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On September 01 2015 18:40 KelsierSC wrote:
the mason claim a the end was pretty weird, i assumed they were masoned from pretty early D1 but palmar stating they weren't and trefl then claiming right at the end they were. I don't really know what to make of that
I don't like moosy I think his inconsistent game could actually be scum rather than inconsistent town.
I agree that moosy has fallen off a lot. The mason inconsistency can be easily explained by Palmar being his usual self i.e. a dick.
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On September 01 2015 12:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
and not to mention that mafia had 2kp on n1, which is something not usually had in normal 13 player setups
Wasn't this a 14 player setup?
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On September 01 2015 17:54 justanothertownie wrote:
If we are assuming that KSC will flip scum which I don't really know why we are doing it but ok - I guess it's not unlikely:
The masons need to survive 2 (!) nights until LYLO. That is awesome. If they manage to lynch 2 mafia before that they even become CONFIRMED. The absolute WORST play we could do right now is lynch into them unless we have really strong reason to disbelieve them which I do not see at all. We will NOT lynch Palmar or Trfel before LYLO. If they are real it is their duty to lynch scum or get shot before that.
Such wisdom
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I think the mafia team (and 1 is probably wrong)
is:
Vivax
KSC
VE
This is based on multiple things and I don't think I'm going to write too much about it.
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On September 01 2015 18:53 Palmar wrote:
I think the mafia team (and 1 is probably wrong)
is:
Vivax
KSC
VE
This is based on multiple things and I don't think I'm going to write too much about it.
Yes, you will. You said you would give solving this game a try and now you will follow through with this. If you and Trfel are town then we still have a good shot at this if you try.
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On September 01 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 12:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
and not to mention that mafia had 2kp on n1, which is something not usually had in normal 13 player setups Wasn't this a 14 player setup?
CC was confused.
This is basically a 13 player setup because the additional townie is balanced by the additional nightkill night1.
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On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.
I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day
There is a logical error here by Vivax.
The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.
So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.
Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.
I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:
1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.
I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:
a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY
This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.
I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.
I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.
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On September 01 2015 18:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 18:53 Palmar wrote:
I think the mafia team (and 1 is probably wrong)
is:
Vivax
KSC
VE
This is based on multiple things and I don't think I'm going to write too much about it. Yes, you will. You said you would give solving this game a try and now you will follow through with this. If you and Trfel are town then we still have a good shot at this if you try.
yeah but I'm going to focus on the things I believe in.
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On September 01 2015 18:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:On September 01 2015 12:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
and not to mention that mafia had 2kp on n1, which is something not usually had in normal 13 player setups Wasn't this a 14 player setup? CC was confused. This is basically a 13 player setup because the additional townie is balanced by the additional nightkill night1.
yes, which means the 2kp is fairly normal and has no bearing to blue roles.
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On September 01 2015 18:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 18:40 KelsierSC wrote:
the mason claim a the end was pretty weird, i assumed they were masoned from pretty early D1 but palmar stating they weren't and trefl then claiming right at the end they were. I don't really know what to make of that
I don't like moosy I think his inconsistent game could actually be scum rather than inconsistent town. I agree that moosy has fallen off a lot. The mason inconsistency can be easily explained by Palmar being his usual self i.e. a dick.
well I agree that the D1/D2 play of palmar makes no sense if they weren't masoned. hmm I was town reading palmar and trefl by association so I don't want to lynch either of them today.
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can someone confirm/deny they understand what I'm saying about vivax?
It's incompatible that he believes the mason claimed could have been resolved (without flipping) and that he has doubts that it is true.
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Vote Count
KelsierSC (3): Mr. Cheescake, MoosyDoosy, Vivax
Vivax (1): Palmar
Not Voting (5): Deconduo, Trfel, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, VisceraEyes
Currently, KelsierSC is set to be lynched. Day ends at Wednesday, Sep 02 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
Voting is mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)
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On September 01 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
can someone confirm/deny they understand what I'm saying about vivax?
It's incompatible that he believes the mason claimed could have been resolved (without flipping) and that he has doubts that it is true.
I took his post as "we could have lynched you and resolved the masons thing this way".
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But I don't know why he is so pissed about it if he is town. If Kelsier and the "masons" are mafia then mafia lost the game already unless town derps in LYLO.
If the masons are town then it is way better to not have lynched them. Either way we made the correct play by not lynching Palmar and removing an inactive question mark in hopeless instead.
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Also I don't think CC is mafia
I don't know why and I may be wrong.
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I am going to roll with the masons and the greencheck today. This means the lynchpool is 4 people with up to 3 mafia in there:
Vivax
Kelsier
CC
VE
It should be possible to hit here and if we don't then the masons need to be looked at again. I think I also do not prefer lynching CC today. Vivax depending on what's up with the claim and his fight with Palmar/how today plays out.
VE and KSC are poe and while VE has fallen off hard he is still townier than KSC so I am happy with this lynch.
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Today Palmar and Trfel need to find the mafia in there and I will sheep. They have at least a 50:50 chance of hitting randomly in the group of 4 (that's if deconduo was framed/is gf - if he is town then it is 75 %). If they do not manage to do this we have a problem and they suck.
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Goddamn it, I forgot Moosy. The odds are a little worse than I thought but the procedure is the same. The masons will be not be touched as long as they lynch mafia.
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EPT
