Why EoN, and not right now?
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emperorchampion
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Why EoN, and not right now? | ||
mahrgell
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Make up your mind if we are discussing claims or not. | ||
emperorchampion
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On December 05 2016 07:10 mahrgell wrote: Make up your mind if we are discussing claims or not. Discuss whatever you want. Don't hide behind walls of text though please. | ||
Rels
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On December 05 2016 07:05 emperorchampion wrote: I think we leave Rels/sl since having the jk alive is pretty good, mafia has to target them at some point. If we can find the partner then the game is actually 100% over. That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over | ||
Rels
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I claimed at a time where it was impossible for scum to react to. | ||
emperorchampion
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On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote: That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over Jailor is super strong since they have no RB. | ||
mahrgell
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On December 05 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote: Discuss whatever you want. Don't hide behind walls of text though please. Okay, then I'm more inclined to believe Rels=Scum than Rels=JK. What is this claim? Why do that at EoN???? The only difference between doing that and doing it after EoN is that he was able to tell us his ultra valuable blocks in case he dies. Why on earth would he ever expect to die here? Like WHY? It ain't gonna happen. There was nothing at him pointing to be JK... Scum either shoots SL, because they believe him, or they go hunting... And then I think LS and me were the candidates... (I actually was fairly sure LS was blue... looks like I wasn't alone...) And if you really expect to die... Do you really only post those highly valuable targets??? He didn't post anything but that. I just looked at his filter again... He didn't give any proper reads that night... All he wanted to leave us are his targets? | ||
Onegu
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Ill make a case in a bit. I want to get the vote down now so there is no chance I can get modkilled if I lose internet connection or get struck by lightning or bitten by a shark that was sucked up in a tornado. | ||
Onegu
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Tictock
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More like totally ignore both claims, but yea basically. | ||
mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote: That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night. | ||
emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote: If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night. This is why we focus on finding the partner. Maf has to kill the jailor at some point since they're super strong (and get stronger as there are less players) with no RB. Whichever one dies, we just lynch the other one. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote: If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night. Or he can be town and trying to eat a shot... there are other options... its wifom and we should figure it out later... | ||
mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
On December 05 2016 07:21 emperorchampion wrote: This is why we focus on finding the partner. Maf has to kill the jailor at some point since they're super strong (and get stronger as there are less players) with no RB. Whichever one dies, we just lynch the other one. I'm willing to follow that idea... Lynching Rels may horribly backfire if it goes wrong... | ||
mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + If I would get a shot, it would be on TT. In his D1/N1 play there is absolutely nothing conclusive. Everything was completely viable as town or as scum. I disliked his tmi-accident early in D2. His excuse can be legit, so well... But it is just the vibes... D2 was kinda sleepy and there was not much action by anyone, but from gut feeling I always got that TT was actively promoting this sleepiness. This bad feeling also got reinforced after the SL claim: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1889&topic_id=515094 This was not a heat of the moment post. Also he does not call SL scum. He calls him not-JK. Now why on earth would a townie do that? He suspects him to be VT? Then you do not fucking call that out in this clear way at middle of the night. Scum won't suddenly start shooting themselves because they realize the guy is not JK. One has to die. And if it is VT-SL, hell yeah, get him NKed. Now you may ask what is the difference between HF and TT... Imho it lies in the subtleness. HFs posts were formed so much weaker than this, more adressing on a subconcious level, and I'm not even sure he intended to crumb that idea or just slipped it. But TT openly and intentionally promoted that idea after thinking about it. This is imho a big difference. Now I'm also aware that this goes against the scum strategy of drawing a CC, if they realized SL was fake. But I can't describe it, it looks wrong here. Like as he was distancing himself already from a mislynch on SL. (Compare it to HF again. Imho there is a huge difference. Distancing fails when nobody notices you moved away...) Similarly I can not understand his train of thoughts with the shades he threw N2. Yes of course, everyone has to be doubted at this point... If you don't do that, you are probably scum or not paying attention, or you really think you solved the game. But his shade throws feel so... weird. Shading Onegu, yeah.. makes sense, but is also a viable scumstrat to shade the afk. (and all his scumreads had been the afk so far) And then me and Emp? For what? For not adding a 6th and 7th vote to the shlog train to be "not associated?" WTF? Is this really all you got? Like I'm pretty sure I can be suspected... But thats the trigger point? And with Emp I do not understand it at all. If you want to throw all the reasons why Emp is townread by most out of the window just for this? Emp had some post N3 which gave me a slight doubt. But offvoting is certainly not one of them. Again it just feels like TT is not actively playing, but just posting stuff that seems like content and which are seemingly his thoughts, but he never actually had those thoughts, because he would have noticed how off they are. He made another read summary later, which changed some stuff and looking at it isolated it again makes sense for a townie to think that way. But I don't like the way there. Oh, and im a sucker for such posts, it gave me bad vibes when it was posted... Given the flips and SL situation those vibes are like really really bad... + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2016 19:38 Tictock wrote: Here is the world where Shape/CM8/SL/Onegu are all town. Now I think nothing individually is 100% conclusive here. But it is just a large collection of really bad vibes since the start of D2 and the lack of any strong reason to make me believe he is town. Just too much has to come together to make him town at this point. ##vote Tictock | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 05 2016 07:16 mahrgell wrote: Okay, then I'm more inclined to believe Rels=Scum than Rels=JK. What is this claim? Why do that at EoN???? The only difference between doing that and doing it after EoN is that he was able to tell us his ultra valuable blocks in case he dies. Why on earth would he ever expect to die here? Like WHY? It ain't gonna happen. There was nothing at him pointing to be JK... Scum either shoots SL, because they believe him, or they go hunting... And then I think LS and me were the candidates... (I actually was fairly sure LS was blue... looks like I wasn't alone...) And if you really expect to die... Do you really only post those highly valuable targets??? He didn't post anything but that. I just looked at his filter again... He didn't give any proper reads that night... All he wanted to leave us are his targets? I have no valuable reads that needed saying before death, apart that SL is scum, which I claimed to incriminate him. I claimed before eon to be sure my targets were in the thread. I didn't really expect to be shot but it s always a possibility | ||
Rels
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On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote: If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night. Not if I stop their shot :p | ||
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Holyflare
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Tell me. Are you keeping this cc legitimately or are you going to rescind it? This is a 100% legitimate question because my next move is not a joke. | ||
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