• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:36
CEST 09:36
KST 16:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
NaDa's Body Soulkey on ASL S20 BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2178 users

[M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia - Page 170

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 168 169 170
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 29 2015 16:42 GMT
#3381
On September 30 2015 01:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I actually think this was a pretty good game. I was really afraid I'd get lynched in that last phase but I wasn't mad at all. Town played well, just got a bit unlucky with how unproductive day 2/3 are. Autolynches often actually don't really help town.

Cpehiro was a bad lynch because marv his case on cephiro + swing of people on Cephiro was not really that likely a buss.That and Cephiro played well. One of the few I read he posts from.

Day 1 was pretty ok from town and mafia. Both played well. Moos was a well deserved lynch for both teams.

geript lynch was avoidable in my eyes. But I didn't read those days.

Cephiro lynch was pretty bad, like I said. But then again Palmar aka you played really well so w.e. Should have been a lynch between Damdred and Palmar more imo.

Cephiro himself made a mistake though, not getting in front of his lynch early enough. He needed to exploit the fact I was away on sunday to make his case for being town, instead he sat and waited and let me take the initiative.

Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 29 2015 16:52 GMT
#3382
On September 29 2015 12:39 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 06:42 Koshi wrote:
On September 29 2015 06:39 deconduo wrote:
Thanks for playing everyone, and thanks to Kelsier for helping host. I'd appreciate any feedback on the setup, hosting etc.

I think this might have been a slightly town-sided setup, though the fact that the masons are not confirmed does offset that a bit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah it was townfavored to the max.

To balance it town needed at least a 2 shot vigi, scum RB should have been removed, town should have gotten a real cop and after D1 you should have killed the 3 people with the highest amount of votes on them.


Please speak to Artanis, Blazinghand and HalfTheSky in the future when you host again.


Tracker played well is better than cop. I am unsure how else I could have done better.

You played your role perfect. Really, perfect.


But a tracker is not better than a cop most of the times. I don't know if you could track the janitor. But you only had 1 person you could track, knowing they had a gf for kp delivery. A cop most of the times can check 2 mafia members. Making it more likely a mafia member under pressure will turn up red.

If marv/palmar was rb you would have been a useless role. While if you were a cop, only if Wile was gf you would have been useless.

Basically in this format you had 1 target (the RB), unless gf got lynched/shot. While a cop has more options. A cop green check is also somewhat more trustable for the same reason.

There was also an unaware miller who basically made the chance to hit correctly or disastrously for the tracker 50/50, or not hitting anything




tldr: The post I made there was just to whine about a previous game I played which had a very similar set up like this one, or at least was also a normal mini.

But it had a 2 shot vig, an aware miller, a cop while the scumteam had a framer and 2 goons. Also the host lynched on D1 3 people with the highest amount of votes.

I am afraid to look it up, but I think it also had 14 people so that town could misfire 2 times, and still not lose on 3 ml. Or shoot 2 tiems correctly and ml 5 times and not lose.

It was the most retarded piece of shit balanced game ever. I complained about it and people told me I was wrong per usual and the game was fine.

Obviously it was a piece of shit balanced shitgame and I was correct.




tldr tldr: Koshi is always right when it comes to balance. A couple hosts on this site are braindamaged.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 29 2015 16:53 GMT
#3383
On September 30 2015 01:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 01:40 Koshi wrote:
On September 29 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I actually think this was a pretty good game. I was really afraid I'd get lynched in that last phase but I wasn't mad at all. Town played well, just got a bit unlucky with how unproductive day 2/3 are. Autolynches often actually don't really help town.

Cpehiro was a bad lynch because marv his case on cephiro + swing of people on Cephiro was not really that likely a buss.That and Cephiro played well. One of the few I read he posts from.

Day 1 was pretty ok from town and mafia. Both played well. Moos was a well deserved lynch for both teams.

geript lynch was avoidable in my eyes. But I didn't read those days.

Cephiro lynch was pretty bad, like I said. But then again Palmar aka you played really well so w.e. Should have been a lynch between Damdred and Palmar more imo.

Cephiro himself made a mistake though, not getting in front of his lynch early enough. He needed to exploit the fact I was away on sunday to make his case for being town, instead he sat and waited and let me take the initiative.


oh yeah I remember that. That was somewhat bad. I somewhere read that "I am being mafia on purpose, I don't mind". Because people will always remember you had a couple suspicious moments in the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
September 29 2015 16:54 GMT
#3384
On September 30 2015 01:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 01:40 Koshi wrote:
On September 29 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I actually think this was a pretty good game. I was really afraid I'd get lynched in that last phase but I wasn't mad at all. Town played well, just got a bit unlucky with how unproductive day 2/3 are. Autolynches often actually don't really help town.

Cpehiro was a bad lynch because marv his case on cephiro + swing of people on Cephiro was not really that likely a buss.That and Cephiro played well. One of the few I read he posts from.

Day 1 was pretty ok from town and mafia. Both played well. Moos was a well deserved lynch for both teams.

geript lynch was avoidable in my eyes. But I didn't read those days.

Cephiro lynch was pretty bad, like I said. But then again Palmar aka you played really well so w.e. Should have been a lynch between Damdred and Palmar more imo.

Cephiro himself made a mistake though, not getting in front of his lynch early enough. He needed to exploit the fact I was away on sunday to make his case for being town, instead he sat and waited and let me take the initiative.


That doesn't make lynching him a better play. People should not only have seen what Koshi said but also and especially how cephiro played the eod when geript got lynched because that was insanely towny. And he continued to play like that in LYLO.
I could have understood a damdred mislynch to an extent but not a cephiro mislynch.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 29 2015 19:26 GMT
#3385
lol Cephiro was right the entire game and people thought he was mafia EVEN after 2 mafia had flipped.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 168 169 170
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech76
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1902
JulyZerg 65
HiyA 55
Nal_rA 45
Dewaltoss 43
ToSsGirL 35
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Bale 16
SilentControl 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm123
XcaliburYe17
League of Legends
JimRising 536
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K677
shoxiejesuss302
Other Games
summit1g7750
C9.Mang0325
XaKoH 151
Trikslyr17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick645
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 49
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo842
• Stunt462
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
2h 24m
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
Map Test Tournament
3h 24m
The PondCast
5h 24m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
1d 19h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.