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I tried to talk about this earlier in my filter.
I understand Onegu finding it interesting that I hadn't mentioned Fidei because he was tunneled on Fidei. It's totally different for someone who didn't pay any attention to Fidei or say anything about Fidei to try to use Onegu to preface an attack on me.
If I had known that Fidei was scum on day 1 and that Ritoky had said that I would have called him on it.
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anyways i have outlined why i think he is mafia. if people disagree then tell me where i am wrong; especially on the point of how he claims hf is mafia for not sharing his fid read, but then later claims his read wasn't strong. i got shit to do irl and will hopefully be back before i leave for work.
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On June 09 2017 07:29 beentheredonethat wrote: grack is never scum here forgetting fidei in his list post is a town tell. you don't forget your teammates. you simply don't.
I'm super sure grack is town and the more happens, the more I am certain. well good night now
forgetting a team mate is something that has happened quite a lot
and also I don't get what problem there is
fidei flips mafia, ritoky reads why fidei lynched and sees onegu post and likes post about grack because it's related to a flipped mafia and then finds more info
why is that such a problem??
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On June 09 2017 07:29 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 09 2017 07:25 Grackaroni wrote:On June 09 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote:On June 09 2017 07:14 Grackaroni wrote: Clearly something set me off about Ritoky's mention of the Onegu post or I wouldn't have made my framing post as soon as I saw it. That's townie reaction not "justification after the facts" which is too obscure of an argument for me to really refute. yes but he made that post pulling out things that seemed contradictory and then YOU DID THE SAME THING with his lack of fidei quotes and called him scummy because of it???? BECAUSE HE MADE THE QUOTE. what quote??? Show nested quote +On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote: Ok here is my problem with BH and his RNG lynch.
BH does this every game. Him posting a RNG lynch is NAI for him. But with this set up I think he could have hit 2 different people vivax or someone 2 slots above or behind him depending on where BH wanted to put the newbies. He does post starting with conversion first. Meh maybe Im thinking to much about this.
But seriously how do people not know this is what BH does. RNG first is always his first thing....
Tumblewood coming in with the attitude was really weird also. Then he calls out tube for focusing on the only thing that happend in the thread at that point, because he calls BH rng nothing... TW gets scum points.
@PrisonBreak. What is the difference between a RNG vote and a RNG lynch. IMO they are the same thing. Both give zero info. I would say a RNG lynch gives more info because you see who went along with it when a RNG vote gives you nothing because it is just one person.
Town points to Vivax seeing the same thing on TW. To bad we are lynching Vivax... Scum points to Vivax for bitching about Grack posting but not being around. Thats not a scum tell. Good thing we are lynching vivax.
Fword dude gets scum points for the calling out of people who posted in the thread but didnt actually comment on things. This is just bitching and not actual scum hunting.
LS comments on things with no relevant meaning <3 LS
PrisonBreak calling out Fword dude. PrisonBreak getting town points.
Fword dude defending his stance. Scum
BTDT calling out the newbie. Im a bit meh on it as I actually like PB thoughts. NAI on BTDT though.
Fword dude agreeing with BTDT- Yeah I think FWord dude is scum.
Everything HF is posting is completely forgettable even though I am still reading it. HF town.
Ritoky also forgettable and boring...
Conversion makes a large post that says nothing except he wants to learn how to catch mafia. Really a bleh post.
Ritoky makes a good post on BTDT. But dislike Fword dude more than BTDT for scum.
BH third post isnt pushing is RNG lynch, but his fourth is. Kinda odd he doesnt tack on at the end of his third post that vivax is scum. But NAL.
Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...
Fword dude calls out the other newbie...
Love me some PB. Like his posts. I doubt I will ever vote him.
Tumble wanting to lynch BH out of nowhere. BLeh
Agree with HF, would lynch Tumble.
BH drops his Vivax for grack to easy imo... Like BH even I dont know how your RNG works, I just assume its right and you do it. But if I started questioning things I am sure they would be wrong. The grack vote here seems really odd.
2 pages of BH and Grack arguing about RNG and how it works shoot me now...
Tubesock makes a great post on the newbies. HF calls this post out for being good. Town for both of them.
@Tubesock I am here and I just posted it in thread as I read this thread a write a stream of thoughts on this post.
Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 05:15 ritoky wrote:but TW's top town read is BH....and his lynch list is HF cuz of omgus, LS for being LS/omgus, and onegu for being low hanging fruit. he didn't even respond to any of 1gu's post which actually had a gem in it: On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote: Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...
idk i just feel like TW is super peripheral this game. he doesn't engage with what is actually goes on, stays floating on the edges and doesn't take a stand for very much since he got burned right away. don't really think first 30 min vibes paint over the rest of his day phase. Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:04 ritoky wrote:On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote: Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...
i still like this too. maybe i should read gracks filter that one.
why is your second post about TW and quoting onegu's read about grack?
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I think some of Ritoky's accusations are fine.
I thought Fidei was town earlier in the day because he was pestering me for reads in a way that I thought would be coming from a townie. That impression wore off over time and I can agree with that being scummy.
I clearly was sheeping Tumblewood from like Onegu to PB to Fidei and for some reason he interprets that as me having a boner for PB. Maybe a misunderstanding. Maybe purposely misconstrued.
Then there are other things that are fluffed up nonsense that I think he says because he thinks they sound good rather than because he thinks they are good. Making snap conclusions and then justifications to suit my narrative is one of them, since what mafia plays like that?
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Good response from beentheredonethat on page 98
Reconsidering my scumread on him
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I'm having an issue of whothefuckismafiaitis.
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On June 09 2017 06:05 Conversion wrote: I wrote some thoughts down today without editing or whatever so I guess I'll post it here.
players alive: BTDT Grack ritoky Holyflare Blazinghand Prison Break LightningStrike Tumblewood Me!
