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On April 21 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:Wave, I'm slowly catching up and glancing at the thread. I woke up and I'm doing stuff. I'm going to the gym now (dear diary ) I'm currently reading your posts on page 56 And HF, you're accusing me of being Mafia for being AFK Tell me why being AFK is Mafia trait. This was one thing I remembered. You do love asking people why they scumread you. Gotta see if you did that as town too.
I don't even know why I'm doing this I'm not going to change my mind nor do I need to prove this to anyone lol
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I think it's just sheer curiosity.
Ehhh I think you do it as both alignments.
You do certainly post way less as scum though :D
In any case, not interested in explaining myself further.
Get lynched (but not todaaaay)
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On October 25 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote: Oh and I'm okay with WoS, might be town I dislike hopeless, would lynch in a pinch And I dislike sicklucker but I always think he is mafia You didn't have a problem with me here even though HF was suspicious of me longer before this
Like....you are literally calling me scum now right after you called me TOWN after posting this:
On October 24 2016 22:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing. I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that. Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think.
Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion:
LT GB Hamazura Exo SL Tubesock Lunatic and so on and so forth
If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town. Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait. You're basically calling scum every lurker.
oh GB
poor, poor GB.
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Here's another fun couple of questions for you because I'm bored:
What happened to you last night, and why haven't you claimed any attacks?
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On October 26 2016 11:38 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote: anyway afk until vivax' flip This is scummy you have someone saying they have check on you saying your mafia dear.
i also checked his hp and its low. have at er boys
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On October 26 2016 12:45 Bill Murray wrote: So I attacked sick lucker last night. I meant to switch it and forgot. And no acrofales I don't keep forgetting to send my action in I just do it late like 5:04 a couple times. Even yesterday I meant to switch my action off sicklucker to vivax but where we are lynching him idk idk
why are you attacking me ... you know theres 2 or 3 confirmed mafia in the game right?
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Alright enough procrastinating.
I'm going to see if I can solve anything about this game. But before I even really get started:
We need to be voting Vivax today. What happened yesterday doesn't make a lot of sense unless Vivax is scum.
It's gonna take me a while to really go through the thread, so if anybody has any questions for me or directions to point me in please mention them.
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anyone who didnt attack vivax last night is probably not town. I mean bm I hard defended you all game but this is absurd
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On October 26 2016 15:14 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 12:45 Bill Murray wrote: So I attacked sick lucker last night. I meant to switch it and forgot. And no acrofales I don't keep forgetting to send my action in I just do it late like 5:04 a couple times. Even yesterday I meant to switch my action off sicklucker to vivax but where we are lynching him idk idk why are you attacking me ... you know theres 2 or 3 confirmed mafia in the game right? other than vivax, and glowingbear, who is the 3rd?
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On October 26 2016 15:17 sicklucker wrote: anyone who didnt attack vivax last night is probably not town. I mean bm I hard defended you all game but this is absurd oh shut up he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability
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i feel like im missing something important in this game
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The first thing I notice is this. On day 1 we had:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 22 2016 03:39 disformation wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Vivax (5): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion Lunaticman (4): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, SkynxKoshi (3): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx ritoky (2): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear Kurumi (2): Kurumi, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Bill Murray WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_ Lord Tolkien (1): Kurumi Tictock (1); Vivax Rels (0): Vivaxptmc (0): WaveofShadowSkynx (0): Koshi, Acrofalesiamperfection (0): AcrofalesHolyflare (0): Bill Murraybeentheredonethat (0): Dandel Ion, WaveofShadowHopeless1der (0): Koshi, Acrofales, SkynxExO_ (0): Dandel Ion, iamperfectionNot voted (4): Tictock, Rels, Eversince, WaveofShadow It looks like Vivax is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
HF came in and voted TT, and then you have iamp, Tubesock, Dandel, Ritoky all within 5 minutes of each other. This made him the lead wagon at 7 votes, with lunatic man being 2nd closest at 3. Tubesock then bails for Koshi, a few other random votes happen, before BM/Koshi/bndt all come in to seal the deal.
On day 2 Vivax was basically a lock, before lunatic started really picking up some steam. TS says some really interesting things in this time period:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote: I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.
##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##Vote: Skynx On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote:I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads. Towns: beentheredonethat 1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF) I think that's it. Scums: HolyFlareKoshi (if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF) I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him. He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that. I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc. I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town. Lunaticman is town.+ Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] +On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.
