

Which part? Do you mean I shouldn't hope for him to be helpful later? Or something else?


I have no idea if he'll be useful later or not? I'm just not going to remove him from my lynchpool on that basis alone when I see no reason to townread him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 10:00 GMT
#868
Okay, yeah, ykl's out of the lynch pool just reading his first few posts. Tonal, but super levelheaded and open about his thought process. My tinfoil theory is shit lol >< It's a bit less strong since he's fallen off, but I think I'm going to lump him with my Rayn gutread and reevaluate if the falling offedness continues.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 21 2018 10:04 GMT
#869
I have work to do but will be around before deadline.

Zerg for Life
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2018 10:05 GMT
#870
On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.

I guess that implies he looks less like last game now, despite doing the wall post thing?

though I kinda find it funny that nk berates tina for wanting to lynch slam with reasons she thinks other ppl wont get, while he hasn't posted why he wants to lynch myself. With a bunch of imagination I can guess why he might, but i'm going to bitch about it until he posts a reason.
also that he says town players should try to get their preferred target lynched, not seeing him exactly doing that either.

i am also in a bad mood cause there is no coffee to be had at work. how the fuck are they expecting me to do anyhting?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2018 10:05 GMT
#871
slam time
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 10:06 GMT
#872
FF stays on the list.

Not caring for his reads list, not caring for the lack of suspicion on hf/palmar...hf in particular. Unless I'm misremembering, hf is not someone he's prone to townread easily.

Only caveat is if he's scumreading noobking, he might find HF pushing him reason enough to put aside wariness of HF. So he's not up in the slam/palmar section.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22011 Posts
March 21 2018 10:11 GMT
#873
On March 21 2018 19:05 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.

I guess that implies he looks less like last game now, despite doing the wall post thing?

though I kinda find it funny that nk berates tina for wanting to lynch slam with reasons she thinks other ppl wont get, while he hasn't posted why he wants to lynch myself. With a bunch of imagination I can guess why he might, but i'm going to bitch about it until he posts a reason.
also that he says town players should try to get their preferred target lynched, not seeing him exactly doing that either.

i am also in a bad mood cause there is no coffee to be had at work. how the fuck are they expecting me to do anyhting?


It's pretty easy, just grab a beer instead.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2018 10:15 GMT
#874
And now I am going to pretty blatantly be a hypocrite and say that even though HF isn't all shiny for me, I'm also not seeing anything glaring that makes me think he could be scum. Tone tips it slightly towards town for me.

HF removed.

That leaves me with:

Palmar/Slam

Conversion, ff, sl

Hah!

I like that size much better. The chances that's the actual scum team is small, especially since Rels is just a ? and some of the other people in the not lynch list are there for light townreads, but I'm happy with that.

Although I do realize that means scum would be hardly playing. Then again, with these lynches lined up, if I'm right on at least those townreads, that's not all that unlikely really.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 21 2018 10:17 GMT
#875
My thoughts so far:

Town:

Holyflare
Mocsta
rsoultin
Vivax - prolly not gonna read much of what he posts from now on because everything sounds like a conspiracy theory but nevertheless it makes him town
KelsierSC - i don't know why there are votes on him, so terrible
Koshi
MoosyDoosy - i knew this guy couldn't play properly, and yes, retarded!strategy is a part of the former

I don't think i need to explain any other read of the above

Leaning town:
Palmar - i actually think Palmar is town here since he sounds townie and isn't doing any of the shit he usually does as mafia, basically i think he is genuinely trying to find mafia

Alakaslam - the feeling from the latest posts gave me more of a town feeling from Slam, then he placed a terrible vote on rsoultin but it is something his mind does when being attacked, and while absolutely stupid i know he has done the same thing to me multiple times so i can't read him anymore. Sorry rsoultin i disagree with you here, probably town and just go to ignore pile.

Null:
Rels
sicklucker

Tictock - i don't really remember anything he has posted and usually his posts strike me as super scummy -- i mean like in almost every game. He is just... uninspiring. Could be mafia or town, i don't know.
darthfoley - same as above, doesn't raise any feelings
Conversion - same
ykl - sameeeeeeeee.....

