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Because I read rayn based on a variety of things. It's less than thought process; there's like a bounciness to his reads. And usually, I'm able to read him off the bounce. Like the switch between progressions and thoughts is generally the important thing.
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On September 16 2015 01:35 geript wrote:
Because I read rayn based on a variety of things. It's less than thought process; there's like a bounciness to his reads. And usually, I'm able to read him off the bounce. Like the switch between progressions and thoughts is generally the important thing.
*raises eyebrow*
i like what you wrote about palmar. i like less how you've handled damdred and whatever this read is on rayn.
the damdred thing feels like you made a mistake last night with how you approached him and decided to go for the full backpedal today. but i'm not sure enough that that has to be the narrative.
can you tell me why you were suspicious of him yesterday?
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back later tonight at some stage. got stuffs on.
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Also i am backing down from my town read on Cephiro.
I have to check somethign regarding that, i might do that today, might not if i am as sleepy as i am rn after whisky.
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I'm not sure if I want to push Willie today or not at this point moosey. I think he's decently scummy and you've summed up some of the problems I have with him nicely. Bit I have to think on that a bit more.
Gwript still somewhat troubles me some of the things he's come back with feel more towny than scummy today. I'm still leaning town on him.
I know the interactions between jat and rayn were interesting to me though. Its a bit hard to explain but part of it is that jat felt a bit toned down and trying to get along during the discourse instead of his generally fillterless self. This is going to be impossible for me to push probably but maybe someone will listen to me.
Besides that the post about jat finding wil scummy and instead of giving more thoughts on scummy thing aettles on talking about geript without a conclusion is interesting I suppose.
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I am somewhat willing to swap Cephiro with Palmar btw. But 1 is most likely mafia.
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On September 16 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure if I want to push Willie today or not at this point moosey. I think he's decently scummy and you've summed up some of the problems I have with him nicely. Bit I have to think on that a bit more.
Gwript still somewhat troubles me some of the things he's come back with feel more towny than scummy today. I'm still leaning town on him.
I know the interactions between jat and rayn were interesting to me though. Its a bit hard to explain but part of it is that jat felt a bit toned down and trying to get along during the discourse instead of his generally fillterless self. This is going to be impossible for me to push probably but maybe someone will listen to me.
Besides that the post about jat finding wil scummy and instead of giving more thoughts on scummy thing aettles on talking about geript without a conclusion is interesting I suppose.
2 votes on JAT already.
Nobody needs to listen to you about JAT, nor do you have to find more reasons, he is mafia. The End.
People that don't see it are bad.
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On September 16 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
- Claiming a trap is an easy way to open up and pretend you're doing work. He also seems eager to point out it was a test almost as if people should know that he was trying to do work. I also don't know what he was expecting because he could clearly see we were going to just answer sarcastically because we were all just bantering.
- huE thinks I'm scum because of A. VT claim B. filler
- Sheeps your post immediately on geript when it was already brought up earlier.
- Doesn't answer marv's questioning and instead claims he knows what he's doing and says marv is being overblown
- His 3rd page of filter has almost no relevance when you look at thread context. He was just talking about things that no one else was talking about.
- Biggest part is tone. Damdred will probably read this as well, but if you look at context he seems opportunistic and willing to jump at things as well as a bit desperate in trying to appear townie. This is a list on Coyote
Bolded is the only thing that might make him mafia. And I should have to believe you because I don't see it myself.
all the other things are simply not making him mafia. They are just random events that town or mafia could do. Seriously, traps are townie, rarely a mafia does it. And most "traps" are shit, and almost always the trapmaker feels like he needs to point out what a genius he was and that others "ruined" it. I can find examples. Like the one game rayn brought up, with Eden and geript and cephiro. It was dumb. cephiro claimed it was genius. geript wanted to lynch him for it. Dumb shit.
I don't even know why sheeping a post on geript is something mafia would do.
I also don't understand why a new player wouldn't or shouldn't antagonize this marv at the moment he did. Or a cocky town player couldn't do it.
No seriously. I don't get any point in this list.
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@Moosydoosy About the bolded, proof to me he is desperate.
