On December 29 2015 06:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning.
Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning.
he's been too robotic/reasonable for me since the beginning...so tone read basically
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning. he's been too robotic/reasonable for me since the beginning...so tone read basically | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:56 Holyflare wrote: I can't find Ness' off site game link, if someone can link me it that would be nice since the only thing preventing him from being mafia for me was his defence and his filter length. On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote: Alrighty! So, heres my defense. First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum. Show nested quote + Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two: Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on. http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7 Show nested quote + At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything. You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time. Show nested quote + but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all. ...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this- Show nested quote + Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious. Why would you band wagon this early with no reads? Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose. Show nested quote + Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret. On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious. Show nested quote + If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for. this. this rubs me the wrong way. 1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it? 2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me? 3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical. Show nested quote + 1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions? 2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal? 3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square? Smh answered those first 2 already. but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest. But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all. it's in this post | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:55 nooniansoong wrote: @gb can you address your unsound logic? Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to | ||
sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:55 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:54 sicklucker wrote: wait ok vivax claimed tihs changes thing. Im not sure if this makes him more likely mafia. But if hes town this makes hf almost certainly maifia. A qeustion do you guys expect a town jk to cc here? because if so that makes vivax town. Which is more then enough reason to lynch hf here. So im asking TL mafia to not be pussy and take down the kingpin and not his potential lacky you know the more you comment on things before fully catching up the more it looks like you're mafia just trying to fit in? idc if vivax is town im so sure your mafia and i will probably try to get you lynched here. Im sure it wont work because no one has any balls around here tho | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:58 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:56 Holyflare wrote: I can't find Ness' off site game link, if someone can link me it that would be nice since the only thing preventing him from being mafia for me was his defence and his filter length. Show nested quote + On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote: Alrighty! So, heres my defense. First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum. Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two: Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on. http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7 At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything. You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time. but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all. ...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this- Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious. Why would you band wagon this early with no reads? Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose. Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret. On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious. If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for. this. this rubs me the wrong way. 1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it? 2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me? 3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical. 1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions? 2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal? 3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square? Smh answered those first 2 already. but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest. But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all. it's in this post ty I don't like that links turn black when viewed now it's horribly blendy. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
not sure that i really want to sheep stubborn rayn on vivax...damdy will be the one i sheep then | ||
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL You're gunna be dissapointed, I effectively gave up. Town is gunna lynch me and call be bad for days. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL You're gunna be dissapointed, I effectively gave up. Town is gunna lynch me and call be bad for days. who's mafia out of GB, shining, and rels? | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:26 nooniansoong wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote: On December 29 2015 06:06 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: I'm back I agree that it doesn't make sense Mafia holyflare doesn't vote Tictock if Tictock is town. I'm voting Tictock then. Are you saying if TT flips scum, HF is scum? Because if TT was town, scum HF would have kept his vote on him? Yes That is bad logic. That logic actually means if TT is town, HF cannot be scum. Not that I agree with the premises. | ||
The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On December 29 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL I don't like this post, nor 1 of the previous ones. I would be willing to boot up shennanie.exe for this guy, and gb, and maybe rels Do what you gotta do. Just remember you suck at reading me and I've pointed this out before. I guess you really can't backtrack once you scum me, either, because you did that last time you rolled scum vs me and I caught you. You had to pretend you were wrong that game after our shouting match. I'm down to yell again if you are. And shenannying onto GB means you'd be voting with me, since out of those 2(not counting myself), that's who I'd vote. Decisions, decisions. | ||
sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Vote Count - Day 1 Tictock (10): Vivax (3): ExO_ (2): Coagulation, MoosyDoosy N e s s (1): nooniansong (1): sicklucker (1): Onegu Trfel (1): boxerfred Alakaslam (1): nooniansoong GlowingBear (1): Holyflare Holyflare (1): The Shining (0): boxerfred (0): ObiWanShinobi (0): Palmar (0): Artanis[Xp] (0): rsoultin (0) ExO_ (0): MoosyDoosy (0): Koshi (0): Coagulation (0): Not Voting (3): Rels, Waylanner, The Shining At this time, Tictock is slated to be lynched. Day 1 ends in on Monday, Dec 28 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:00 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL You're gunna be dissapointed, I effectively gave up. Town is gunna lynch me and call be bad for days. who's mafia out of GB, shining, and rels? GB... though I haven't really seen Rels post so I don't really know. From the couple of TS posts I read he's town. Rsoul is right about GB's tone. Last 2 games as town he played something like I've been this game. But here GB is being rather diplomatic and trying to sound reasonable. When Town!GB was trying to lynch me in Haunted he was being pretty unreasonable spouting shit like "Give me my lynch!" and "I wanna be right!" Though outside of your question I prob wouldn't lynch him for that alone. | ||
nooniansoong
1538 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:01 nooniansoong wrote: @GB see this quote tree Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:26 nooniansoong wrote: On December 29 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote: On December 29 2015 06:06 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: I'm back I agree that it doesn't make sense Mafia holyflare doesn't vote Tictock if Tictock is town. I'm voting Tictock then. Are you saying if TT flips scum, HF is scum? Because if TT was town, scum HF would have kept his vote on him? Yes That is bad logic. That logic actually means if TT is town, HF cannot be scum. Not that I agree with the premises. It means my argument on him being Mafia is moot | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:01 The Shining wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote: On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL I don't like this post, nor 1 of the previous ones. I would be willing to boot up shennanie.exe for this guy, and gb, and maybe rels Do what you gotta do. Just remember you suck at reading me and I've pointed this out before. I guess you really can't backtrack once you scum me, either, because you did that last time you rolled scum vs me and I caught you. You had to pretend you were wrong that game after our shouting match. I'm down to yell again if you are. And shenannying onto GB means you'd be voting with me, since out of those 2(not counting myself), that's who I'd vote. Decisions, decisions. Well i thought you were town earlier cuz you sounded pretty honest, but then you're all wishy-washy about your 2nd biggest scum read and refuse to vote when you really should have already voted if you believed your read and sound like you're pre-emptively distancing; which could mean you're TMI setting yourself up to look good post-flip. I don't wanna vote TT cuz he the only person voting my top scum read is a dumpster reason too. | ||
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Though ya, you are right, which is why I'm not actually scum reading GB for that. | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:02 sicklucker wrote: Gb your willing to vote hf? I'd rather have Tictock flipping to see if I am right | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:04 Tictock wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2015 07:00 ritoky wrote: On December 29 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL You're gunna be dissapointed, I effectively gave up. Town is gunna lynch me and call be bad for days. who's mafia out of GB, shining, and rels? GB... though I haven't really seen Rels post so I don't really know. From the couple of TS posts I read he's town. Rsoul is right about GB's tone. Last 2 games as town he played something like I've been this game. But here GB is being rather diplomatic and trying to sound reasonable. When Town!GB was trying to lynch me in Haunted he was being pretty unreasonable spouting shit like "Give me my lynch!" and "I wanna be right!" Though outside of your question I prob wouldn't lynch him for that alone. GB got in a 5 page shouting match with HF.... | ||
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