Night 8

Both players shot each other. Tie game.

Thank you to Damdred, Onegu, Ticktock, Sulfurus, ShoCkeyy, Fecalfeast, ObiWanShinobi and plotspot for playing and Alakaslam for cohosting!

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

August 08 2015 22:19 GMT

#242

Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/MzmutCGeZer
Obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/uM2VCRPRB2xK

Tictock

United States6051 Posts

August 08 2015 22:27 GMT

#243

Well GG.

Got that load in, wasnt sure the best way to run that endgame.

Went with

Load
Defend
Shoot
Defend
Shoot

GG i shoulda shot plots before 1v1 when I was sure Damdred was Town. Didn't have time to think things through then so defaulted.

Interesting game, might have more thouhgts later.

Damdred

15669 Posts

August 08 2015 22:34 GMT

#244

N1 I loaded and n2 I struggled between shooting plot and ff I chose ff for idk why. And I'm curious why sulf suddenly thought I was scum for thinking he made a good post.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

August 08 2015 22:39 GMT

#245

i shot onegu

plotspot

800 Posts

August 08 2015 22:42 GMT

#246

yeah GG, draw is kinda fitting for this game I feel.

No Damdred, the posts from Sulf is too close, he was talking about something before, that makes you in his opinion scum.

Your load on N7 kinda surprised me TT, I was supposed to be out of defends after I defended on N6, so I was sure you were gonna shoot to possibly win or pull a draw.

plotspot

800 Posts

August 08 2015 23:05 GMT

#247

I kinda took part in this game to understand where pressure and the root of scumhunting comes from. And it appears as n00bking said, there is no pressure to be vocal.
Which then as it appears, voting is really the key mechanism to get people talking. And if you don't talk then you're either scum or at best disposable town.
But I don't know, maybe Sentinel can tell us whether such a game could have unfolded in a different way?
I always had the feeling people really wanted to participate and talk, but then felt "ah no, I just talk a bit less, it's fine" and this kinda spirals down and ends up making everybody mirror each other.

Damdred

15669 Posts

August 08 2015 23:11 GMT

#248

I'd actually sort of like this format of it was a vote in a mini day phase who could have the ability to use there canon and they couldn't be elected on consecutive day.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

August 08 2015 23:28 GMT

#249

If there's ever a Cannons III, I'll probably add in a vote mechanic. I feel like at the least it would discourage people to lurk and there would be some more information to draw from (I tried to keep shooting mechanics hidden but then there wasn't much information to go off of in general)

Regarding the mechanic itself... I like your idea Damdy, and maybe have it the opposite instead as an alternative. So each day you vote for someone to have their cannon temporarily or permanently taken away from them. Permanent would still allow them to influence the game but mafia would have less KP under their control, giving town a bigger advantage. And of course more people will be talking so they can try to figure out who the scum is.

Damdred

15669 Posts

August 08 2015 23:29 GMT

#250

I like that idea would be a really good mechanic.

Sulfurus

United States166 Posts

August 08 2015 23:30 GMT

#251

I thought Damdred was the last mafia because Obi said he was a good shot but didn't shoot him and FecalFeast said Damdred was scum. The post at the end was supposed to be my legacy in case I died and Damdred lived.

The frustrating thing is I think we would've won if I just immediately claimed the shot on Obi.

Onegu

United States9695 Posts

August 09 2015 00:22 GMT

#252

I shot Sho. I forgot to send in a shot d1 or I would have rng'd a shot. Sorry I have been busy.

Half the Sky

Germany9029 Posts

August 09 2015 01:05 GMT

#253

Interesting finish. Yeh I knew it was plotspot once down to the final two.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

August 09 2015 01:14 GMT

#254

I'll take a draw.
Works for me.

Ty for carry plot.

Tictock

United States6051 Posts

August 09 2015 16:27 GMT

#255

On August 09 2015 08:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there's ever a Cannons III, I'll probably add in a vote mechanic. I feel like at the least it would discourage people to lurk and there would be some more information to draw from (I tried to keep shooting mechanics hidden but then there wasn't much information to go off of in general)

Regarding the mechanic itself... I like your idea Damdy, and maybe have it the opposite instead as an alternative. So each day you vote for someone to have their cannon temporarily or permanently taken away from them. Permanent would still allow them to influence the game but mafia would have less KP under their control, giving town a bigger advantage. And of course more people will be talking so they can try to figure out who the scum is.

Yea this would be a nice idea to try. I'd hoped I could get people talking a bit more but like n00b pointed out in obs in this format there is just so little incentive for town to cooperate and communicate.

On August 09 2015 07:42 plotspot wrote:
Your load on N7 kinda surprised me TT, I was supposed to be out of defends after I defended on N6, so I was sure you were gonna shoot to possibly win or pull a draw.

Similarly I didn't expect you to load N8, I thought for sure you would either try to shoot me for the draw or defend against one of my 2 shots

You made a good call about my bluff to shoot you earlier in the game, I was kinda suspect of you because of the sudden shift in your thinking D1 (really bad plan, to really good thinking about what mafia needed to do) but wasn't quite trusting my own read. I tried to point it out in case anyone else might pick up on it, but yea with most of town not really wanting to talk it was easy for you to look pretty towny just by discussing stuff.

Just wondering, was anyone scum reading me this game? It seems like plots was the only one to try and shoot me...