Proof it to me. Because it reads like you use the word "desperate" to convince others while you can't proof the actual meaning of the word.
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On September 16 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure if I want to push Willie today or not at this point moosey. I think he's decently scummy and you've summed up some of the problems I have with him nicely. Bit I have to think on that a bit more.
Gwript still somewhat troubles me some of the things he's come back with feel more towny than scummy today. I'm still leaning town on him.
I know the interactions between jat and rayn were interesting to me though. Its a bit hard to explain but part of it is that jat felt a bit toned down and trying to get along during the discourse instead of his generally fillterless self. This is going to be impossible for me to push probably but maybe someone will listen to me.
Besides that the post about jat finding wil scummy and instead of giving more thoughts on scummy thing aettles on talking about geript without a conclusion is interesting I suppose.
On September 16 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i am backing down from my town read on Cephiro.
I have to check somethign regarding that, i might do that today, might not if i am as sleepy as i am rn after whisky.
I'm willing to switch between Cephiro and Coyote although I do think that Coyote is worse off.
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opportunistic and desperate. big words.
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On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment.
into this:
On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did
1) things happen
2) geript calls palmar mafia
3) more things happen
4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously"
5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3).
6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense:
- geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for
- i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll
Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript?
Why is he desperate and opportunistic?
rofl
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Like actually i put a lot value on koshi's and geript's reads. I think i am better at reading palmar than either of those people and i do not believe palmar is mafia.
Thats why i am relooking into cephiro.
Thats another thing why i am more interested in jat. Koshi who i think is town thinks jat is mafia. Geript who us... well not townie says absolutely nothing about jat.
I understand this is not a reason to call anyone mafia, and i am not doing that, but for me it is a reason to look more into certain people.
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On September 16 2015 01:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:35 geript wrote:
Because I read rayn based on a variety of things. It's less than thought process; there's like a bounciness to his reads. And usually, I'm able to read him off the bounce. Like the switch between progressions and thoughts is generally the important thing. *raises eyebrow* i like what you wrote about palmar. i like less how you've handled damdred and whatever this read is on rayn. the damdred thing feels like you made a mistake last night with how you approached him and decided to go for the full backpedal today. but i'm not sure enough that that has to be the narrative. can you tell me why you were suspicious of him yesterday?
Tbh full backpedal feels about right. After catching up 18 pages and thinking about what he had said previous, the previous read felt wrong.
It had to do with one of his early reads or reads post. I think on cephiro or something I didn't think made sense for Damdred to make. But tbh I cba to look right now
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Sadly I am not a Mammalogist.
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Every next post that tries to put pressure on Willie can better be really good. Because dirt has been trown around and I am not impressed.
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On September 16 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
back later tonight at some stage. got stuffs on.
They better be purple.
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On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did
1) things happen
2) geript calls palmar mafia
3) more things happen
4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously"
5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3).
6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense:
- geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for
- i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl
He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out prior.
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On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did
1) things happen
2) geript calls palmar mafia
3) more things happen
4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously"
5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3).
6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense:
- geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for
- i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl
He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post at that point in time when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out by people prior.
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On September 16 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that. Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it. I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross. I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read. ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise. geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos. Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments. On September 15 2015 07:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i kind of like cephiro and i kind of don't like cephiro for personal reasons. all i know for certain is that i like Crime & Punishment. into this: On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 15 2015 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is this:
Here is what geript did
1) things happen
2) geript calls palmar mafia
3) more things happen
4) geript says palmar is mafia "becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously"
5) people ask him why this is his read, because palmar was not being super serious when geript first said he is mafia but instead during (3).
6) geript says palmar is in fact mafia because of his opener.
Now there are two things that do not make sense:
- geript changes his reasoning for reading palmar mafia for
- i believe, if geript was town, that he would have said, during (4) "palmar is mafia because his opener is scummy" if that's what he thought instead of something else.
And i can't see how he does this as town. Because when you give reasoning for your reads you are supposed to convince people to lynch mafia, not make shit up. so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript? Why is he desperate and opportunistic? rofl He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out prior.
Show me the posts.
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