Holy fuck that is a mess of nothing conclusive.
Holy fucking mozes.
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Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#1141
Holy fuck that is a mess of nothing conclusive. Holy fucking mozes. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:33 GMT
#1142
Pun intended. | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 11:44 GMT
#1143
On May 03 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: Shape who was 0 effort this game said this about a mafia: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 01:10 Shapelog wrote: DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read. SaltShaker Kinda debating putting him in the scum lean cat. (I did) I would expect him to do more after saying most people are going to wait to post (his 3rd post.) Also this post really doesn't give much if you look at it: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts A lot of his town reads aren't really explained (TT) and just feels rushed in a way. He is kinda avoids a read on 3 people (talks about FF, but doesn't actually really gives a read, more so on the threads interaction on FF) (HTS statement was pretty none positional) (and I have really no clue what he means on mine lol) He also doesn't seem to go after anyone other than GB. And focuses on GB on his next post. Which is pretty impressive. After he gave that list post he did nothing to push either sl or figure out DYH their alignment though. But turned it miraculously around and he voted mafia sl on D1. Impressive once more. But looking at his post he kinda was looking to get off him. Why? Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: ##Vote: Sicklucker My reasoning in my list + Still not being here Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is. Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 07:10 Shapelog wrote: Hmmm. I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote. On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote: On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote: On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote: LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum. And this is different than every other game how? Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow. It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately. You're right, it's been a while I guess. I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today. On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ##vote sicklucker frig off damdred On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote HTS Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.) ↑ please watch how FF was voting fecalfeast. The same person Shape thought was mafia. But for some reason right after voting sl, Shape goes attack the person who wants to vote sl with him. Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote: Saltshaker, you finally decided to show up. Just 30 mins roughly from deadline. Yay.... Prob. my 4/5 post or w/e ↑ Tinfoil (mafia talking to each other) BUT There is also no actual attempt from Shape to read sl. Just this. Strange when Shape was scumreading sl? And D2 he again ended on mafia!! Impressive once more. And D3 he did nothing because there was 0 pressure. Pushed the GB a bit but didn't put his hearth really into it. Also pushed another town lynch in TT already. Just doing what is needed. Blending in and making the right cases on the right people. For D4 he didn't even vote. Which is not normal for Shape. I do believe he has really problems connecting to the internet but I also think that as town he would find a way to show his commitment to solving the game and wouldn't get catched by internet failure. Probably voted his scumread when he entered the thread. etc etc. The guy is just playing reactionary D3 and D4 and is getting rewarded for it by dumbass shit townreads that people give him. I never understood why people townread him. Both HTS and gumshoe and this TW. And GB. Only TT was skeptical and said he was probably town because the mafia spewed him town. Which was exactly my read on Shape but some dumbasses lynched TT and some other dumbasses didn't vote. But w.e that happened. D5 more nothing. Just get him lynched. Last 3 cycles it is mafia riding to victory because town is fucking retarded to the maximum. Gumshoe. Read this fucking case carefully. And tell me why the fuck you want to lynch somebody who wrote 5 billion words over Shape. Who has no real reason to be town except GAME FUCKING RELATED EVENTS. While HTS was pushed by SL While HTS made a shitton of questionable post. (which at that amount could come from town trying to solve over mafia trying to hide) While HTS is really trying to solve the game. day after day. point 1: zero effort- hyperbole. point 2: seems like your muddling this up, but yeah, just seems like derp to me. If dude knew if ff was going to flip green he would not have voted ff at the last sec. the end. point 3: shape is not a pushy player and he wasnt leading town sentiment, he was probs just lazy/realistic. Like I blatantly defended sl that day, so my criteria for scummy regarding this lynch is "who was afraid to look bad" and shape def doesnt fall into that category. point 4: you vaguely brush over