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On December 27 2016 20:36 disformation wrote:
tbh I should probably read slam again too
Can you comment on my finding I posted eaelier
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K I'm leaving going to a restaurant with family. See you when I get back!
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On December 27 2016 20:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 20:36 disformation wrote:
tbh I should probably read slam again too Can you comment on my finding I posted eaelier
Thats kinda my main prob with Slam: hes just not here 90% of the time.
But yeah. Would have LOVED for him to comment on that.
I think at the time Kmatt still had like all the votes, so that waws the only real wagon...
then again D1 Slam didnt give a shit about just throwing out a rather dead vote on me.
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Rels
- starts being very waffly on me and ExO_
- LS super town for very little (other did the same)
- Defends me into scumreading me, after noticing he misread. Why does he apparently not scumread me for:
On December 20 2016 19:33 Rels wrote:K I was wrong. Still I'm fucking annoyed at the fucking negativity I received. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 07:59 disformation wrote:Alright fair enough. With majority lynch in mind, we probably have to consolidate on ExO_ regardless. Unless he comes back with some really good stuff. While we are at good stuff: @Rels: Hey, psst. Yeah, you. You look like the type. Got any of those: + Show Spoiler + This is bad since he has no read on ExO but is OK to lynch him multiple posts
I would :D
Calls me "suspicious" later. Waffle. Actually I was like super near bottom on his read list before all that happened. So I am kinda confused why he didnt want me lynched over ExO_.
- Then the double mind meld with SL happens.
- Random sidenote: what happened with:
On December 21 2016 19:18 Rels wrote:
Slam is pretty townie in this interaction with HF post flip
- Drunk posts happen N1
- case on me
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On December 23 2016 10:02 Rels wrote:
which_ means it's disfo and Slam. Or LS ? I needed to check something on LS
Not sure if this part happened: @Rels was that supposed to be post #1308 ?
- Rels ignores:
On December 23 2016 10:12 Holyflare wrote:I think it might be real................................
votes kmatt like 20mins later
Some conclusions n shit:
- looks very suspicious by vca alone. votes dont lie
- Focused on a few ppl. Has mentions of most here and there, but pretty eh ish. Example: not much on LS at all.
- Focus on me for whatever reason all game long. waffle into defending into suspicion into case. Can indicate mafia agenda, esp in a game where ML are hard to get. hint for scum: if you want to ML me, do it early.
- Also constantly brings bad meta on me, but thats probably karma for me getting ExO_'s meta wrong.
- Because of these it doesnt really feel like he is playing the game on towns side. At all.
- The drunk post were pretty horrible as either alignment, too.
- The mindmeld with SL? Rels just accepted the mindmeld with thanks. Easy pocket easy game.
more detailed post on VCA coming up
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Rels - VCA details
D1 ExO_
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually. He's explaining this "Koshi and Kmatt should find disfo scummy BUT THEY DONT" so much, it looks like scum that have a reasonning and want to prove at all cost that the reasonning is logical 'cause they think it's gonna make them townie. And at the same time he's not really pushing Koshi/Kmatt, just explaining his logic over and over. This is maybe the 6th post on the subject: Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot for the life of me fathom how someone can say people are suspicious for not pushing a non-suspicious person. Why is disinfo not-suspicious? My logic is this: Koshi/Kmatt think I'm scum Disinfo immediately tries to deflect the thread away from kmatt's scum reading of me Therefore if Koshi/Kmatt are really town, who really think I'm scum, they should at least be questioning disinfo
On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. He's fighting very differently from the last game I played with him; in that one he OMGUSd every player that pushed him. Here he stated a reason for suspecting Koshi and Kmatt and repeated it over and over. Actually it makes up for like half of his filter: Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 01:44 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:43 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 01:34 ExO_ wrote:
so somehow koshi/kmatt are going to come into the thread, scum reading me for some stupid ass reason. kmatt ignores my comment about him buddying, as any scum would. and both koshi/kmatt ignore disinformation pseudo defending me. If I'm scummy, why isn't disinfo scummy too hmm koshi/kmatt? Okay looking back I misread you the first time, thought you meant I was buddying with LightningStrike by conversing. Still not really buddying with Sicklucker, it was LS who was having a hard time understanding the comment so there's no harm in explaining it to him. My bit about "being in this thread together" refers to the fact that SL could very easily answer these questions himself. And Disinfo not immediately agreeing with me doesn't make him scum. Being this invested in your own innocence and pointing fingers at us for having the audacity to doubt you is scummy. If you were really town you'd be proving it by lynching scum, not throwing shade because we're scumhunting. Disinfo didn't immediately agree with you, he disregarded your case by saying im not a morning person. Are you reading the same thread as I am? Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. O rly? Can you explain why? I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy. Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence. I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Why? Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie. If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
Then why the fuck are you angry at mafia calling you mafia? What possible reason is there for you to be tilted that he's playing his alignment?
