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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
Did rsoul sign up for this if she did I shoot her if not dunno... | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On August 05 2015 05:19 Tictock wrote: Looks like nobody is around, and I got work and stuff. So I'll leave a few thoughts to help get things moving. Town's biggest source of info (besides flips obv) is the cannonball count, thus it seems an open and honest atmosphere where we can freely discuss what night actions we took will best aid town. Pros and Cons to this? It also seems to me that since everyone has 3 defends available it will be difficult to push & flip scumreads. However, pushing scum will still force them to defend and not be able to shoot. Thus I think it best that town proceed in an organized and typical fashion to push and flesh out scum slowly, as opposed to us each acting on our own as vigilantes. Discuss. I'm currently Loading my Cannon I gotz me a gun and you want me to not use it?! | ||
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plotspot
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plotspot
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:00 plotspot wrote: wow since when did the rules change to 3 loads and 3 defends? I thought it was 5 loads and 5 defends before. Less players. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:15 plotspot wrote: like this should be very easy for town, we all agree to load and everyone has 2 shots for tomorrow. Makes the game very interesting, and ok maybe mafia doesn't agree and shoots, who the fuck cares 2 townies dead but we know who is mafia for sure, because they didn't load but shot instead. The night post will only say the total number of bullets so won't know who shot unless they tell us. | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
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Damdred
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
On August 05 2015 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: There are a total of 8 cannonballs remaining in the game. This is what the day post is going to look like. Notice how it says nothing how many shots each player has, just the total amount. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 05 2015 10:19 Damdred wrote: Well actually we kinda can tell if everyone says load whoever doesn't have two shots tommorow is scum ya? How does that work? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
What's stopping mafia from loading as well, exactly? What incentive is there for mafia to not load if everyone else is loading? And how exactly would we prove that mafia fired? | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On August 05 2015 10:19 Damdred wrote: Well actually we kinda can tell if everyone says load whoever doesn't have two shots tommorow is scum ya? yeah that was the plan, but Sulfurus is right, I wasn't paying attention to the sample post Sentinel made. Though still if we agree that everyone loads, and every townie does, it leaves mafia back to shoot especially if you see 2 townies dying.Though still we are left with 4 townies who have 8 shots and 2 mafia who has no shot, this is advantageous to town, no? More likely we bring mafia to the game too by having them load, but then we have 6 townies with 12 shots and 2 mafia with 4 shots, I still think in such a game it favours the mass. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
But consider this, if we don't misshoot, mafia needs at least 5 turns to win: shoot, load, shoot, load, shoot. Successfully defending one or two shots can drag this out to 6 turns for mafia to win, while we'd only need to hit two of them somewhere in between, killing one of them basically doubles the remaining time for them to win, if we don't misshoot. I'm stressing this "don't misshoot" because we don't have lynch mechanism to balance it out, so we have to be extra careful when shooting someone. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
#1 priority for town should still be to hunt for scum. #2 is figuring out how best to use mechanics to our advantage. If town is able to identify scum then the possibility of being shot will prevent scum from shooting as they will be forced to defend. This will effectively prevent mafia from having KP and will buy town time to continue discussing things. There are only 2 real situations in which I see this game being a cluster for town. -If everyone acts alone and shoots whomever they feel like we could very well end up with half the game dead -Everyone decides to shoot the same person and town wastes most if not all our cannonballs The first situation is the one I am most afraid of, and is why I feel town needs to be organized this game. As for why I included the statement about loading my cannon. Simply a choice I made about how I want to approach this game, not at all something I recommend for anyone else to do. Obviously it is best to keep your action a secret until after the phase is over, however we should all freely discuss our actions after the fact to help us determine if there are any inconsistencies with the ball count (indicating mafia tried to pull something). | ||
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Damdred
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
How does everyone feel about just defending tonight? Prevents anyone from being killed so town gets more time to try and look for scum. Mafia would probably load up which isn't great but they can still only shoot once per night so it's not that bad either. Thoughts? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
I was going to rant on how game stagnation is a thing but one night of defending/loading probably won't kill us. | ||
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