how he lands on mafia and treat this as a scum point... gonna need more than that. point 5: if hts is the final scummer, we can assume he was having a hard time pushing as no one was actually scum XD which may very well explain his hesitance, for proof though I was also busy, I was frustrated with the situation as well making the game hard to play at all. point 6: I didnt vote due to a combination of gb disappointment and work, that shows there is a precedent for a townie showcasing this behaviors ether way therefore it is null. point 7: of course a player will look reactionary when they dont really know who scum is (ie scum is one of thier hard town reads) point 8: read it carefully. point 9: we've already explained hts's behavior, 1: it's her last game she wants to win 2: her scum team is beneath her skill level so she can buss if need be 3: Shes generally skilled and active as ethier side. Shape may very well just be a shit townie, we def have lots of those always. point 10: Hts was only pushed by sl once she started pushing him(around when he looked like the lynch) she eventually voted off him, and he voted off her FOR LITERALLY NO GIVEN REASON ON TO YOU. 11: Post day 2, hts does not have to play scummy, she just has to not die. 12: As we said, last game, usually active, nai. | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 11:46 GMT
#1144
On May 03 2016 20:31 Koshi wrote: Just read what Shape was saying under his section D2: Holy fuck that is a mess of nothing conclusive. Holy fucking mozes. means nothing mang, tl mafia is like 90 percent terrible. IN NORMAL SHAPE WAS ACCUSING ME OF BIENG SCUM EVEN AS HE WAS DYING AND I WAS DESPERATELY TRYING TO SAVE HIM skill/contribution is not a good way to read the guy. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:47 GMT
#1145
I will leave this to you. If you want to lynch gumshoe we will. The guy keeps defending Shape as "could be a shit townie" while Shape is a better town player than he is and just won a mafia game 7 vs 1 and survived 4 town lynches. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:49 GMT
#1146
I am maybe tunneled on Shape, but if Shape is not mafia you are. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:51 GMT
#1147
point 5: if hts is the final scummer, we can assume he was having a hard time pushing as no one was actually scum XD which may very well explain his hesitance, for proof though I was also busy, I was frustrated with the situation as well making the game hard to play at all. Like what is this fucking piece of shit reasoning? REALLY WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT GUMSHOE? SHAPE WASN4T FUCKING BUSY SHAPE WASN4T FUCKING FRUSTRATED HOW THE LIVING FUCK DO YOU DEFEND SHAPE WITH FUCKING MADE UP FUCKING REASONS YOU DFQDFQSDFQDSFQSET2A45235645YDRFG | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 11:52 GMT
#1148
On May 03 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote: I will never again vote HTS this game gumshoe. So you better shape the fuck up and read the guy. Pun intended. thats fine, we can let the lynch dead lock, ill get shot and you can vote whoever you want. I also am unwilling to sheep you due to how you got fucking mad at fedie for being town XD I dont want hts to be scum koshi, I am simply voting the person the evidence suggests is mafia. You on the other hand have this notion of deserving or not deserving the win, I think for the sake of your own sanity you desperately want shape to be scum XD and more than anything in the world, you dont wanna be the guy who lets a scum shape win in this position. Your not impartial and your ignoring key points. I am sorry koshi but you are not sheep worthy. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:54 GMT
#1149
The guy is literally not playing the game while he normally is a hardcore player. I already said that this is the guy that is floating so many fucking scenarios in his head that you want to fucking buy a gun and shoot him in the head so he would shut the fuck up clustering the thread with a fucking million posts about who could be mafia for reasons you think can't get more ridiculous till you read his next post. | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 11:55 GMT
#1150
On May 03 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote: gumshoe your reasoning for defending Shape are the worst I ever read in forever. So either you get lynched for being this fucking dense or Shape is. I am maybe tunneled on Shape, but if Shape is not mafia you are. then lynch me, I am not lynching shape and yes I am making reasons up to counter you because I simply dont think hes scum and everything else is second to that. thats because I have key points your saying dont matter, but they do matter to me koshi, as they always yield my best reads. | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 11:56 GMT
#1151