What I'm saying is and what you've now confirmed is you're getting tilted by someone doing a shit play when it's their literal job to do that. It doesn't make sense at all. What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people. Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
So you think he's mafia for a bull shit vote
You get tilted regardless
You think disformation isn't suspicious
You push koshi and kmatt as suspicious for not finding disfo suspicious
You say that you are implying they are mafia
You say they might not be mafia and you might be wrong
Is that a fair summary? Can you explain why they should be suspicious of disformation? I'm about 100% sure koshi voted you for being angry at kmatt playing the game instead of some circular deflection logic.
Why does that make them suspicious instead of disformation ACTUALLY being suspicious? Like in a world where you're town you're saying 2 mafia/towns should find someone deflecting off a town you suspicious so why aren't you calling disformation suspicious at all?? I don't agree with your assessment of why Koshi "voted" me. Let Koshi speak for Koshi. I wasn't angry at Kmatt for playing the game, I was angry at being immediately OMGUSed, and I don't think it makes any sense for Koshi to vote me based on that. They should be suspicious of disinformation because he brushed off anything kmatt was trying to say about me being scum and tried to move the conversation elsewhere. If I'm scum, and disinfo is immediately trying to move the conversation elsewhere, it should be suspicious. What I'm implying is by not even saying anything about disinfo they are acting suspiciously, and looks scum-indicative to me. I know I'm town. So in order for me to find disinfo suspicious I have to think that he's ignoring what kmatt said about me not because he thinks its bad (which is the obvious conclusion in my mind) but becuase he's mafia just wanting to skirt by. That's not impossible I guess, but I don't think its nearly enough to scum read him for. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot for the life of me fathom how someone can say people are suspicious for not pushing a non-suspicious person. Why is disinfo not-suspicious? My logic is this: Koshi/Kmatt think I'm scum Disinfo immediately tries to deflect the thread away from kmatt's scum reading of me Therefore if Koshi/Kmatt are really town, who really think I'm scum, they should at least be questioning disinfo Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:39 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On December 20 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
So you think he's mafia for a bull shit vote
You get tilted regardless
You think disformation isn't suspicious
You push koshi and kmatt as suspicious for not finding disfo suspicious
You say that you are implying they are mafia
You say they might not be mafia and you might be wrong
Is that a fair summary? Can you explain why they should be suspicious of disformation? I'm about 100% sure koshi voted you for being angry at kmatt playing the game instead of some circular deflection logic.
