[T] Dota 2 Mafia - Page 181

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

October 25 2016 22:52 GMT

#3601

Literally I dunno why everyone is so upset after one no-lynch. You guys are making it more effective than it actually is by this whole drama.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

October 25 2016 22:53 GMT

#3602

On October 26 2016 07:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Iamp he's fine leave him alone

I have things we need to do

like what

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 25 2016 22:54 GMT

#3603

Need a bit

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

October 25 2016 22:55 GMT

#3604

w/e maybe i am just extra mad cuz i delayed my objective to try and help and it was a waste essentially.

someone ask koshi about targeting himself. i don't talk to him.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

October 25 2016 22:55 GMT

#3605

gonna go cool off cuz i typed in caps which is 1 step from calling someone bad names and getting modkilled.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

October 25 2016 22:57 GMT

#3606

On October 26 2016 07:55 ritoky wrote:
w/e maybe i am just extra mad cuz i delayed my objective to try and help and it was a waste essentially.

someone ask koshi about targeting himself. i don't talk to him.

makes no sense if your actual 3p and thought TOWN WAS A DISASTER why help

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 25 2016 23:00 GMT

#3607

It makes sense. I absolutely believe his claim. Give me like 30 min I'm going to post a bunch.

I'm also going to need to know if anyone attacked me this time around.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

October 25 2016 23:34 GMT

#3608

Ritoky's claim seems pretty legit. His wincon was stated by Koroko I think. (6ish clones)

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 25 2016 23:41 GMT

#3609

I just wrote up some balance whine but I'll save it for postgame. Suffice it to say there are things in this game which I believe should have been done differently.

Only somewhat related is, how in all that is holy has hamazura not been modkilled yet?

Ritoky is he a Meepo clone and not actually a real player or something?

Anyway, moving on.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 26 2016 00:00 GMT

#3610

##vote: Vivax

My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.

Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:

Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi

They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)

Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.

There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.

As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.

Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)

I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.

Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.

I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.

I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 26 2016 00:03 GMT

#3611

On October 26 2016 07:17 Acrofales wrote:

Show nested quote +

I don't believe you.

Well, that's not true. I just don't believe scum could have hit you. I got hit for a metric fuckton and btdt died, almost certainly to scum damage.

Like I said, depending on HP values and between scum factional KP and abilities this is entirely possible, and I have no reason to believe the both of you didn't eat it tonight.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 26 2016 00:07 GMT

#3612

What I wouldn't mind primarily if people don't blindly want to listen to me, is to discuss why my list shouldn't be followed, or to discuss any potential way we can try to organize ourselves a little better as a town. It's my belief that the balance mechanics (such as they are) heavily rely on a fairly organized town, though in a completely closed setup such as this without an effective way of communicating what our potentials might be, I feel pretty gimped.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

October 26 2016 00:18 GMT

#3613

if koshi can still use his thing i have no problem putting gb in the second slot. GB has already taken damage

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

October 26 2016 00:23 GMT

#3614

I'd be happy to attack GB (or support secondary lynch attempt #2), Koshi, Hazmatubo, Sicklucker and ExO.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

October 26 2016 00:25 GMT

#3615

On October 26 2016 09:18 iamperfection wrote:
if koshi can still use his thing i have no problem putting gb in the second slot. GB has already taken damage

Yes he has.

Yesterday was just a no-lynch, right?
If it was vote-rigger we risk that shit happening again, no? They won't be able to use a no lynch ability twice (or if they can I just quit right now), but a vote-rigger in theory could mess us up again? Actually probably not because even if they took away votes or nullified some or whatever it still wouldn't have cause a no lynch. I'm going to assume we're safe and Koshi's ability, if true, is safe as well.