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These two posts don't really align, for the record, GB.
On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: Vivax
My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.
Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:
Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi
They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)
Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.
There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.
As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.
Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)
I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.
Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.
I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.
I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch
On October 26 2016 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia
WoS, why do you scumread me?
Try again.
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On October 26 2016 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia
WoS, why do you scumread me?
DO YOU READ
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On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting?
i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective.
i have a move + attack each day phase.
that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side.
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On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting? i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective. i have a move + attack each day phase. that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side.
Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia.
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On October 26 2016 12:03 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote:On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting? i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective. i have a move + attack each day phase. that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side. Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia.
I wouldn't waste a cc on him. I bet there is something he's not telling us but overall he does seem fairly harmless, and if he helps us kill scum I'm cool with him
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On October 26 2016 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
you here glowingbear?
Yes
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So I attacked sick lucker last night. I meant to switch it and forgot. And no acrofales I don't keep forgetting to send my action in I just do it late like 5:04 a couple times. Even yesterday I meant to switch my action off sicklucker to vivax but where we are lynching him idk idk
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Ok so I voted and sent in my action I have something spicy in store the next couple nights
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On October 26 2016 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote:These two posts don't really align, for the record, GB. Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: Vivax
My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.
Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:
Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi
They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)
Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.
There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.
As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.
Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)
I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.
Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.
I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.
I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch Show nested quote +On October 26 2016 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia
WoS, why do you scumread me? Try again.
I'll tell you how they align.
You've just hinted you confirmed me as mafia by using ways related to mechanics. It means you're lying or you're bluffing, because I am town. Therefore, you must have very strong reasons for which you believe I am mafia, or you're just simply mafia, which I'm starting to believe in.
I've only seen you saying I'm useless. The problem is that (1) being useless doesn't mean I'm mafia and (2) I'm not being that useless since I'm posting reads from times to times.
You don't seem to care for those reads I post. You only seem to be interested in pushing my lynch without reevaluating if you're wrong or not. You don't react to the new information I post in thread at all. You're playing an easy game.
My question is: how can you keep calling me useless without even giving me the chance to be town? Why are you so right on me being mafia that nothing changes the way you think? I've done NOTHING scummy in order to have you this tunneled on me.
You're also being quite selective between the lurkers. Say, what's so different between my play and hopeless' play in your POV?
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This flailing reminds me a previous game where you were scum. Can't remember which one. Maybe I'll actually go look it up.
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On October 23 2016 00:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 00:06 Tubesock wrote:
I don't buy the LT and SL are town because of targeting WoS one bit. I absolutely do and think wave's reaction to it here: Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 22:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 22 2016 17:32 Holyflare wrote:On October 22 2016 17:21 Holyflare wrote:On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2016 09:34 NocturneMage wrote:Lunatic is also rreaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy meh. On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though.... On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:
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So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me? I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will. I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days. I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood. Also I'm off to bed nn. On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote:
Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.
##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der
p60 atm HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you. You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons. It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia. and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content. I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match. So if I have a choice between a town koshi or a town ticktock I go after the scrub one??? I could have easily lynched koshi but I'm waiting to see if he does something, anything in fact while i had an actual case on TT. He also claimed a town ability too. Koshi regularly gets nk on night 1 and 2 as town because he's a big threat and plays well but for some reason I'd just let him stay alive? Wave is definitely mafia btw. I lost 0 hp. Ok wave might not definitely be mafia but lt/sl are practically confirmed town in my eyes now. I don't believe mafia start laying their kp on wave when they can attack better targets. Oh actually this is a good point. Ugh. Stop making good points. Is pretty bad because in my/lt/sl's world this only makes sense because we believe wave is mafia In wave's world (if he's town) then it's his scum read lt getting rid of town wave and sl stacking with me too But he said it's a good point which is kinda scummy response because it's only a good point if wave is mafia
Holyflare also thought you were. He died night1
Let's see what btdt thinks
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On October 26 2016 12:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
This flailing reminds me a previous game where you were scum. Can't remember which one. Maybe I'll actually go look it up.
Awesome way to dodge a legit suspicion
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Pretty sure you're Mafia. I'm voting you and no one else today
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My thoughts on Koshi:
So i feel the need to say that the fact that Koshi failed to produce a double lynch is not *necessarily* his fault. He proclaimed it to the world and it got struck down.
A) he thought it was nearly foolproof (and is town)
B) he's scum
C) hes 3p (super unlikely, this is only here for the sake of addressing all options...at this point Planar Dragon is a thing)
So, while it'd be great to be able to just lynch him and be done with it, the flavor/end of the day strongly suggests the presence of Balanar (nightstalker). If we are approaching LYLO/MYLO territory, then sure lets get rid of him on the chance the he is in fact responsible for causing the no-lynch. However, I still think Koshi is more likely town than scum and I dont want to remove him, especially since he claims to have taken so much damage and is liable to die to random aoe damage without our intervention anyways, so we dont need to look at him for lynch for a couple days imo..
I'll spend more time worrying about the rest of the game after Vivax dies, but I at least want to say that I think Koshi is town atm. If I die in the meantime, oh welp, I'm not that strong imo, so not a huge deal to me. I've been hitting acro, 'protecting' lamp and annoying dandel so far this game.
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He was suspicious of WoS, called Exo lunatic and Skynx mafia. Also called dandelion Mafia.
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WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman
Probs mafia team
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We were probably hitting Mafia yesterday. Darkness indicates it
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Care to answer my questions, WoS?
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