#Vote Koshi + Show Spoiler [towns beenthere] +On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote: The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now. + Show Spoiler [Fear reads HF, next post scums HF] +On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote: HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote: apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. + Show Spoiler [angst spirit] +On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote: apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote: Holyflare, you've been in a game scum with Koshi and town with Koshi. Please skim his filter and tell me if you also think he's scum. I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes. I'd like you to talk about other people though. Covering for your scum buddy I see. + Show Spoiler [defensive] +On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. + Show Spoiler [More HF Scum] +On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it) Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing) ExO_ (why) Kurumi Vivax Koshi GlowingBear WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. + Show Spoiler [Koshi/Art 1 is mafia] +On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote: There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3
On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote: Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.
The really interesting thing here is these posts are about 50 minutes apart. Instead of seeing something then drawing a conclusion based on what he saw, TS first drew the conclusion that lunaticman is town, then found the evidence to back it up.
I find TS highly suspicious.He hops off the Vivax wagon (after being the first to vote him), and then he hops off the TT wagon day 1 as soon as it got a majority. He defends lunaticman as the lunatic wagon is gaining steam on day 2. And then surprise No lynch on day 2. I think this heavily implicates Tubesock. I could see Lunaticman being either scum or town here. It makes a lot more sense to me if Lunaticman is scum, as it would explain why day 2 ends without a lynch with the threat of Koshi's Double lynch. However for me to accept this idea Koshi has to be telling the truth. I can't stand playing with Koshi b/c of how intolerable he is to everyone. It makes me think he's a lying and scum even when he is telling the truth.
On the other side of the coin, I could also see TS making a case for Lunaticman in an attempt to earn towncred for later. But then I'm left with the question: why did day 2 end without a lynch? Maybe scum didn't end the day maybe it was a 3rd party role? Or maybe Vivax is scum and the move was purely to keep him alive?...hmmm I'm not sure.
Either way, my initial thoughts are that TS looks very scummy to me. I think I'm gonna check out Koshi now. But I think TS is my strongest scum read after Vivax.
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On October 26 2016 15:49 ExO_ wrote:The first thing I notice is this. On day 1 we had: + Show Spoiler +On October 22 2016 03:39 disformation wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Vivax (5): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion Lunaticman (4): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, SkynxKoshi (3): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx ritoky (2): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear Kurumi (2): Kurumi, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Bill Murray WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_ Lord Tolkien (1): Kurumi Tictock (1); Vivax Rels (0): Vivaxptmc (0): WaveofShadowSkynx (0): Koshi, Acrofalesiamperfection (0): AcrofalesHolyflare (0): Bill Murraybeentheredonethat (0): Dandel Ion, WaveofShadowHopeless1der (0): Koshi, Acrofales, SkynxExO_ (0): Dandel Ion, iamperfectionNot voted (4): Tictock, Rels, Eversince, WaveofShadow It looks like Vivax is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. HF came in and voted TT, and then you have iamp, Tubesock, Dandel, Ritoky all within 5 minutes of each other. This made him the lead wagon at 7 votes, with lunatic man being 2nd closest at 3. Tubesock then bails for Koshi, a few other random votes happen, before BM/Koshi/bndt all come in to seal the deal. On day 2 Vivax was basically a lock, before lunatic started really picking up some steam. TS says some really interesting things in this time period: + Show Spoiler +On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote: I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.
##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##Vote: Skynx On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote:I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads. Towns: beentheredonethat 1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF) I think that's it. Scums: HolyFlareKoshi (if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF) I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him. He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that. I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc. I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town. Lunaticman is town.+ Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] +On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.
#Vote Koshi + Show Spoiler [towns beenthere] +On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote: The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now. + Show Spoiler [Fear reads HF, next post scums HF] +On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote: HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote: apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. + Show Spoiler [angst spirit] +On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote: apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote: Holyflare, you've been in a game scum with Koshi and town with Koshi. Please skim his filter and tell me if you also think he's scum. I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes. I'd like you to talk about other people though. Covering for your scum buddy I see. + Show Spoiler [defensive] +On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. + Show Spoiler [More HF Scum] +On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it) Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing) ExO_ (why) Kurumi Vivax Koshi GlowingBear WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. + Show Spoiler [Koshi/Art 1 is mafia] +On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote: There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3
On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote: Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.