Leaning scum:
Fecalfeast - i tend to be quite terrible at reading FF when he is scum (aka i usually have him as town regardless of alignment:p ) but i havent seen any "this must be town FF" -posts here, i also cant understand how he could at the time read rsoultin town for "trying to solve game and posting a lot" and also have no clue what the thing on Slam is as it was what rsoultin had mostly talked about.
ExO_ - I still can't understand how someone can go read my filter and from there focus onto something i never even implied (regardless of what Kelsier said or didn't say) instead of the other thing he was mostly interested in the game so far (when my filter contained ONLY that, and an offhand comment on Kelsier/Mocsta). While i understand i might be wrong here i think the dude is lying.

Scum:
n00bking - I said this before and i will say it again. I think noobking sounds like teacher gave him an assignment and now he is trying to write a paper he doesn't want to write and trying really hard to reason his shit with scientific proof. I don't think this is how townies act like, he did the same thing last game (all that "this is what a TOWNIE does" jizz, and as Palmar caught the word "honestly" he used to scumread HF last game, and there was another thing but i don't have time to find it rn), i read his posts from Firefly where he was town and i don't get the same feeling from his posts at all. Then there is the retarded setup looks-like-i-wanna-dumbtell-myself-into-town post which is also exactly what he did last game. I don't think he is actually trying to look for mafia instead of trying to justify his reads in a way a townie doesn't work. So there is that. If someone cares to go read that and offer some thoughts on that it would be cool.

disformation - I trust Koshi here. I think disformation is a bland version of when he is town (when he irritates me a great deal with his blantant contradictions and wafflyness). Sure at first glance he looks the same here but i don't this is the same disformation.

So, let's make this interesting:
##vote disformation

--------------

For the record the next time someone uses "X wasn't around for some crap number of hours" and includes that as a reason to change a read or rethink or whatever i am gonna stop playing these 48h day phase games completely. This isn't directed towards anyone and i am not even sure if that's been done this game but some people have implied it. I don't like it, because there are people who work (and actually work and not sit on a fucking computer which isn't real work) 8-10 hrs a day and for that reason don't have the luxury of playing mafia at "work", and also have to value 8 hours of sleep at night.

I'm here for like 30 mins still and then back ~1-2hrs before the deadline. Gotta try to stay up then.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 10:18 GMT
#876
Why no palmar talk
Like his first post about koshi struck me

Felt like he already read the game before doing stream by consciousness
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2018 10:21 GMT
#877
Due to above 2 posts from blatant townreads I am obliged to say I think HF could easily be mafia this game.

"He doesnt look mafia" is an extremely bad heuristic to find mafia because it is literally the only thing mafia thinks about every time they press "Post".
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 21 2018 10:22 GMT
#878
On March 21 2018 19:18 Mocsta wrote:
Why no palmar talk
Like his first post about koshi struck me

Felt like he already read the game before doing stream by consciousness

Not sure if you are familiar with later years' Palmar but that isn't alignment indicative at all for him. He just OMGUSed Koshi because Koshi voted for him (aka "kill the player who is trying to kill me" -type of post).
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 21 2018 10:23 GMT
#879
On March 21 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:
"He doesnt look mafia" is an extremely bad heuristic to find mafia because it is literally the only thing mafia thinks about every time they press "Post".

No it isn't. Because mafia is not trying to look for mafia, and that usually shows. If that's what you meant.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 10:23 GMT
#880
On March 21 2018 19:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 19:18 Mocsta wrote:
Why no palmar talk
Like his first post about koshi struck me

Felt like he already read the game before doing stream by consciousness

Not sure if you are familiar with later years' Palmar but that isn't alignment indicative at all for him. He just OMGUSed Koshi because Koshi voted for him (aka "kill the player who is trying to kill me" -type of post).

Not familiar but i mean

You think he opened by filtering koshi and then reading game

Im not saying its scummy per say
But fucking strange??
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