Why does that make them suspicious instead of disformation ACTUALLY being suspicious? Like in a world where you're town you're saying 2 mafia/towns should find someone deflecting off a town you suspicious so why aren't you calling disformation suspicious at all?? I don't agree with your assessment of why Koshi "voted" me. Let Koshi speak for Koshi. I wasn't angry at Kmatt for playing the game, I was angry at being immediately OMGUSed, and I don't think it makes any sense for Koshi to vote me based on that. They should be suspicious of disinformation because he brushed off anything kmatt was trying to say about me being scum and tried to move the conversation elsewhere. If I'm scum, and disinfo is immediately trying to move the conversation elsewhere, it should be suspicious. What I'm implying is by not even saying anything about disinfo they are acting suspiciously, and looks scum-indicative to me. I know I'm town. So in order for me to find disinfo suspicious I have to think that he's ignoring what kmatt said about me not because he thinks its bad (which is the obvious conclusion in my mind) but becuase he's mafia just wanting to skirt by. That's not impossible I guess, but I don't think its nearly enough to scum read him for. But disformation finds your deflections scummy and has even said so. Why can't he be mafia avoiding a town vs town conflict because that's not what he wants to push or get into? He's just throwing minor accusations around and "doesn't want to make a comment on it yet" which is the exact response I'd expect of a mafia skating by. I'd expect you to be pushing this exact point. I'm gonna let you slide for now because there's always room for improvement. Make a stance on people please with indicative terms like mafia/town/null. That would be useful. At the time when I first posted, disinfo hadn't mentioned anything about finding me scummy. My initial reasoning for why they should find disinfo scummy stems from his initial post, not his posting after that. When you are asking me to explain my reasoning I can't just retroactively add in information to my posts that I didn't have at the time. And come off your high horse. "there's always room for improvement" blah blah blah. Shit like that just pisses me off [/b][/b]
On December 20 2016 09:20 Rels wrote:
##Vote ExO_
On December 21 2016 07:09 Rels wrote:Not over exo
On December 21 2016 07:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:09 Rels wrote:On December 21 2016 06:56 Koshi wrote:
Maybe we lynch the Slamfish? Not over exo Who do we lynch over Exo? nobody
On December 21 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:15 Rels wrote:On December 21 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:13 Rels wrote:On December 21 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 21 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Like... What has mafia ExO been doing? The guy is not stupid.
What was his plan? Feel bad for his team mate and do a last ditched attempt to not get lynched? Pfff. Didn't feel like it. Why would he be angry at HF and scumreading him at the same time if he's town ? Because he is town and being lost. His best post in the thread was about disinfo and LS being mafia. then he voted HF ? That doesn't make any sense Look dude. If you are mafia and play with a mafia buddy you enter the thread with an exit plan. Exo did not do that. Exo also replied to a lot of people quickly and made some insightful comments. (now those comments were kinda horrible because it seems like he didn't even read the thread carefully, but that is totally NAI) What was mafia ExO doing? And with who is he mafia? Either his buddy is bussing him hard and on top of that ExO has no problem talking to him or about him. Or it is LS/Alakaslam. This is generic shit, he could be the type of scum that think surviving is posting stuff in the thread. He played scum with you in the dota game, how did he play there ?
On December 21 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I'm gonna go to bed soon so let's reach a consensus soon please I am never ever voting ExO today. My points on lynching slam first are excellent. I stand the same about voting slam over exo. But one of us is gonna move to the majority before leaving because the setup include a fucking majority vote.
1) Sticks around a while to consolidate if majority is needed. Easy to do for scum, esp if all options are town.
2) Given his filter I am not sure why he doesnt want me over ExO_ lynched.
3) Seems pretty unwilling to reconsider things. More likely to come from scum.
D2 Kmatt / LS
On December 22 2016 19:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 10:35 Kmatt wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W6IQsnY.jpg) Damn it all why didn't you morons talk me out of this.
WE LOST E L O S T This is just after exo lynch. I don't understand the bolded. Even after coming back a few hours before the lynch you didn't seem to be OK to change the lynch. You did have a sentence about having an "open mind" or something like that, but you basically showed that you wouldn't change your vote. Why post this ? I don't think it was possible for someone to talk you out of this ?
On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
I can't keep this up.
##vote Lighteningstrike I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 22 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:On December 22 2016 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:On December 22 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight. Rels is going to go ham. What you mean by going to go ham? He typod. He meant he's going to get ham from the supermarket. You sure he meant that? Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I think you just were trolling me HF -.- These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety.
