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On March 27 2018 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also LITERALLY explained my read on Moosy IN THE NEXT FUCKING POST YOU QUOTED.
I am never going to play another game with you because you cannot even read, except for the posts that you want to fit your narrative.
Since I'm so dumb rayn you better point it out to me, but it had better be a better explanation than what I already noted.
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I townread Koshi, yes.
I sheeped Koshi, never after disformation.
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Don't care. Find it by yourself. I am tired of your bs.
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On March 27 2018 14:14 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally cannot fucking say SARCASTIC POSTS ABOUT KOSHI ARE "rayn is sheeping Koshi".
What a brick..... Sarcasm or no in some of the smaller posts... You clearly TR Koshi for very little reason all over your D1 and D2 filter, he keeps showing up as town in posts and in lists. I also literally found a townread of yours where you say "I am trusting Koshi here" You really want to argue this?
the pre-flip associations going on in my head are:
Koshi + Rayn is a team, given how try-hard and biased Rayn is playing to derail this.
The problem then is Disfo is town as the counter-wagon.
I dont believe Disfo is town due to 3 blues.
If there realy was a vet, I would be expecting a strongman.. so why hasnt this been shot?
No way rsoultin blocked it twice, cos she cant RB the same person 2 nights in a row.
NK dont line up with a strongman.
hence, fake claim. hence scum...
i just dont see a world where koshi + rayn + disfo is scum.
im still certain palmar is scum too in any combinatino (same with koshi)
tictock, are my heuristics flawed; or do you see what im seeing?
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On March 27 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
tictock,
interesting inconsistenies on rayn; but do they actualy push a scum agenda, or more gut-feelings?
like. i get having a town circle is nice, but it seems we cant even agree on who the lynch pool is, considering you dont seem to want a disfo or palmar lynch as per above.
i dont want a rayn or moosy lynch as the first scum wagon to fall.
+ coag is a complete coinflip too.
i wont bother asking you for feedback on my koshi notes, given we both scum raed him.
They def push a scum agenda if they are all scum, yes.
I know I feel like Coag and FF are both basically coinflips right now, hence my post to them a few pages ago.
Why are you resistant to Rayn or Moosy?
Like, why are you more willing to lynch potential blue!Koshi or blue!Dis?
My honest to god gut scumteam right now is Koshi/Rayn/Moosy/Mocsta
Simply because I feel like you keep taking left turns with your direction and reads that make no sense to me.
I am also never lynching Disformation simply due to who has voted him today and how Koshi initially targeted him as he claimed. Dis feels like the scum's planned lynch today as a final fuck you to town getting us to lynch another blue.
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dude, its funny.
every game, townies never know whom mafia is and as they solve the game, their reads will change.
mafia can be much more consistent and adjust to game-state.
like, everytime you say you dont like me; is precisely why im town. I dotn actually KNOW who scum is and its fuckn LYLO and fuckn the lurkers are not wagoning on Koshi.. so its arse-twitching.
You are actually doing the same thing as me, so just shut up and accept im town ffs.
dude. im not resistant to rayn or moosy, its more, in lylo with 4/4 scum players left, i want to hit the highest percentage chance.
That is Koshi or Disformation or Palmar to a lesser extent.
Everyone else is lower percentage, and honestly, not worth investing time in discussing.
frankly, that has not been wishy-washy all cycle.
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On March 27 2018 14:20 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2018 14:14 Tictock wrote:On March 27 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally cannot fucking say SARCASTIC POSTS ABOUT KOSHI ARE "rayn is sheeping Koshi".
What a brick..... Sarcasm or no in some of the smaller posts... You clearly TR Koshi for very little reason all over your D1 and D2 filter, he keeps showing up as town in posts and in lists. I also literally found a townread of yours where you say "I am trusting Koshi here" You really want to argue this? the pre-flip associations going on in my head are: Koshi + Rayn is a team, given how try-hard and biased Rayn is playing to derail this. The problem then is Disfo is town as the counter-wagon. I dont believe Disfo is town due to 3 blues. If there realy was a vet, I would be expecting a strongman.. so why hasnt this been shot? No way rsoultin blocked it twice, cos she cant RB the same person 2 nights in a row. NK dont line up with a strongman. hence, fake claim. hence scum... i just dont see a world where koshi + rayn + disfo is scum. im still certain palmar is scum too in any combinatino (same with koshi) tictock, are my heuristics flawed; or do you see what im seeing?
