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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 02:12 GMT
#3641
On October 26 2016 11:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:05 ritoky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx, ExO_, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Skynx, beentheredonethat, sicklucker, Tubesock, GlowingBear
Lunaticman (8): Koshi, ptmc, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Hopeless1der, Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien, beentheredonethat
Koshi (1): Lunaticman
Tubesock (1): Vivax
iamperfection (0): GlowingBear
HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): beentheredonethat
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[xP]
Skynx (0): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Skynx, Artanis[xP], Tubesock

Not voted (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo,

Well Vivax was about to be owned...but now we have a problem on our hands....

how do your reads translate to this vote count wos?

It literally doesnt matter since scum negated the lynch.

Mostly irrelevant because the lynch was predetermined for ages, and people were told what they had to do more or less.

Why, did you have any thoughts on the matter?


For that matter does anyone else?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2016 02:13 GMT
#3642
On October 26 2016 11:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:05 ritoky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx, ExO_, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Skynx, beentheredonethat, sicklucker, Tubesock, GlowingBear
Lunaticman (8): Koshi, ptmc, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Hopeless1der, Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien, beentheredonethat
Koshi (1): Lunaticman
Tubesock (1): Vivax
iamperfection (0): GlowingBear
HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): beentheredonethat
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[xP]
Skynx (0): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Skynx, Artanis[xP], Tubesock

Not voted (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo,

Well Vivax was about to be owned...but now we have a problem on our hands....

how do your reads translate to this vote count wos?

It literally doesnt matter since scum negated the lynch.


sure it does. maybe not as a pure vote count, but as a statement of intent.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 02:13 GMT
#3643
On October 26 2016 10:37 iamperfection wrote:
what

I guess maybe I'm not super surprised I'm not being hailed as town hero just yet, but 'what' is all you can muster?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2016 02:14 GMT
#3644
i think it was a what about kurumi scum claiming w/o posting in the thread
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 02:17 GMT
#3645
On October 26 2016 11:14 ritoky wrote:
i think it was a what about kurumi scum claiming w/o posting in the thread

He randomly voted for LT in the vote thread.

Since we are fairly sure that scum didn't kill LT and he didn't seem to know LT was dead....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2016 02:20 GMT
#3646
On October 26 2016 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:14 ritoky wrote:
i think it was a what about kurumi scum claiming w/o posting in the thread

He randomly voted for LT in the vote thread.

Since we are fairly sure that scum didn't kill LT and he didn't seem to know LT was dead....


i mean....regardless of alignment he if he doesn't read the thread at all before voting he doesn't know.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 02:23 GMT
#3647
ehhhhhhhhhhhhdamn
Yeah probly


But I still think he's scum
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 26 2016 02:24 GMT
#3648
On October 26 2016 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 10:37 iamperfection wrote:
what

I guess maybe I'm not super surprised I'm not being hailed as town hero just yet, but 'what' is all you can muster?

i was what'ing the cancer boy comment
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2016 02:29 GMT
#3649
could be.

personally sl is probably top of my list. he talks WAYYYYYYYYY too much about mechanics in his filter and doesn't really talk about reads or banter much for his standards; plus he has an ability that sounds scummy, he used it with scummy intent which was only ruined by the fact that players were notified, his koshi "read" progression don't make much sense, plus people had really opposite reactions to his ability and its use than i did which could be scum looking for excuses to TR eachother (this one was higher up until btdt flipped)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2016 02:32 GMT
#3650
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#3651
On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
anyway afk until vivax' flip


This is scummy
I'm adorable.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#3652
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

lamp seems like one of those roles that needs town coordination to shine, which we obviously dont have.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#3653
On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
anyway afk until vivax' flip


This is scummy

you have someone saying they have check on you saying your mafia dear.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#3654
On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
anyway afk until vivax' flip


This is scummy

the fuck it is, given this town so far
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 26 2016 02:39 GMT
#3655
On October 26 2016 11:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

lamp seems like one of those roles that needs town coordination to shine, which we obviously dont have.

not really just heal me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 02:41 GMT
#3656
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues?
I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want?

Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2016 02:41 GMT
#3657
On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: Vivax

My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.

Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:

Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi


They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)

Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.

There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.

As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.

Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)

I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.

Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.

I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.

I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more.


When I flip green you know who to lynch
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2016 02:45 GMT
#3658
I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia
WoS, why do you scumread me?
I'm adorable.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:46 GMT
#3659
On October 26 2016 11:39 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

lamp seems like one of those roles that needs town coordination to shine, which we obviously dont have.

not really just heal me

well yeah but do i save it for night phase tho..
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:48 GMT
#3660
On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: Vivax

My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.

Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:

Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi


They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)

Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.

There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.

As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.

Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)

I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.

Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.

I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.

I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more.


When I flip green you know who to lynch

......................Vivax????
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