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On March 02 2016 05:47 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:11 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 08:06 TheCow wrote:
Team Anal Prolapse and Team Fairly Odd Couple are my current pool. I kinda get your read on FF's team, but what about Marv's team is making you think they are scum? Also what do you think about Sandroba's read on you? And what does it suggest about his alignment? First one is in regards to your opening post. On March 01 2016 05:39 sandroba wrote:
His post sounds fake as shit. Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) and it's mostly filler discussion right when the game is starting to pick up, and his post itselft is filler with no reasoning for anything or any new ideas. The comentary on the meta ignores the fact we are questioning the player who made said meta and dismisses it for no reason. Pretty much as generic filler fake post as you can get. Doesn't sound like a townie interested in people's alignments at all. On March 01 2016 06:13 sandroba wrote:
Quite an arduous job to read without the filter function, but from the town game I read from him his tone is more inquisitive / tentative / hedging his bets as opposed to more assertive in his mafia game.
I gather that Cow and qop played together a bit so Cow sheeping qop's sentinel read does not look as fake as I had thoght. Still, his overall tone looks more in line with his mafia game. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier.
I actually didn't connect that that was a reply to my question, wish he had answered about why he though marv/spike is scum
Humm, I actually kinda find it towny that he's calling you scummy but says your slot is town.
Also my townlean on Damdred is pretty strong right now....
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Well ok I no longer believe Team Innocent is scum.
##Unvote
Now I've got about half an hour to make up my mind.
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FYI, I won't be available at deadline and I assume Koshi won't be either. Our vote will probably be locked on FF/Sent. Sentinel's latest posts haven't swayed me to think he is town. FF is still absent.
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Felkyr I feel better about cownado's lynch. If you don't hate that lynch I ask if you would be so kind to leave your vote there.
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I see Damdred taking the slow townread -> PoE style of play that he does a lot. He's making reads and pushing the game forward. I thought his reads list was pretty spot on.
I disagree Cow is as scummy as you seem to think, I kinda see what you are getting at with your read but his posts could easily just be poor town play.
I also really think we need to lynch by considering the alignment of the slot, not an individual player.
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On March 02 2016 06:03 sandroba wrote:
Felkyr I feel better about cownado's lynch. If you don't hate that lynch I ask if you would be so kind to leave your vote there.
Explain to me why Damdred is scum. Slowly, I am new and don't see it right now.
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Wow I just looked at FF's filter.
I understand why you are upset with him UN...
I no longer have any qualms lynching them.
##Vote Team Anal Prolapse
You're clever scheme of having a team-name I don't want to think about was for naught!
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FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row
I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm.
Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like.
His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff.
Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it.
I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment.
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On March 02 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
I understand why you are upset with him UN...
Your vote says otherwise.
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On March 02 2016 06:11 Damdred wrote:
FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row
I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm.
Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like.
His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff.
Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it.
I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment.
It's more on cow than you per se. I didn't like him since that sheep vote.
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On March 02 2016 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still waiting on explanation of this
[quote] lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town? I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv. I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good. Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all.
So Sentinel, did you look into Spikey? What do you think?
I just want to point out that I reread Sentinel's filter and despite his recent activity there are still absolutely no reads. He is 'looking into people' but he hasn't come out with any real attempt to solve the game. He just voted the other wagon for no good reason (isn't that convenient). Despite the pressure he isn't trying. His responses to Kush's questions were also bad. Most of what he is saying is 'I would bus but I don't know who mafia is right now so I don't know who I would bus'.
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On March 02 2016 06:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
I understand why you are upset with him UN... Your vote says otherwise.
Nah it makes perfect sense that your mad at him for giving up when you guys rolled scum.
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And as for sent his filter reads like he's trying to look involved without a ton of content to me
He doesn't have a lot of stances to me, he fails to really look for scum until an easy target was available them just hopped on with omgus.
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On March 02 2016 05:09 sandroba wrote:
Why are some of you saying Damdred is town? I understand saying he is not auto scum, but I don't see a single thing that jumps out townie to me.
I also don't understand why someone wouldn't think thecow is the absolute best vote for today by far. Some of the things being said here about other teams are fair, but none of it is as strong as the evidence against cow. All your hunches can wait, let's lynch the mafia first.
I also think the evidence against FF is stronger than that against TheCow. Isn't FF supposed to be the Veteran? I agree he could be town and just be gone, but same can be said of TheCow. TheCow looks better because he is newbie. I'd give him a pass (for now).
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On March 02 2016 06:15 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
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lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town? I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv. I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good. Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all. So Sentinel, did you look into Spikey? What do you think? I just want to point out that I reread Sentinel's filter and despite his recent activity there are still absolutely no reads. He is 'looking into people' but he hasn't come out with any real attempt to solve the game. He just voted the other wagon for no good reason (isn't that convenient). Despite the pressure he isn't trying. His responses to Kush's questions were also bad. Most of what he is saying is 'I would bus but I don't know who mafia is right now so I don't know who I would bus'.
Regarding Spike, he's been doing better these last 24 hours than before, but still can't conclude much.
I'm not going to promise anything I can't deliver. What I can say is that kush's team is in the green, which as you can see is a judgment I promised to make (regarding kush, not his towniness). Still wondering about you but qob seems green to me as well.
My responses were bad because the questions were bad. "If you were mafia who'd you shoot. No, who'd you shoot right now? No forget their alignment, who'd you shoot?" If I could vote for myself this game I would, just for that. kush is still town tho, just not the best at asking questions.
Now, regarding my vote. You're absolutely right. The thing is, I've looked at this game and can't find any conclusive scums at the moment. If I had to say my two reddest reads right now, it would be cow/damdy (mostly due to cow, partially due to inactivity), and Rels/Race which is kind of a stretch because I kinda like the former but not the latter. I'll have to look at Rels at some point. Or maybe I won't if you people kill me. Then I'll fuck off and hope the next game turns out better than this one for me.
Now one of those happens to have a wagon on it. More importantly, its main competition which is currently winning is the team that includes me. Since I obviously can't scumhunt when I'm dead, the next best option is to not be dead. So I'm voting for my tenuous scumread because it's better than no scumread at all.
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On March 02 2016 06:20 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
I understand why you are upset with him UN... Your vote says otherwise. Nah it makes perfect sense that your mad at him for giving up when you guys rolled scum.
If FF doesn't show up by N1 (assuming we survive) can I just solo this one?
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I'm upset that damdy isn't upset that I'm voting him.
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Damdred what do you think of Sentinel's response to my remarks?
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The undertone of that is because he's mafia in case anyone is drowning in my subtlety.
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