On May 03 2016 20:54 Koshi wrote: Well if he was frustrated it was because he couldn't access the interwebz. But you didn't mean that and Shape was not frustrated with the game because he fucking isn't playing the game. The guy is literally not playing the game while he normally is a hardcore player. I already said that this is the guy that is floating so many fucking scenarios in his head that you want to fucking buy a gun and shoot him in the head so he would shut the fuck up clustering the thread with a fucking million posts about who could be mafia for reasons you think can't get more ridiculous till you read his next post. I just played a game where he would afk for long stretches of time and didnt really have any strong cases. Therefore you can forgive me for not buying into your meta read / : | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 11:58 GMT
#1152
On May 03 2016 20:52 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote: I will never again vote HTS this game gumshoe. So you better shape the fuck up and read the guy. Pun intended. thats fine, we can let the lynch dead lock, ill get shot and you can vote whoever you want. I also am unwilling to sheep you due to how you got fucking mad at fedie for being town XD I dont want hts to be scum koshi, I am simply voting the person the evidence suggests is mafia. You on the other hand have this notion of deserving or not deserving the win, I think for the sake of your own sanity you desperately want shape to be scum XD and more than anything in the world, you dont wanna be the guy who lets a scum shape win in this position. Your not impartial and your ignoring key points. I am sorry koshi but you are not sheep worthy. At least this is a good post. well done. So you are town. good. hmmm. I'll make a "why is hts town post" later maybe. I think the vote she made here: On May 02 2016 08:37 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On May 02 2016 08:18 gumshoe wrote: Hey, sorry kosh, past few days have been hectic, no time for maf shape is town, cause dyh accused him pretty hard. your town cause day 2. I'm town cause derp so yeah, hts it is ##vote hts 2/40 4 people remaining, first to two votes gets lynched. This is a pretty terrible post without considering why it's me over Shape (when sicklucker did the same day 1). Think I found the final mafia trying to clinch, but I'll go through the motions again to be sure. If for nothing else postgame cred xD ##vote gumshoe is actually pretty townie reasoning. There are also a shitton of other posts she made that are really townie. Like... Way more likely to come from town than mafia. That and her really trying hard just makes it impossible for me to lynch her. Like I said. I genuinely believe mafia to be 45% Shape 40% HTS 15% gumshoe atm. And the 5% difference between Shape and HTS is based on the effort. Not the full 40% | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 12:03 GMT
#1153
Shape is the person I'm most suspicious of, doesn't seem to be doing much and his posts are overly self-conscious, especially for someone that hasn't been seriously pressured yet. dyhthis is not scum on scum wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one slthis is not scum on scum SL - I'm putting off making a decision on him. I don't have strong feelings either way and he promised more activity today. DyhTHIS is scum on scum, note the benefit of the doubt? The willingness in the absence of effort to give a pass to your scum mate? kinda like this I'd like to see you look a bit more into some of the lower volume posters though and take a stance either way, I realise it's Day 1 but there has been some content at least from DYH and sicklucker. htssigh duck | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 12:19 GMT
#1154
On May 03 2016 20:58 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 20:52 gumshoe wrote: On May 03 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote: I will never again vote HTS this game gumshoe. So you better shape the fuck up and read the guy. Pun intended. thats fine, we can let the lynch dead lock, ill get shot and you can vote whoever you want. I also am unwilling to sheep you due to how you got fucking mad at fedie for being town XD I dont want hts to be scum koshi, I am simply voting the person the evidence suggests is mafia. You on the other hand have this notion of deserving or not deserving the win, I think for the sake of your own sanity you desperately want shape to be scum XD and more than anything in the world, you dont wanna be the guy who lets a scum shape win in this position. Your not impartial and your ignoring key points. I am sorry koshi but you are not sheep worthy. At least this is a good post. well done. So you are town. good. hmmm. I'll make a "why is hts town post" later maybe. I think the vote she made here: Show nested quote + On May 02 2016 08:37 Half the Sky wrote: On May 02 2016 08:18 gumshoe wrote: Hey, sorry kosh, past few days have been hectic, no time for maf shape is town, cause dyh accused him pretty hard. your town cause day 2. I'm town cause derp so yeah, hts it is ##vote hts 2/40 4 people remaining, first to two votes gets lynched. This is a pretty terrible post without considering why it's me over Shape (when sicklucker did the same day 1). Think I found the final mafia trying to clinch, but I'll go through the motions again to be sure. If for nothing else postgame cred xD ##vote gumshoe is actually pretty townie reasoning. There are also a shitton of other posts she made that are really townie. Like... Way more likely to come from town than mafia. That and her really trying hard just makes it