Yea, why is 4 blues a problem?
Vet is passive, Tracker is investigative, Vig is investigative but limited and swingy, JK is strong.
In a 20 player game with Scum roles totally unknown...
This seams legit.
I do admit 5 blues is a little sus, and adding a RB to that list makes basically no sense.
You also need to convince me that Palmar is scum as he is one of the most left field scum reads given how Rayn is playing right now. I don't think there is more than one scum in Palmar/Rayn.
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totally agree on one scum within palmar/rayn
and i dont think its relevant to make a case on palmar.
not, cos i dont want to for you.
but because, whats the point? Hes not a primary lynch today, and I could do it @ night phase if we make it.
whats wrong with 4 blues. i said it above.
i expect it to be paired with a strongman... (which I know is a leap).. and to me, the Night Kills do not suggest mafia have addition KP.
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like tictock. i dont know what you want from me.
im sorry to say this, but this feels like me taking to vivax all over again.
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Mocsta it may not always look like it but I am very much trying to see town in anyone's posting right now.
But we are at the point where if our headspace is so off like me and you are on lynching Dis right now then I can't help but feel you are possibly scum.
My town right now is very much so:
DF, Dis, Palmar
You are a claimed Blue.
FF and Coag are coinflips.
Which literally leaves me a pool of Rayn/Koshi/Moosy
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On March 27 2018 14:35 Mocsta wrote:
like tictock. i dont know what you want from me.
im sorry to say this, but this feels like me taking to vivax all over again.
Appeasing me is exactly the approach I expect scum to take here.
I notice Moosy is the only one with the brass to actually try to call me scum at this point, even though it's super weak.
I'm not here to tell you how to play Mocsta, I'm just telling you what I think.
Also I need to get to bed, so peace.
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dude.
i wrote poorly about coag
hes not a coin flip.. the seal makes him town.
im saying COAG VOTE is a coinflip
like to me, this whole game is a waste of time. so much effort for what?
the deciding vote will always be COAG.
my reads align with rsoultin.
I thought you were aligned that way night2.
as mentioned, my only care is whether we make it to night 3.
Lynch highest % scum.
that is koshi.. like what more is there to discuss.. other than rayn trying his hardest to derail this.
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On March 27 2018 14:40 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2018 14:35 Mocsta wrote:
like tictock. i dont know what you want from me.
im sorry to say this, but this feels like me taking to vivax all over again.
Appeasing me is exactly the approach I expect scum to take here. I notice Moosy is the only one with the brass to actually try to call me scum at this point, even though it's super weak. I'm not here to tell you how to play Mocsta, I'm just telling you what I think. Also I need to get to bed, so peace. how am i appeasing you
go to bed and re-read this. you are being excessively paranoid.
you and I are the only two people in this game that actually care about the game.
we are both town.
moosy calling you scum IS STUPID. you are town for caring. case closed. ffs
have a good sleep.
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tictock
this is my understanding of the game-state
night2, a bunch of people did not contribute.
after the NKs, suddenly 10 pages move with mainly banter => shitting the thread to lose focus.
contributers to this are koshi, disfo, palmar
like. im really at an impasse here.
if you cant read me, thats my fault and i take ownership of that, and will aim to define my reads better.
Like, this shitting the thread is *REALLY* important.
we dont have to solve the game today, we just need to lynch the highest % scum and keep it going.
then solve the game during the night.
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Because its important.
