On September 01 2015 12:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Man, call me tunneled but I just can't help but feel chills over Mr. CC.

Cheesycakes. What do you think of Trfel/Palmar vs Vivax situation. Which claim do you believe in right now.

Is there any world where there is a 1-shot cop, mason pair, and tracker or w.e. vivax is?

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:20 GMT

#2842

I can actually see BH giving out a nerfed cop, veteran / tracker, and a mason pair. the 1 shot cop / vet / tracker aren't powerful roles. As long as vivax ain't a jk or some shit

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 01 2015 03:20 GMT

#2843

On September 01 2015 12:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

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Is there any world where there is a 1-shot cop, mason pair, and tracker or w.e. vivax is?

That doesn't exactly answer my question.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 01 2015 03:21 GMT

#2844

On September 01 2015 12:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I can actually see BH giving out a nerfed cop, veteran / tracker, and a mason pair. the 1 shot cop / vet / tracker aren't powerful roles. As long as vivax ain't a jk or some shit

This would yes, be something BlazingHand would willingly do.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:21 GMT

#2845

and not to mention that mafia had 2kp on n1, which is something not usually had in normal 13 player setups

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:23 GMT

#2846

Fuck it, the simplest answer is to believe all the claims. Vivax was basically hard claiming being blue last night. the Mason claim is incredibly stupid if palmar and trfel are mafia, and it was largely softed on day 1.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:25 GMT

#2847

Yeah, a town needs to have a decent blue team to compensate for the double KP on N1. That makes sense.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:29 GMT

#2848

I'm at the point where KSC is mafia for reasons stated prior. VE is mafia for giving no shits about the lynches because they were all on town and he hasn't done anything useful this game, just sat in the background sipping his coffee and stroking his beard while casually throwing his weight around my mislynch and calling me an enigma when his super scumread the previous night was Palmar. Then it's either JAT or moosy and it's gg

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:29 GMT

#2849

oh and reevaluate decondou in final 3 if just goons pop up

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 01 2015 03:30 GMT

#2850

On September 01 2015 12:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm at the point where KSC is mafia for reasons stated prior. VE is mafia for giving no shits about the lynches because they were all on town and he hasn't done anything useful this game, just sat in the background sipping his coffee and stroking his beard while casually throwing his weight around my mislynch and calling me an enigma when his super scumread the previous night was Palmar. Then it's either JAT or moosy and it's gg

The game shouldn't be as easy as this.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:30 GMT

#2851

On September 01 2015 12:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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The game shouldn't be as easy as this.

I'd like it to be.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:32 GMT

#2852

The only problem is that a 1-shot cop + another minor role is too UP versus 3 scum + 2kp n1

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:34 GMT

#2853

I just realized there are 14 players LOL

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 01 2015 03:44 GMT

#2854

What does Trfel gain by fakeclaiming mason there as mafia? He's absolutely linking himself together with palmar which is disastrous in the case that the other bluerole is a vigilante or one of them gets lynched. Like, it's incredibly all-in when town still has one mislynch left after hopeless dies.

What does Vivax gain by fakeclaiming here? Maybe we mislynch one of the masons. And I think he just claims tracker or something as mafia instead of hiding it purposely. His purpose has to be lynching one of the masons.. right? It can't be a long-term plan because he needs a reason for being alive if mafia don't shoot him.

Trfel

7015 Posts

September 01 2015 04:00 GMT

#2855

Mr. Cheesecake, I'm not sure if I'm sold on your VisceraEyes read. Ever since he returned from his break (and he's played over five games since then), his play as town can be interpreted as disinterested (mostly due to lack of activity, not that this is necessarily a correct interpretation). His play in this game feels slightly more active than his town play. Unfortunately, he hasn't played as mafia since his return, and he was known as an extremely capable mafia player.

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

September 01 2015 08:47 GMT

#2856

On September 01 2015 08:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou is probably town. Marv would have had to check exactly the GF. It's far more likely that he's just inactive town (see: All the other town we lynched)

You are forgetting a possible framer which makes it way more likely since we now know that deconduo would probably be the most inactive member of the team if he was mafia which means he was the best frame target.

On September 01 2015 08:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If Palmar was right on JAT, the only reason he's right is because he had extra information in that he knew JAT's early push was on a townie.

What kind of extra information is that? That townies do not push townies? lol

On September 01 2015 08:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
A world of VE, Vivax, and JAT honestly would not surprise me. That would mean all the mafia were pushing my lynch.

And who else did push your lynch all game? Marv.

On September 01 2015 09:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Mafia are never going to put KP on you vivax. so if you're veteran or PGO idc plz claim. You're just going to get roleblocked anyway.

We do not know if they have a rb and if we are lynching KSC anyways then there is no need to claim whatever he is if he is town.

On September 01 2015 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
though I expect JAT would have wanted to vote me instead of hopeless

Why? I was clearly having doubts about you being mafia or else I would not have pushed Palmar, don't you think?

On September 01 2015 12:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

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Is there any world where there is a 1-shot cop, mason pair, and tracker or w.e. vivax is?

Yes, there is. Marv was one-shot, maybe Vivax is too, Gaiden 1 was littered with blue roles because of that.

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

September 01 2015 08:50 GMT

#2857

On September 01 2015 08:51 Vivax wrote:
The reason the mason claim is even LESS believable is that I'm blue myself. I'm not going to say what I am specifically until the next night is over as well. For now they clearly preferred getting rid of marv even though I hinted that I was blue during the night.

##Vote: KSC

I'll pay more attention to the game again after this guy is dead.

Why did you hint at being blue at all during the night? If you are shot we know. If you aren't you can claim today. What's the point besides letting mafia in on it?

On September 01 2015 09:48 Vivax wrote:
And THE most ridiculous thing is that the lynch happened without any fucking logic whatsoever, people were literally going WTF on Palmar's post as his reason to vote hopeless AND then he became the majority wagon for some reason. That's masssive bogus stinking bullcrap and now that I think of that it makes Mr. CC and JAT look like mafia.

They were both all over Palmar for his hopeless vote but then voted the same guy regardless. CC at least can argue he had to save himself but for JAT I see no other justification.

The mason claim makes Palmar extremely likely town in that situation so whatever bogus he said is completely irrelevant.

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

September 01 2015 08:54 GMT

#2858

If we are assuming that KSC will flip scum which I don't really know why we are doing it but ok - I guess it's not unlikely:

The masons need to survive 2 (!) nights until LYLO. That is awesome. If they manage to lynch 2 mafia before that they even become CONFIRMED. The absolute WORST play we could do right now is lynch into them unless we have really strong reason to disbelieve them which I do not see at all. We will NOT lynch Palmar or Trfel before LYLO. If they are real it is their duty to lynch scum or get shot before that.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

September 01 2015 09:40 GMT

#2859

the mason claim a the end was pretty weird, i assumed they were masoned from pretty early D1 but palmar stating they weren't and trefl then claiming right at the end they were. I don't really know what to make of that

I don't like moosy I think his inconsistent game could actually be scum rather than inconsistent town.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

September 01 2015 09:46 GMT

#2860

On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.

This post makes no sense.