impossible for me to lynch her. Like I said. I genuinely believe mafia to be 45% Shape 40% HTS 15% gumshoe atm. And the 5% difference between Shape and HTS is based on the effort. Not the full 40% in general hts does look townie, but as I said, check out vanilla mafia, it's a perfect example of a strong scummer bussing/carrying his team mates while putting forth loads of effort. in fact in normal just now, rels, the guy who was super duper active and townie, won by getting town to lynch a terrible looking lurker XD it is quite common a) because townies suck b) because scum rule(tmi) good scum players almost always look pristine, especially when the scum team builds their web around them. as for pushing me this cycle, she making the optimal play, by going after the guy whose attacking her, she can 1) defend herself while 2) pushing me. At the same time she can always jump on shape if things change but I will switch because I think I see what you are trying to do. Shape doesn't have much going in his favour either, save the harder push from DYH, but I'm still finding more ATM from an associative reads standpoint on gumshoe But I'll continue with your next post and go through the motions with Shape to be fully sure. she placed herself optimally. So is scum playing exceptional(hts)? Or is scum playing derp(shape)? judging from my experience in times like this (as I said, I've been in this exact situation at least 3 times) basic theory of mafia (that scum will look townier than town so long as they can bus thier team mates and are skilled) understanding of how this scum team worked (hts was the space ship, sl and dyh were the boosters/rockets) and nks (people who demonstrated a capacity to push hts) plus the fact that i've seen shape play lethargically/terribly very recently and get mislynched for it, I am rather confident about my vote here. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 12:27 GMT
#1155
Well. @HTS I tried to defend you the best I could. I will be around before deadline to see if you are worthy to not get lynched. | ||
Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
May 03 2016 13:07 GMT
#1156
EGADS AND FLASHES OF NOISE! LANDS UPON MY BROKEN HOME, STRIKING OUT MY INTERNET ACCESSES, ONCE AGAIN! THE WEATHERMAN, NORMALLY WRONG, WAS FUCKING RIGHT FOR ONCE, FOR BETTER OR WORSE! + Show Spoiler [to prove I am not kidding] + https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/Wilmington+NC+USNC0760:1:US And it is storming right now so idk if I even will be around towards later today near deadline :/. Anyways, Time to go gosu bonjaw mode. Where to start. random Name selector has picked KOSHI for the start off. Which, would be where I would of started, therefore, I must be kin with this selector. Off the top of my head, Koshi is basically town. I do still have tinfoil (Primarily to do with blue hunting, and some other things) yet, in order for him to be scum, he had to have mimic his town meta to a point of where people believe it. And he has. And according to what I know from mouths (storm/Starwars) that is hard for him to do. He also claims to know me meta wise, which is true to a degree. Koshi has played with me as town and scum, yet the last true town game we played in (not counting the hydra newbie because Kush was who did a lot for meh due to cell) was nut. And if we do include the Hydra game, there are a lot of parallels from that game to here (as D1 to D2(ish) I didn't have a lot of time) So long winded short, Koshi does know the mafia side of me, yet, Not heavily on my town side (tho, do/should know some what) On May 03 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: Shape who was 0 effort this game said this about a mafia: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 01:10 Shapelog wrote: DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read. SaltShaker Kinda debating putting him in the scum lean cat. (I did) I would expect him to do more after saying most people are going to wait to post (his 3rd post.) Also this post really doesn't give much if you look at it: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts A lot of his town reads aren't really explained (TT) and just feels rushed in a way. He is kinda avoids a read on 3 people (talks about FF, but doesn't actually really gives a read, more so on the threads interaction on FF) (HTS statement was pretty none positional) (and I have really no clue what he means on mine lol) He also doesn't seem to go after anyone other than GB. And focuses on GB on his next post. Which is pretty impressive. After he gave that list post he did nothing to push either sl or figure out DYH their alignment though. But turned it miraculously around and he voted mafia sl on D1. Impressive once more. But looking at his post he kinda was looking to get off him. Why? Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: ##Vote: Sicklucker My reasoning in my list + Still not being here Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is. Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 07:10 Shapelog wrote: Hmmm. I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote. On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote: On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote: On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote: LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum. And this is different than every other game how? Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow. It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately. You're right, it's been a while I guess. I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today. On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ##vote sicklucker frig off damdred On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote HTS Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.) ↑ please watch how FF was voting fecalfeast. The same person Shape thought was mafia. But for some reason right after voting sl, Shape goes attack the person who wants to vote sl with him. Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote: Saltshaker, you finally decided to show up. Just 30 mins roughly from deadline. Yay.... Prob. my 4/5 post or w/e ↑ Tinfoil (mafia talking to each other) BUT There is also no actual attempt from Shape to read sl. Just this. Strange when Shape was scumreading sl? And D2 he again ended on mafia!! Impressive once more. And D3 he did nothing because there was 0 pressure. Pushed the GB a bit but didn't put his hearth really into it. Also pushed another town lynch in TT already. Just doing what is needed. Blending in and making the right cases on the right people. For D4 he didn't even vote. Which is not normal for Shape. I do believe he has really problems connecting to the internet but I also think that as town he would find a way to show his commitment to solving the game and wouldn't get catched by internet failure. Probably voted his scumread when he entered the thread. etc etc. The guy is just playing reactionary D3 and D4 and is getting rewarded for it by dumbass shit townreads that people give him. I never understood why people townread him. Both HTS and gumshoe and this TW. And GB. Only TT was skeptical and said he was probably town because the mafia spewed him town. Which was exactly my read on Shape but some dumbasses lynched TT and some other dumbasses didn't vote. But w.e that happened. D5 more nothing. Just get him lynched. Last 3 cycles it is mafia riding to victory because town is fucking retarded to the maximum. Gumshoe. Read this fucking case carefully. And tell me why the fuck you want to lynch somebody who wrote 5 billion words over Shape. Who has no real reason to be town except GAME FUCKING RELATED EVENTS. While HTS was pushed by SL While HTS made a shitton of questionable post. (which at that amount could come from town trying to solve over mafia trying to hide) While HTS is really trying to solve the game. day after day. First off, about the FF wanting SL dead thing. ironically enough, In devil I voted with my top scum read, Saltshaker (who was town), onto Palmar (who was also town.) But anyways, FF wanted SL to die, then, for some odd reason, changed his vote to HTS after saying he wanted to vote off SL. So yes, I was skeptic about that. And then proceed to vote FF off. Your Tinfoil pleases me. As all Tinfoil does. I don't normally push hard as town tho. It was actually why I made the JAS smurf until I failed that, and became Just Another Shapelog. And yes, my cases turned up being wrong after all, But that is mafia in a nutshell. Is it normal for people not to vote lol? All jokes aside, I prob. should of place my vote (even if it was on me, since I think we could self vote this game). I was debating between TT and HTS (going back and forth, reading games etc) and then lost internet . Do agree with you tho, with the "he should done it." statement i've played reaction based town before. second newbie i was in (one I replaced) people got onto me (IIRC) for it. Oh boy...The early days *stutters* The weatherman is a bitch | ||
Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
May 03 2016 13:08 GMT
#1157
On May 03 2016 20:44 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: Shape who was 0 effort this game said this about a mafia: On April 22 2016 01:10 Shapelog wrote: DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read. SaltShaker Kinda debating putting him in the scum lean cat. (I did) I would expect him to do more after saying most people are going to wait to post (his 3rd post.) Also this post really doesn't give much if you look at it: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts A lot of his town reads aren't really explained (TT) and just feels rushed in a way. He is kinda avoids a read on 3 people (talks about FF, but doesn't actually really gives a read, more so on the threads interaction on FF) (HTS statement was pretty none positional) (and I have really no clue what he means on mine lol) He also doesn't seem to go after anyone other than GB. And focuses on GB on his next post. Which is pretty impressive. After he gave that list post he did nothing to push either sl or figure out DYH their alignment though. But turned it miraculously around and he voted mafia sl on D1. Impressive once more. But looking at his post he kinda was looking to get off him. Why? On April 22 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: ##Vote: Sicklucker My reasoning in my list + Still not being here Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is. On April 22 2016 07:10 Shapelog wrote: Hmmm. I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote. On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote: On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote: On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote: LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum. And this is different than every other game how? Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow. It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately. You're right, it's been a while I guess. I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today. On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ##vote sicklucker frig off damdred On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote HTS Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.) ↑ please watch how FF was voting fecalfeast. The same person Shape thought was mafia. But for some reason right after voting sl, Shape goes attack the person who wants to vote sl with him. On April 22 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote: Saltshaker, you finally decided to show up. Just 30 mins roughly from deadline. Yay.... Prob. my 4/5 post or w/e ↑ Tinfoil (mafia talking to each other) BUT There is also no actual attempt from Shape to read sl. Just this. Strange when Shape was scumreading sl? And D2 he again ended on mafia!! Impressive once more. And D3 he did nothing because there was 0 pressure. Pushed the GB a bit but didn't put his hearth really into it. Also pushed another town lynch in TT already. Just doing what is needed. Blending in and making the right cases on the right people. For D4 he didn't even vote. Which is not normal for Shape. I do believe he has really problems connecting to the internet but I also think that as town he would find a way to show his commitment to solving the game and wouldn't get catched by internet failure. Probably voted his scumread when he entered the thread. etc etc. The guy is just playing reactionary D3 and D4 and is getting rewarded for it by dumbass shit townreads that people give him. I never understood why people townread him. Both HTS and gumshoe and this TW. And GB. Only TT was skeptical and said he was probably town because the mafia spewed him town. Which was exactly my read on Shape but some dumbasses lynched TT and some other dumbasses didn't vote. But w.e that happened. D5 more nothing. Just get him lynched. Last 3 cycles it is mafia riding to victory because town is fucking retarded to the maximum. Gumshoe. Read this fucking case carefully. And tell me why the fuck you want to lynch somebody who wrote 5 billion words over Shape. Who has no real reason to be town except GAME FUCKING RELATED EVENTS. While HTS was pushed by SL While HTS made a shitton of questionable post. (which at that amount could come from town trying to solve over mafia trying to hide) While HTS is really trying to solve the game. day after day. point 1: zero effort- hyperbole. point 2: seems like your muddling this up, but yeah, just seems like derp to me. If dude knew if ff was going to flip green he would not have voted ff at the last sec. the end. point 3: shape is not a pushy player and he wasnt leading town sentiment, he was probs just lazy/realistic. Like I blatantly defended sl that day, so my criteria for scummy regarding this lynch is "who was afraid to look bad" and shape def doesnt fall into that category. point 4: you vaguely brush over how he lands on mafia and treat this as a scum point... gonna need more than that. point 5: if hts is the final scummer, we can assume he was having a hard time pushing as no one was actually scum XD which may very well explain his hesitance, for proof though I was also busy, I was frustrated with the situation as well making the game hard to play at all. point 6: I didnt vote due to a combination of gb disappointment and work, that shows there is a precedent for a townie showcasing this behaviors ether way therefore it is null. point 7: of course a player will look reactionary when they dont really know who scum is (ie scum is one of thier hard town reads) point 8: read it carefully. point 9: we've already explained hts's behavior, 1: it's her last game she wants to win 2: her scum team is beneath her skill level so she can buss if need be 3: Shes generally skilled and active as ethier side. Shape may very well just be a shit townie, we def have lots of those always. point 10: Hts was only pushed by sl once she started pushing him(around when he looked like the lynch) she eventually voted off him, and he voted off her FOR LITERALLY NO GIVEN REASON ON TO YOU. 11: Post day 2, hts does not have to play scummy, she just has to not die. 12: As we said, last game, usually active, nai. 12/40 Phoneposting from here on out so bear with me. First things first. Yes I'll confirm it's my last game. This isn't alignment indicative obviously. Second Koshi, I thought you were aiming to put pressure on Shapelog like you did FF day 1 to just play/do something in mylo but I'll say this. I'll sum up my reasoning for preferring voting gumshoe in a few bullet points if you don't want to read or read my filter 1 taking several things out of context in my gameplay, even in this last post there are several leaps of logic he is making 2 associative reads (my last long post) are showing a stronger correlation between him vs shape 3 day 1 play more specifically the read progression on sicklucker in conjunction with his voting day 1 indicates he is saving his scum teammate sicklucker Additionally what he is doing is taking a fear read (saying I'm active and a good player as either alignment) and using it amongst other points to justify why it could only be me who is mafia Another example of that is how he used/analysed the nk wifom. Additionally he puts me on a team based on an interaction that could come from either alignment without considering the additional interactions I've had with those players. 