On December 22 2016 19:19 Rels wrote:
I actually hate disfo filter way more than Kmatt
On December 22 2016 21:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 21:48 Koshi wrote:
It is wrong that Rels does not want to touch Kmatt and is just pushing another lynch like a madman. Reminds me of my mafia games. I look town, I push some random smuck nobody really believes is mafia, but then on D3 they believe me and lynch my smuck.
Rels is doing that. He doesn't really is open about Kmatt, calls him mafia as easily as town, and then is pushing his ml in disformation. Are you calling for Kmatt / me ? I read Kmatt filter. I can see him being scum, there are things in his filter that bothered me, namely several of his posts EOD1.
On December 22 2016 21:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 21:49 Koshi wrote:On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote:On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
I can't keep this up.
##vote Lighteningstrike I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. On December 22 2016 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 22 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:On December 22 2016 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:On December 22 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight. Rels is going to go ham. What you mean by going to go ham? He typod. He meant he's going to get ham from the supermarket. You sure he meant that? On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I think you just were trolling me HF -.- These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all. That's not obvious to me. LS have had a very hard tim eposting as scum until that millionaire game. I'm gonna see if he was able to replicate his naive posting there
On December 22 2016 21:57 Rels wrote:
well actually I gotta eat lunch before it's too late, I'll do that tonight
On December 23 2016 09:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 00:05 Kmatt wrote:
This is gonna sound stupid but I was under the impression that night=radio silence since there's no vote and we're supposed to be "asleep". Anyway
THAT DUMBTELL
On December 23 2016 10:00 Rels wrote:
OK no way Kmatt is scum. It is NOT possible, if he has a partner with a QT hje cannot seriously have thought that it was silent nights
the only possibvility as scum is that he faked that dumbtell but this is SO far stretched
On December 23 2016 10:02 Rels wrote:
which_ means it's disfo and Slam. Or LS ? I needed to check something on LS
On December 23 2016 10:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 00:10 Holyflare wrote:On December 21 2016 10:35 Kmatt wrote:Damn it all why didn't you morons talk me out of this. WE LOST E L O S T On December 21 2016 10:51 Kmatt wrote:On December 21 2016 10:48 Alakaslam wrote:
For what it's worth I'm amazed how well Kmatt told me so much with so little. I mean I made a wall of text a few pages back but otherwise what did I say? On December 21 2016 10:56 Kmatt wrote:On December 21 2016 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:On December 21 2016 10:51 Kmatt wrote:On December 21 2016 10:48 Alakaslam wrote:
For what it's worth I'm amazed how well Kmatt told me so much with so little. I mean I made a wall of text a few pages back but otherwise what did I say? I'm talking about the post where you summed up The reasons EXO was up for Lynch. So what do you make of it? Did he have it coming, am I scum who led the ML, did mafia support my train from behind, etc. On December 21 2016 11:12 Kmatt wrote:On December 21 2016 10:59 sicklucker wrote:
being good as scum when sucking at town is like winning the special Olympics ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yZ0a2St.jpg) all these after deadline............. at night...............
This is gonna sound stupid but I was under the impression that night=radio silence since there's no vote and we're supposed to be "asleep".