BH/HF dies, or after N2 and someone else dies:
Tumblewood:
Need Tumblewood to “claim” who he saved. Was he RB’d again? Typical setup I assume includes a Mafia RB with a doctor—although, could he be scum saying he got “RB’d” to get a free townie pass? Brags about how good he is at mafia, flies under the radar, names people for an optimal lynch, but just hides under his doctor claim and really does nothing.
Pretty shaky at best if doc/RB doesn’t exist (I have no idea how setups work, so yell at me if I'm being stupid pls), when do we stop giving him a free pass because of his doctor claim, or do we just buy into him being doctor and not contributing to the game with his godly mafia skillz (self-proclaimed)
BH/HF:
Whichever one of BH/HF dies I’m inclined to look into, as both are pretty much in control of town’s direction and information. Very strong possibility of them working together for an endgame by establishing themselves as town leaders (although might be unlikely with the Fidei lynch.. although HF and BH both were not at the beginning of that wagon. this is a speculation at best I’d need to flesh it out more as BH pushed Fidei iirc)
Good possibility of TW-BH/HF team as well. Doctor claim could have been instrumented.. idk this is getting pretty tin foil hatty so I’ll stop
BTDT and PB might be just two townies bickering at each other at who is more scummy. TBH I’m not really suspicious of either of them. PB isn’t actively pushing for anything except replying to BTDT and BTDT is just tunneling in on PB. Not sure(?) why he’s not pursuing anyone else if there’s five people on his list, but eh.
Between these two I’m still more wary of BTDT, but his play seemed much better D2? Still flashes of his D1 “I’m insulted and I’m going to rage” in his last few posts, but honestly dude push other people than PB. You two are shitting up the thread by bickering with each other like HF and Vivax usually did. Push me, push LS, push anyone else on your list and stop quitting halfway through when people argue back. Why do you quote your list of 5 people that are unsure, go “this is a good list” and then not do anything but tunnel on PB for like 10 posts?
Tubesock is still my top town read.
Grack I still have no idea how to read. Lots of jokes, questions, a back and forth with ritoky, jabs here and there, more jokes. shrug. wants to lynch between me and ritoky and I’m town soo what makes me scummy and worthy of a D3 lynch Grack? How about ritoky? especially if you mislynch D3 you’re at LYLO (3 town 2 mafia, is LYLO, right?), assuming TW gets "roleblocked" again and we don't save anyone.
LS just seems lazy.. or doesn’t care as much. I know I stopped caring about D2 basically because game was unfun and I left it to grind other games. hopefully he’ll say more once we get the NK info and on D3.
I want to believe ritoky is town but I might just be biased because he guided me to make reads and helped me make attempts to contribute with reads, but his posts since then have been less than good.
Honestly after N2 I want to hone in on whatever TW is doing because it’s not much (if he’s not dead). I’m not sure why he’s being so inactive if being RB’d means he gets to live and make a lot of good townie plays with him not being NK’d if Mafia are just content. Whoever dies between BH/HF might be scum, but seems a little far-fetched, imo.
I may be wrong on both my scumreads
If btdt vs me is town vs town, then conversion gets major town points for pointing it out, because trying to get one killed means the other will follow after the townflip. I rule out: conversion scum BTDT town.
Both could still be scum
But I'm starting to wonder if both could be town as well
This post seems townie
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On June 09 2017 07:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm having an issue of whothefuckismafiaitis.
This x 100
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I'm gonna lynch prison break because only bad guys need to break out of prison.
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I have no scumreads I'm going to look into grack vs ritoky again or people such as LS although I remember townie things
Almost every player had done something to make me townread them - any chance both scum bussed Fidei or something? That would explain a lot
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On June 09 2017 07:53 Holyflare wrote: I'm gonna lynch prison break because only bad guys need to break out of prison.
Did you watch prison break
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yeh I saw criminals breaking out of prison
mafia scum!
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On June 09 2017 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote: (but then again, the onegu kill was already super weird) why
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You watching the UK elections?
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On June 09 2017 07:56 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote: (but then again, the onegu kill was already super weird) why
see this guy making the night kills
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On June 09 2017 07:56 Grackaroni wrote: You watching the UK elections?
of course
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On June 09 2017 07:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 07:56 Blazinghand wrote:On June 09 2017 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote: (but then again, the onegu kill was already super weird) why see this guy making the night kills
no like in my view onegu was a natural choice, right? he lead the fidei wagon and was universally townreaded. why is it weird that he was killed?
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cos I'd kill someone that posts a lot or the blue guy
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On June 09 2017 07:02 ritoky wrote:btdt mafia cuz: - his logic is backwards for a townie. he instantly snap makes conclusions, then seeks out justifications; read his defense of vivax, or his accusation of me. he post-fact creates a narrative to suit his conclusion.
- he states that HF is mafia for not sharing his read that fidei is town, but then after fidei is mafia he says "he had no strong read on fidei". if his read was not strong, then why was HF mafia for not sharing his read?
- he tried to have the shennanies land on PB, not fid. if you go look at the timings, the only vote on fid is 1gu, then he goes to place his vote on PB and try to steer votes there. while he is typing this, tubesock and TW vote on fid. after his post, he immediately "sheeps TW" on fid and rescinds basically all mention of PB other than 1 post in which he says "i had a bunch of people i don't care about and you were one of them"
- he claimed to have thoroughly read my filter, when he made a "case" on me, but was magically unaware that the thing he found me primarily suspicious for was something i had said 48 hours prior and he didn't think shit about it then.
- his defense of vivax came from a place that made absolutely 0 sense and reeked of TMI
Ok this is a strong case
But grack is playing pretty townie outside of this, moreso than others, or so you disagree with that?
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