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On September 15 2015 00:30 GeckoXp wrote: Here's a few questions, since I tried writing a good news for bw.de but failed to understand. Probably due to bad English.
1) There's a 3-0 win now? So the 4th set doesn't matter? 2) There are double walk overs? How do they work? Break the rules and get your match reverted and the future slot blockd by w.o.? 3) Where are the results? 4) Why is Artanis still alive, Wallace?
On September 14 2015 09:24 Eywa- wrote:3-0 is a win, but w/l is very significant, so there is a difference between 3-0, 4-0 and 3-1
Null match
To be updated - we need admins to help maintain the thread,
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hey when loser picks from the weekly map pool, can 1v1 loser pick the 2v2 map?
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On September 15 2015 02:17 EBPNationWars wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 00:30 GeckoXp wrote: Here's a few questions, since I tried writing a good news for bw.de but failed to understand. Probably due to bad English.
1) There's a 3-0 win now? So the 4th set doesn't matter? 2) There are double walk overs? How do they work? Break the rules and get your match reverted and the future slot blockd by w.o.? 3) Where are the results? 4) Why is Artanis still alive, Wallace? Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 09:24 Eywa- wrote:On September 14 2015 08:47 Metal[x] wrote:isn't a 3-0 a win? 3-0 is a win, but w/l is very significant, so there is a difference between 3-0, 4-0 and 3-1 Null match To be updated - we need admins to help maintain the thread,
btw there was a big problem in the 2v2,since we pick maps from the 5 maps of the week there was only 2 maps for 2v2 .. will be nice to have more maps for the 2v2
also even if everyone no likes fs,we as players the map we practise the most is FS and proly the only where we can show our best skills,we are already playing new maps,if fs is perm available for losser picks will be nice since we cant repeat maps others will be played aswell.
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On September 15 2015 02:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
btw there was a big problem in the 2v2,since we pick maps from the 5 maps of the week there was only 2 maps for 2v2 .. will be nice to have more maps for the 2v2
I'm pretty sure i saw somewhere that for the 2v2 u can pick from iccup /maps
edit: actually nothing talk about "iccup /maps" but its "any maps" so i guess we could use more clarity (but i'll assume its from the whole event map pool)
www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/494017-r-and-s-esports-bettingpro-nation-wars?page=5#88
On September 12 2015 02:58 EBPNationWars wrote: Update: Loser picks from the weekly map pool, not the whole map pool (exception: 2v2 - 2v2 can still pick any map).
So basically the whole list of maps for the event (picked from all the week list) give us this: + Show Spoiler + (2) Match Point (3) Aztec (4) Wind and Cloud (4) Sniper Ridge (2v2) (3) Tau Cross (ace) (2) Neo Overwatch (3) Longinus (4) 815 III (4) Circuit Breaker (2v2) (4) Jade (ace) (2) Bloody Ridge (3) Pathfinder (4) Andromeda (4) Othello (2v2) (4) Latin Quarter (ace) (2) Heartbreak Ridge (3) Outsider (4) Eddy (4) Fighting Spirit (2v2) (2) Destination (ace) (2) Chain Reaction (2) Mist (4) Latin Quarter (4) Icarus (2v2) (4) Gladiator (ace) (2) Blue Storm (3) Aztec (3) Tau Cross (4) Empire Of The Sun (2v2) (4) Fighting Spirit (ace) (2) Cross Game (2) Match Point (3) Longinus (3) Pathfinder (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Eddy (2) Queen's Bridge (2) Destination (3) Outsider (3) Aztec (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Othello (2) Match Point (2) Blue Storm (3) Longinus (3) Aztec (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Othello (2) Match Point (2) Blue Storm (3) Longinus (3) Aztec (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Othello
If you keep only the 4 players map and remove thoses listed mutiple times it give:
(4) Wind and Cloud (4) Sniper Ridge (4) 815 III (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Jade (4) Andromeda (4) Latin Quarter (4) Icarus (4) Gladiator (4) Empire Of The Sun (4) Eddy (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Othello
If an admin of the event can confirm or deny this please ^_^
(yep sorry fearthequeen i'm also editing ^^)
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Suggestion for admins: Update the Format/Rules on page 1 with all of the changes and details we need to know. (Map restriction for round robin, loser pick from only the 5 maps, 2v2 loser pick from whole ESBNW map pool, ect.) Much simpler than captains having to read every page of the thread to understand the rules.