.................... WAIT THIS IS TRUE THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE ACTUALLY
On December 23 2016 10:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 00:29 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 00:27 disformation wrote:But yeah his post is so ultra horrible i have no idea what to think of it? Why would scum post taht? why would town post that? Like this part: On December 23 2016 00:05 Kmatt wrote:
Wow I didn't expect to that. But I just don't know of a way to salvage this one. That was the biggest thing that made me nervous about Exo: if he flips green, not only do we get closer to losing, but I have no way to explain myself out of it. I kind of resigned to having thrown the game right there. Of course that was under the assumption that there would be a NK followed by my lynch. That would set the game 3-3 and GG. 3-3?! what? there are not even 3 scum in the game... super randomly giving up after 1 ML. What? PPL get shit wrong all the time... you keep looking for scum. And I have no idea how he suddenly can become so clueless/defeated after playing scum just fine the last game... where he also had at least one post in the night phase. Soooo... trying to play super hard for the newb card? Oh wow there actually are only two scum. I was under the impression it was three this whole time. And there is ANOTHER DUMBTELL. This one makes 0 sense. The fact that we're looking for a 2 player scum team is all over the thread. Everywhere. This looks like forced dumbtells now. 2 in a row ?? I don't believe it
On December 23 2016 10:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS. Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from? There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia. Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly: ![[image loading]](http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53016c21e4b0484cf754d052/t/55536c41e4b0a7df4f94aa44/1431530562676/) This is true. On the other hand why are you townreading me this hard, when at the same time you're saying "kill HF by day 3" ? You know I'm a very good scum too ?
On December 23 2016 10:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 01:49 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 01:32 disformation wrote:On December 23 2016 01:30 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 01:13 Koshi wrote:
Kmatt
Get your ASS IN THIS THREAD
AND DO SHIT I was just reading chill. But yeah the bit about LS retconning his read on Exo doesn't make sense. I'm willing to go with your call on Rels/LS. I don't really see any other two players that work alongside each other anyway. This would also then assume that Disinfo is town and was just being doubted heavily. It still feels weird leaving SL and Slam out of the equation but since you guys were saying Slam is playing normally and SL has come around in the last day it doesn't leave many more options. ##Vote Lightningstrike Might be rich coming from me, but I would like to see more of your own opinion. Look at Slam's and SL's filter. Do you think they are town or scum? Do you think it makes sense that I was doubted? Do you think ppl should still doubt me? Rels made a pretty big case on me earlier. What do you think of it? The case on you worked at the time because other than Exo there weren't any players with red flags. Most of it boiled down to not having any big public reads and you got jumped for it. I personally don't see that as too heinous day1 but I can see why they would. Slam's filter doesn't have a lot going for it but if his story's true than he has a reason to not be around. And I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two. So you're townreading Slam for being super passive but you're voting LS, who's been super passive ? How do that match up ?
On December 23 2016 10:32 Rels wrote:
Yeah Kmatt is scum.
The first dumbtell was so INCREDIBLY AWESOME he hsould have stopped there. 2 dumbtells in a row, on such stupidly easily verifiable things is too weird to be a coincidence.
His reads don't make sense. They are not logical. He's scumreading LS for an itneraction with exo, and that is it; he's saying himself that he's hedging a bet on it. He's saying rels / LS could be the team because ... no reason, just 'cause Koshi yelled about it.
He thinks Slam is town because "I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two.". This is a weird read, but most importantly the same situation to his main scumread too.
The only reason he thinks disfo is town is because of: "What stops me from marking you scum is that you defended Exo." This is a bad read, but that's not a problem for a noob to make a bad read: the problem is that AGAIN it applies to his main scumread.
On December 23 2016 10:33 Rels wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Kmatt
1) Doesnt Check LS meta from the game where LS broke alignment despite saying so
2) Final post + vote on kmatt 20mins after HF posted a very good post in Kmatts defense
3) Implies he doesnt like Kmatt filter. Vote post includes only the wifom/no sense stuff and nothing from his filter.
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Vote Count - Day 3
Rels (1): disformation
Not voted (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, sicklucker, Rels, Alakaslam
It looks like no one will be disqualified at the moment.
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 3 ends in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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coffee break and then Slam.
hope HF drops by. soonish.
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remembered something funny: at the point where i was like "i think rels should have actually made me his #1 scum / voted me", slam did vote me. :D
that kinda tells me that slam had more of a connection to rels read on me than rels himself.
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I also remember HF and koshi being a bit unsure on ExO_ EoD1. why didnt rels try to get me lynched? not sure if town rels would be this fixated in ExO_
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So Slam.
"Instantly" calls out Rels.
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.
Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.
Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.
(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.
Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.
Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.
(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)
What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ? some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing. I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator. Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through like what could I even mean
That triggers Rels end up revisiting his post and pointing out how bad it was and Slam votes me.
No idea why Rels doesnt vote me. :D
Slam then comes back into the thread and calls the ExO_ lynch bad.
On December 21 2016 10:39 Alakaslam wrote:
A few metrics. A read or two.
If Holyflare pushes me aggressively tomorrow, then Lynch me. Afterward, Lynch him with the knowledge that this was said by town.
Hopefully he is not scum, and that will not happen.
I'm getting a feeling that Kmatt is not scum for this. Watch his aggression level.
Koshi is town.
Watch disformation closely.
I would be surprised if lightning strike was scum.
I would not be surprised if sicklucker was.
Hmmm. Forgets to mention Rels at all. Easy LS TR, like everyone else.
On December 21 2016 10:59 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 10:56 Kmatt wrote:On December 21 2016 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:On December 21 2016 10:51 Kmatt wrote:On December 21 2016 10:48 Alakaslam wrote:
For what it's worth I'm amazed how well Kmatt told me so much with so little. I mean I made a wall of text a few pages back but otherwise what did I say? I'm talking about the post where you summed up The reasons EXO was up for Lynch. So what do you make of it? Did he have it coming, am I scum who led the ML, did mafia support my train from behind, etc. You and Holyflare are both town. Mafia supported you guys from behind, or more likely split their votes. This causes me to have some little suspicion on lightning strike, but again I would be surprised to see him Flip scum
Hmmm indeed. Like I agree with the VCA here, but I am not sure what to think of him backing off of LS.
On December 21 2016 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam
Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes. okay general thoughts: at least 1 scum on exo. i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow). so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels. if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff. out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that. one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread. but yeah tomorrow is filter time Doesn't my entrance recently look hugely like a massive case Of too much information ? I am expecting to be scum read a good bit. Giving my say to town is worth that.
The town vibe is so hard with this one.
On December 21 2016 11:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Actually , I wonder why I haven't mentioned Ralph.
;D
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So Slam.
Super AFK. No idea what/where his reads are from. Wish he would have expanded on the LS/Kmatt thing yesterday.
Wish I knew who he was going to vote today. Wish he wouldnt have backed off of LS in one of the posts I quoted.
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What was LS meta regarding his teammates again? 0 interactions?
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so. i think overall id prefer rels over slam.
Rels def. had something "wrong" in his D1 read progression. the super bad drunk posts. VCA points towards him, and he feels like he has a bit of an agenda going on.
Slam is just inactive as hell. I dont like him backing off of LS though. Feels a bit like a coinflip though. Can consolidate on him if I really have to.
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why are you attacking slam when disinfo is mafia?
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On December 27 2016 20:25 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam
LightningStrike (5): Koshi, Koshi, Kmatt, Holyflare, disformation, LightningStrike, sicklucker
Kmatt (2): sicklucker, disformation, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Rels, Alakaslam
disformation (0): Rels, Koshi
Rels (0): Koshi
sicklucker (0): LightningStrike
Not voted (1): LightningStrike
TBH just from the D2 votes it should be one of Rels and Slam. (Unless a CC pops up).
this. 4 people voted ls early. kmatt holyflare disinfo were among them. Ls was trying every trick in the book to get votes opff him including selling his soul. He even tried at the deadline to claim my role and draw the cc. This seems like the motivation of someone with all town on him early idk.
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On December 27 2016 20:07 disformation wrote:
I want SL to really tell us who he thinks is scum.
how does that help town? I wanna get reads by peoples reactions I dont want to help scum know who to attack
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On December 28 2016 02:41 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 20:07 disformation wrote:
I want SL to really tell us who he thinks is scum. how does that help town? I wanna get reads by peoples reactions I dont want to help scum know who to attack
By lynching mafia and endgaming you pleb.
##vote sicklucker
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You maintaining your claim? Bad bad bad.
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