On September 11 2016 04:55 Tumblewood wrote: yo calix, Damdred's meta D1 as town is to try and form a town circle (and to a lesser extent all game). he is also a valuable townie because that is a useful strategy.
His scum play has become really good. I won't lynch him D1 by default but I'm certainly still open to the idea of him being mafia. If he actually lynched mafia at some point ahead that would make things easier.
HF and Palmar are roughly in the same category.
The idea of the town circle is only as good as the town circle itself, so don't really see any grounds for this being a reason to TR Damdred.
The point is we're not lynching Damdred today. We need to form some sort of circle and decide on something. Let's ignore Palmar cuz ppl don't want to lynch him, which of Super, Shape, TT you want to lynch most?
On September 11 2016 04:59 Tumblewood wrote: I know lynching for information is the devil, but I really want to lynch into tt or Hf today given that the entire game revolves around Hf & the sheeps vs tt & the chainsaws
this is a terrible post.
not sure if it's mafia or town, but it's terrible.
On September 11 2016 04:55 Tumblewood wrote: yo calix, Damdred's meta D1 as town is to try and form a town circle (and to a lesser extent all game). he is also a valuable townie because that is a useful strategy.
His scum play has become really good. I won't lynch him D1 by default but I'm certainly still open to the idea of him being mafia. If he actually lynched mafia at some point ahead that would make things easier.
HF and Palmar are roughly in the same category.
The idea of the town circle is only as good as the town circle itself, so don't really see any grounds for this being a reason to TR Damdred.
I don't really care as much about mafia Damdred as I do about mafia Palmar or Hf. he's good, but he doesn't push mislynches and it's not a personal point of pride to lynch him, if that makes sense.
On February 16 2014 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Grack stfu and help us find scum if you are town. Ladidaing about voting yourself yesterday is negatively helpful.
Oh I have. Keirathi Yamato WoS HF
And still my dream was crushed in the last minute by the wavering Marvellosity's failure to commit. Also it turns out my filter was 19 pages of 1 liners, which is amazing.
Then HF made a bold prediction:
On February 19 2014 09:29 Holyflare wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Risen
inb4 grack, risen, va and obs thread tell everyone scum team was obvious and about how "right" they were
On February 13 2014 23:30 Palmar wrote: I'm not pretentious
If you know someone is scum, and marv thinks VA is scum, marv gets his target lynched and you don't, even if marv is wrong, marv played better than you, because you did nothing.
It's equally useless to have good reads and no ability to convey your thoughts to the town, as it is to have bad reads.
Yes.
And then I delivered:
On February 19 2014 09:32 Grackaroni wrote: First off, excellent inb4 by HolyFlare - This is the moment I wait for every game I sign up lol.
On February 17 2014 23:42 Palmar wrote: Apparently I'm not being perfectly clear VE.
I think there's a 80% chance Grack is town, I value his reads 4 (scale of 1-10).
I think there's a 60% chance you're town, I value your reads 8 (scale 1-10).
From my point of view it's far better to confirm you, and get good reads, than to confirm grack and get bad reads, on the guy who I had less scumspicion on in the first place.
On September 11 2016 04:59 Tumblewood wrote: I know lynching for information is the devil, but I really want to lynch into tt or Hf today given that the entire game revolves around Hf & the sheeps vs tt & the chainsaws
this is a terrible post.
not sure if it's mafia or town, but it's terrible.
I made another for u but if we don't figure it out today then we shit up the game in the same way tomorrow, and not only is that lame it's a waste of time. especially on D1 when we're wrong 70% of the time anyway.
Who cares if he's giving a middle finger? I'm not interested in a policy-lynch on an inactive that people are trying to dress up as a scum-read lynch. You're the first person who has actually called a spade a spade.
On September 11 2016 04:59 Calix wrote: My laptop is slow when it comes to quoting so I'll just be giving numbers so I can keep up with the thread.
But 648 and 658 has him basically say "oh I have this town read, who wants to guess at what it is" and when NU gives an answer he says "lol no" but...doesn't actually say why he town-reads fuba for that post. Not a scum tell but baiting people with a read that you have when you're not doing it to get info is strange and not sure why he did that.
827 was also terrible because he was saying "there is no logical reason for town to defend TT" (which implies that anyone who does defend him is scum and reads like he was trying to deter me from doing so) especially the last line where he was like "well this particular thing could mean anything"
The rest of his filter is the WIFOM discussion and some 'townie bravado' posts.
On September 11 2016 05:12 Calix wrote: Who cares if he's giving a middle finger? I'm not interested in a policy-lynch on an inactive that people are trying to dress up as a scum-read lynch. You're the first person who has actually called a spade a spade.
But that's really my whole point. If someone is trying to dress up an inactive as a scum-read lynch then they are pretty likely scum.
On September 11 2016 05:08 Calix wrote: Oh for fuck's sake. This train is woeful and everyone is just content to slap a vote down >_>
It's not about that.
Tictock is objectively scummy.
He did that thing in the early game with the scumclaim. That's fine and all, and loads of people do it, but the only way it ever works out for town is if you then follow up by looking at the people who react to it. He did very little analysis following the claim.
He also did the whole "I'll talk more after dinner" and then disappeared. If he had just disappeared it wouldn't have meant anything, but because he claimed he'd be back it's clear he wanted to appear as if he was contributing.
Neither of these make him lock mafia, but both of them, combined with his short filter and poorly explained reads make him a pretty solid day 1 lynch. He is a high % mafia target.