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On September 15 2015 02:39 FyRe_DragOn wrote: hey when loser picks from the weekly map pool, can 1v1 loser pick the 2v2 map? Yes
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On September 15 2015 02:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 02:17 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 15 2015 00:30 GeckoXp wrote: Here's a few questions, since I tried writing a good news for bw.de but failed to understand. Probably due to bad English.
1) There's a 3-0 win now? So the 4th set doesn't matter? 2) There are double walk overs? How do they work? Break the rules and get your match reverted and the future slot blockd by w.o.? 3) Where are the results? 4) Why is Artanis still alive, Wallace? On September 14 2015 09:24 Eywa- wrote:On September 14 2015 08:47 Metal[x] wrote:isn't a 3-0 a win? 3-0 is a win, but w/l is very significant, so there is a difference between 3-0, 4-0 and 3-1 Null match To be updated - we need admins to help maintain the thread, btw there was a big problem in the 2v2,since we pick maps from the 5 maps of the week there was only 2 maps for 2v2 .. will be nice to have more maps for the 2v2 also even if everyone no likes fs,we as players the map we practise the most is FS and proly the only where we can show our best skills,we are already playing new maps,if fs is perm available for losser picks will be nice since we cant repeat maps others will be played aswell. 2v2 can pick from entire map pool.
This change will be considered.
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On September 15 2015 03:12 Myujinsan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 02:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
btw there was a big problem in the 2v2,since we pick maps from the 5 maps of the week there was only 2 maps for 2v2 .. will be nice to have more maps for the 2v2
I'm pretty sure i saw somewhere that for the 2v2 u can pick from iccup /maps edit: actually nothing talk about "iccup /maps" but its "any maps" so i guess we could use more clarity (but i'll assume its from the whole event map pool) www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/494017-r-and-s-esports-bettingpro-nation-wars?page=5#88Show nested quote +On September 12 2015 02:58 EBPNationWars wrote: Update: Loser picks from the weekly map pool, not the whole map pool (exception: 2v2 - 2v2 can still pick any map).
So basically the whole list of maps for the event (picked from all the week list) give us this: + Show Spoiler + (2) Match Point (3) Aztec (4) Wind and Cloud (4) Sniper Ridge (2v2) (3) Tau Cross (ace) (2) Neo Overwatch (3) Longinus (4) 815 III (4) Circuit Breaker (2v2) (4) Jade (ace) (2) Bloody Ridge (3) Pathfinder (4) Andromeda (4) Othello (2v2) (4) Latin Quarter (ace) (2) Heartbreak Ridge (3) Outsider (4) Eddy (4) Fighting Spirit (2v2) (2) Destination (ace) (2) Chain Reaction (2) Mist (4) Latin Quarter (4) Icarus (2v2) (4) Gladiator (ace) (2) Blue Storm (3) Aztec (3) Tau Cross (4) Empire Of The Sun (2v2) (4) Fighting Spirit (ace) (2) Cross Game (2) Match Point (3) Longinus (3) Pathfinder (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Eddy (2) Queen's Bridge (2) Destination (3) Outsider (3) Aztec (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Othello (2) Match Point (2) Blue Storm (3) Longinus (3) Aztec (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Othello (2) Match Point (2) Blue Storm (3) Longinus (3) Aztec (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Othello
If you keep only the 4 players map and remove thoses listed mutiple times it give: Show nested quote + (4) Wind and Cloud (4) Sniper Ridge (4) 815 III (4) Circuit Breaker (4) Jade (4) Andromeda (4) Latin Quarter (4) Icarus (4) Gladiator (4) Empire Of The Sun (4) Eddy (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Othello
If an admin of the event can confirm or deny this please ^_^ (yep sorry fearthequeen i'm also editing ^^) Confirm 2v2 can pick any map in the map pool for the event.
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On September 15 2015 03:19 fearthequeen wrote: Suggestion for admins: Update the Format/Rules on page 1 with all of the changes and details we need to know. (Map restriction for round robin, loser pick from only the 5 maps, 2v2 loser pick from whole ESBNW map pool, ect.) Much simpler than captains having to read every page of the thread to understand the rules. I will do my best to update it, look for it on Wednesday evening, I may have time during the day on Wednesday to complete this.
~ Again, we are looking for admins to help edit the thread. Thank you for your patience on the matter.