The really interesting thing here is these posts are about 50 minutes apart. Instead of seeing something then drawing a conclusion based on what he saw, TS first drew the conclusion that lunaticman is town, then found the evidence to back it up. I find TS highly suspicious.He hops off the Vivax wagon (after being the first to vote him), and then he hops off the TT wagon day 1 as soon as it got a majority. He defends lunaticman as the lunatic wagon is gaining steam on day 2. And then surprise No lynch on day 2. I think this heavily implicates Tubesock. I could see Lunaticman being either scum or town here. It makes a lot more sense to me if Lunaticman is scum, as it would explain why day 2 ends without a lynch with the threat of Koshi's Double lynch. However for me to accept this idea Koshi has to be telling the truth. I can't stand playing with Koshi b/c of how intolerable he is to everyone. It makes me think he's a lying and scum even when he is telling the truth. On the other side of the coin, I could also see TS making a case for Lunaticman in an attempt to earn towncred for later. But then I'm left with the question: why did day 2 end without a lynch? Maybe scum didn't end the day maybe it was a 3rd party role? Or maybe Vivax is scum and the move was purely to keep him alive?...hmmm I'm not sure. Either way, my initial thoughts are that TS looks very scummy to me. I think I'm gonna check out Koshi now. But I think TS is my strongest scum read after Vivax.
Too many mental gymnastics. They stopped the lynch to prevent Vivax from getting lynched, and obviously frustrating the hell out of town. Added bonus, if koshi is town then they have a double reason to no-lynch: wasting town ultimates is always good for scum.
@koshi: can you confirm you still have your vote-damage/double lynch ability?
If so, i trust WoS and we need a 2nd wagon on gb by the end of the day.
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On October 26 2016 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 09:38 Tubesock wrote:On October 26 2016 09:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Also who was btdt attacking with his power? Koshi? The both of them should be nearly dead I think. Been attacked Lunaticman. + Show Spoiler +On October 26 2016 01:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too.
Putting this out here again.
GB and Koshi should be fairly low health sans heals. Oh that's very interesting. Did Lunatic ever claim being hit before? Who did btdt attack before? Was it Koshi? I guess I was assuming he'd try to max out his power by going for the same person both nights but if thought Koshi was scum D1 and then not D2 that obviously makes sense Btdt attacked koshi 3 times. Then Luna once. Pity. If he has stuck on koshi, koshi would probably be dead, with that 68 dmg + whatever other people did to him.
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On October 26 2016 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote:I guess maybe I'm not super surprised I'm not being hailed as town hero just yet, but 'what' is all you can muster? All hail the conquering hero!
What?
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On October 26 2016 12:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote:These two posts don't really align, for the record, GB. On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote: ##vote: Vivax
My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker. Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.
Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:
Vivax Glowingbear Lunatic Kurumi Exo Hamazura (???) Artanis sicklucker Koshi
They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)
Glowingbear is scum. I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how. Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up? In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.
There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.
As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.
Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)
I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.
Random thoughts: Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.
I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.
I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh. There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch On October 26 2016 11:45 GlowingBear wrote: I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia WoS, why do you scumread me? Try again. I'll tell you how they align. You've just hinted you confirmed me as mafia by using ways related to mechanics. It means you're lying or you're bluffing, because I am town. Therefore, you must have very strong reasons for which you believe I am mafia, or you're just simply mafia, which I'm starting to believe in. I've only seen you saying I'm useless. The problem is that (1) being useless doesn't mean I'm mafia and (2) I'm not being that useless since I'm posting reads from times to times. You don't seem to care for those reads I post. You only seem to be interested in pushing my lynch without reevaluating if you're wrong or not. You don't react to the new information I post in thread at all. You're playing an easy game. My question is: how can you keep calling me useless without even giving me the chance to be town? Why are you so right on me being mafia that nothing changes the way you think? I've done NOTHING scummy in order to have you this tunneled on me. You're also being quite selective between the lurkers. Say, what's so different between my play and hopeless' play in your POV?
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On October 26 2016 13:00 GlowingBear wrote: Pretty sure you're Mafia. I'm voting you and no one else today The fuck you are. Vote Vivax or I consider it a scumclaim.
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I'm very sad I switched off GB to hit LT in the end :/
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