4 the manner in which he voted me from the off in mylo is probably the most suspicious thing to me given his justification and his subsequent explanation for saying that I could convince Koshi to lynch him makes zero sense based on - Koshi's repeated lynch preference between Shape and myself - Koshi's and my repeated difficulty in working together all game | ||
Koshi
Belgium38331 Posts
May 03 2016 13:14 GMT
#1158
They keep going after each other so w.e | ||
Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
May 03 2016 13:14 GMT
#1159
Shapelog, why you are wasting time on Koshi, fuck if I knew. He isn't and should not get lynched. Gumshoe and I are not voting him. What are your thoughts on my case against gumshoe, or his points on me? You said you were catching up on our filters, did you have any thoughts there? If you are town, this line of play is quite frustrating from you. | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
May 03 2016 13:18 GMT
#1160
On May 03 2016 22:08 Half the Sky wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 20:44 gumshoe wrote: On May 03 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: Shape who was 0 effort this game said this about a mafia: On April 22 2016 01:10 Shapelog wrote: DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read. SaltShaker Kinda debating putting him in the scum lean cat. (I did) I would expect him to do more after saying most people are going to wait to post (his 3rd post.) Also this post really doesn't give much if you look at it: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts A lot of his town reads aren't really explained (TT) and just feels rushed in a way. He is kinda avoids a read on 3 people (talks about FF, but doesn't actually really gives a read, more so on the threads interaction on FF) (HTS statement was pretty none positional) (and I have really no clue what he means on mine lol) He also doesn't seem to go after anyone other than GB. And focuses on GB on his next post. Which is pretty impressive. After he gave that list post he did nothing to push either sl or figure out DYH their alignment though. But turned it miraculously around and he voted mafia sl on D1. Impressive once more. But looking at his post he kinda was looking to get off him. Why? On April 22 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: ##Vote: Sicklucker My reasoning in my list + Still not being here Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is. On April 22 2016 07:10 Shapelog wrote: Hmmm. I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote. On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote: On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote: On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote: LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum. And this is different than every other game how? Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow. It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately. You're right, it's been a while I guess. I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today. On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ##vote sicklucker frig off damdred On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote HTS Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.) ↑ please watch how FF was voting fecalfeast. The same person Shape thought was mafia. But for some reason right after voting sl, Shape goes attack the person who wants to vote sl with him. On April 22 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote: Saltshaker, you finally decided to show up. Just 30 mins roughly from deadline. Yay.... Prob. my 4/5 post or w/e ↑ Tinfoil (mafia talking to each other) BUT There is also no actual attempt from Shape to read sl. Just this. Strange when Shape was scumreading sl? And D2 he again ended on mafia!! Impressive once more. And D3 he did nothing because there was 0 pressure. Pushed the GB a bit but didn't put his hearth really into it. Also pushed another town lynch in TT already. Just doing what is needed. Blending in and making the right cases on the right people. For D4 he didn't even vote. Which is not normal for Shape. I do believe he has really problems connecting to the internet but I also think that as town he would find a way to show his commitment to solving the game and wouldn't get catched by internet failure. Probably voted his scumread when he entered the thread. etc etc. The guy is just playing reactionary D3 and D4 and is getting rewarded for it by dumbass shit townreads that people give him. I never understood why people townread