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On September 14 2015 22:07 LoCcxitO.o wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 20:22 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 14 2015 20:07 trutaCz wrote: I know when i have sent my replays Didnt recieved it. Also what happened with USA vs Peru? I have only zanco vs modesty replays in the mail. LOL wheres TerrOr!
wtf??? why u didnt come ?? more respobsability plz
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On September 15 2015 04:43 ZancCo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 22:07 LoCcxitO.o wrote:On September 14 2015 20:22 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 14 2015 20:07 trutaCz wrote: I know when i have sent my replays Didnt recieved it. Also what happened with USA vs Peru? I have only zanco vs modesty replays in the mail. LOL wheres TerrOr! wtf??? why u didnt come ?? more respobsability plz Well, at least it's only week one. honestly, you guys aren't in a bad place. If the team can get organized by next Sunday, I could easily see you guys finishing at the top of that pool even with the opening loss.
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add to Peru team (T)HanDy (P)Dr4g00n (Z)Cristiger
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sorry guys, seems my people or didn't come or didn't know rules or where to go. I couldn't contact them as my mobile phone internet runned out. I hope we could re-match this one if you wish. Was an unluck that guy's didn't come.
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new leader VAZAGHO i think he's more responsible !!!!ARRIBA PERU!!!
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Guys, since last sunday organisation with lineups was all messy, i suggest lineups to be submited with deadline of 48h before the tournament starts. With 1 set penalty for submiting lineups in less than 48h(2 days). Substitutions can be made in no less than 24h before NW and if you want to sub later than saturday 17CET other team must give their agreement. I think that will make tournament run smoother, teams more responsible and give time for players to prepare and lead to better games overall. Teamleaders let me know what u think.
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don't like the sound of that. A lot of players answer me "perhaps" if i ask if they will come. So making a definitive lineup is very hard, but enough players always show up eventually. This way would be more trouble for us.
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On September 15 2015 21:44 Cele wrote: don't like the sound of that. A lot of players answer me "perhaps" if i ask if they will come. So making a definitive lineup is very hard, but enough players always show up eventually. This way would be more trouble for us. yep it looks like a bad idea to me too
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On September 15 2015 21:41 _Animus_ wrote: Guys, since last sunday organisation with lineups was all messy, i suggest lineups to be submited with deadline of 48h before the tournament starts. With 1 set penalty for submiting lineups in less than 48h(2 days). Substitutions can be made in no less than 24h before NW and if you want to sub later than saturday 17CET other team must give their agreement. I think that will make tournament run smoother, teams more responsible and give time for players to prepare and lead to better games overall. Teamleaders let me know what u think. im not ok with it,the actual system is fine, for example in the nw of EF vs PL we never got the draw from you,we did it manual our selves and everything was ok i guess,one thing we make sure was to use the same line we sent to you,but give u the line 48 hours before is to much,this is not the proleague,most of my players know if they can play 30 mins before the nw.
im not blaming you or anything,i know doing it manually for all the teams is a pain in the leg. i was thinking that if somehow we uses iccup cw system draw will be easier ? idk,just one idea.
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On September 15 2015 21:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:41 _Animus_ wrote: Guys, since last sunday organisation with lineups was all messy, i suggest lineups to be submited with deadline of 48h before the tournament starts. With 1 set penalty for submiting lineups in less than 48h(2 days). Substitutions can be made in no less than 24h before NW and if you want to sub later than saturday 17CET other team must give their agreement. I think that will make tournament run smoother, teams more responsible and give time for players to prepare and lead to better games overall. Teamleaders let me know what u think. im not ok with it,the actual system is fine, for example in the nw of EF vs PL we never got the draw from you,we did it manual our selves and everything was ok i guess,one thing we make sure was to use the same line we sent to you,but give u the line 48 hours before is to much,this is not the proleague,most of my players know if they can play 30 mins before the nw. im not blaming you or anything,i know doing it manually for all the teams is a pain in the leg. i was thinking that if somehow we uses iccup cw system draw will be easier ? idk,just one idea. Iccup cw system will probably work. People just need to remember not to submit their results there, instead submit to nation wars email.
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Same as eon and others, and actually i thought the same sunday because it have many pros.
- i knew my line-up 5 minute before event, like half of the teams here.
- we asked for ace match if the pick was like korean (at last second) for the same reason
- u cant decently ask all line up at 17:00 and get all player ingame at 17:01 (no offense, just logic, love xoxo)
- almost every team (or atleast leader) here have been using the iCC cw format since years and is familiar with it
- even if replay and score is submitted here its not a bad thing, u wont get more spoil than been on op epbn and all the replay will be available in no time for caster/admins/clan lead and easier way to deal with it
- and last but not least, that would give a purpose to all thoses new tags ^_^
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