On March 26 2018 07:58 rsoultin wrote:If I Die Before I Wake Koshi 100% scum. All you need to see that is reading his posts post-flip. Too happy about players getting themselves modkilled, the comment about Slam, etc. Add to that his complete lack of influence on the game. *Palmar 98% scum. I lied  The way he delurked on weekend to attack n00bking both when NK first brought up the contradiction in his perception of blue claims, and when NK claimed blue, is not only opportunistic but counter to how Palmar normally plays weekends as town. Which is to say, he doesn't. Moreover, it was a classic strawman argument that he made. Namely, that he was saying he didn't push it as he should in the last game so NK was lying. But obviously he 1) did push it with just a few minutes left to go and 2) if he saw it as a mistake he's more likely to try to get such blue claims lynched harder in the future. A strawman argument, given Palmar, doesn't make him scum normally but I'd say it almost certainly does when he makes it seriously. If I get nk'd tonight, he's also probably the reason. Though, to be fair, I probably was going to get NK'd regardless of the scum team. Also, his reactions after the flips were only slightly better than koshi's. (sorry, rayn. I did find your point plausible, I just don't think he thinks people are going to go digging up old games to see if his approach to the game on that specific point line up. And I actually think it makes disfo a bit more likely to be scum, as well) Moosy 90% scum. I think there's an eentsy beentsy chance I'm just expecting too much of him. I think he's hoping to bank on Rayn's read and a general perception that he's just a trolly, useless player. To me, he never has been. And because I don't want to call him useless or anything if I happen to be wrong here, I'm just going to say this would have to be a very off game for him given the Moosy I remember, to reduce his game post flips to blind associations everywhere and little interaction with other players. disformation 60% scum. Wasn't lying about saying fuck it regarding filters. So this is more feels and intuition based off his play in vendee where he was pretty on the ball and off doing whatever he wanted and dumping analysis into the thread. Here it's less like he's poking into things and finding things that interest him, but rather being led by the nose where to sniff. I don't mind waffling when I can see people have points in favor and points against that they want to express to show what's making them unsure. With him, though, there's just too many posts where he talks without really saying anything, like his read on Moosy. That's a different kind of waffle. Caveat is yeah, I'm basing this off two games and confirming he can be active as fuck as scum. FF 55% town. Putting him at a slight townread because of how he interacted with me at EoD 2. It just seemed very open and honest, like a puppy ;o; This is obviously a very weak read and if I'm wrong on anyone it's probably him and one of disfo/moosy (more likely disfo than moosy). DF, TT, rayn and Mocsta are always town here (even though I'd love for Mocsta to be our friendly neighborhood SK ;o;). You can of course disagree. But I still stand by my scum probably has next to no motivation to play when the game could probably literally end tonight. Rayn's outburst I don't think ever comes from scum for reasons I've already said. Coag...if this is the game man, kudos?
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NO BEARING ON THE GAME:
Excellent sleep aid. Bar none so far.
+ Show Spoiler +
Will put it in my drunk stimey d okmg fish thread.
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I don't blame myself for Rels lynch.
Other than that i have only voted for mafia.
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On March 22 2018 07:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 06:59 Vivax wrote:
So, in rough order of current confidence the mafia guesses are:
High tier:
HF
KSC
Koshi
Medium tier:
Rsoultin
ExO
Low Tier:
Rayn (maybe he's just being bad but that HF townread really doesn't sit right with me, also he didn't start a shitfight with any of the big names yet)
I'm wrong on 1-2 depending on the final amount of mafia. I salute you town. So... none of your top three are gonna happen (unfortunately about KSC). Where's your head at for the vote? Interesting post to note if Koshi flips red.
kinda scary DF has an unmemorable 15page filter.
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On March 23 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So apparently, aside from what i just said, darthfoley thinks i am mafia because i haven't called "strong players" mafia. That is super bs reason to call anyone scum because by default there should be no assumption that any of the "strong players" are even mafia over other people.
Has df called any of the "strong players" mafia? No, he just dislikes me and rsoultin for bs reasons. Tell me df, which of the strong players have you called mafia aside from me now (which honestly seems to be pure omgus because the reasoning is just completely invalid). Depends on who you consider "strong players." I've thought HF and Vivax were townie since early on. I've consistently been suspicious on you and rsoultin. I've ignored Koshi until recently but I'm not particularly impressed by his play. I haven't read his filter individually, but he can be considered somewhat scummy. He's been super detached from the game imo Quote above has more significance when looking @ this.
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Tictock do you seriously believe rayn, who has infamously mislynched me many times in the past and tunneled the shit out of me countless times is my mafia scumbuddy here because he hard townread me early?
lmfao okay dude
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