him. Both HTS and gumshoe and this TW. And GB. Only TT was skeptical and said he was probably town because the mafia spewed him town. Which was exactly my read on Shape but some dumbasses lynched TT and some other dumbasses didn't vote. But w.e that happened. D5 more nothing. Just get him lynched. Last 3 cycles it is mafia riding to victory because town is fucking retarded to the maximum. Gumshoe. Read this fucking case carefully. And tell me why the fuck you want to lynch somebody who wrote 5 billion words over Shape. Who has no real reason to be town except GAME FUCKING RELATED EVENTS. While HTS was pushed by SL While HTS made a shitton of questionable post. (which at that amount could come from town trying to solve over mafia trying to hide) While HTS is really trying to solve the game. day after day. point 1: zero effort- hyperbole. point 2: seems like your muddling this up, but yeah, just seems like derp to me. If dude knew if ff was going to flip green he would not have voted ff at the last sec. the end. point 3: shape is not a pushy player and he wasnt leading town sentiment, he was probs just lazy/realistic. Like I blatantly defended sl that day, so my criteria for scummy regarding this lynch is "who was afraid to look bad" and shape def doesnt fall into that category. point 4: you vaguely brush over how he lands on mafia and treat this as a scum point... gonna need more than that. point 5: if hts is the final scummer, we can assume he was having a hard time pushing as no one was actually scum XD which may very well explain his hesitance, for proof though I was also busy, I was frustrated with the situation as well making the game hard to play at all. point 6: I didnt vote due to a combination of gb disappointment and work, that shows there is a precedent for a townie showcasing this behaviors ether way therefore it is null. point 7: of course a player will look reactionary when they dont really know who scum is (ie scum is one of thier hard town reads) point 8: read it carefully. point 9: we've already explained hts's behavior, 1: it's her last game she wants to win 2: her scum team is beneath her skill level so she can buss if need be 3: Shes generally skilled and active as ethier side. Shape may very well just be a shit townie, we def have lots of those always. point 10: Hts was only pushed by sl once she started pushing him(around when he looked like the lynch) she eventually voted off him, and he voted off her FOR LITERALLY NO GIVEN REASON ON TO YOU. 11: Post day 2, hts does not have to play scummy, she just has to not die. 12: As we said, last game, usually active, nai. 12/40 Phoneposting from here on out so bear with me. First things first. Yes I'll confirm it's my last game. This isn't alignment indicative obviously. Second Koshi, I thought you were aiming to put pressure on Shapelog like you did FF day 1 to just play/do something in mylo but I'll say this. I'll sum up my reasoning for preferring voting gumshoe in a few bullet points if you don't want to read or read my filter 1 taking several things out of context in my gameplay, even in this last post there are several leaps of logic he is making 2 associative reads (my last long post) are showing a stronger correlation between him vs shape 3 day 1 play more specifically the read progression on sicklucker in conjunction with his voting day 1 indicates he is saving his scum teammate sicklucker Additionally what he is doing is taking a fear read (saying I'm active and a good player as either alignment) and using it amongst other points to justify why it could only be me who is mafia Another example of that is how he used/analysed the nk wifom. Additionally he puts me on a team based on an interaction that could come from either alignment without considering the additional interactions I've had with those players. 4 the manner in which he voted me from the off in mylo is probably the most suspicious thing to me given his justification and his subsequent explanation for saying that I could convince Koshi to lynch him makes zero sense based on - Koshi's repeated lynch preference between Shape and myself - Koshi's and my repeated difficulty in working together all game your vote on me has little to do with koshi, you voted me for efficiencies sake and also because you set it up earlier with the gb/me waffle. You can always vote shape at any time (as I pointed out) so for the moment makes sense to vote the guy you a) set up on earlier b) is attacking you. also this bieng your last game is a big deal, as we can expect heightened effort from a skilled player, it isnt alignment indicative, but it is an essential piece to explaining how you've played you could've played such a good scum game. The other piece are sl's interactions with you (only attacking you because you attacked him, only really going after you once it looked like he would get lynched) and dyh (tr for days, you consistently giving him the benefit of the doubt until he was too inactive to ignore) that in conjunction with my inability to place shape with dyh and sl (thier interactions are really not likely to be scum on scum, seeing as you think im scum, you should understand my points on that matter) also hts, I | ||
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