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This is ridiculous seeing everyone smashing misterzzz and now G5, please people don't jump to conclusions so fast. TL hasn't had chance to defend themselves yet.
Now I think TL should reveal how they "knew" misterzzz used drop bug (and what drop bug actually is). The reason they didn't before is because then people could circumvent it, but this is absurd because just knowing they you know how to detect it is reason enough not to use it, and they will just use alternative method to disconnect (aka pulling the plug), which is impossible to detect as intentional or not.
In my experience on battle.net, I have found that hackers are the ones who throw out the most hack accusations (probably because they think everyone is like them and thus hacking). This sort of fits with accusations against misterzzz. Originally one of the accusers was ToT)hullah, but it was later found from a replay that in one of his games he had used warden watch (program to prevent loss after win when using other hacks). And now it is found that G5 accuses misterzzz and also has a complaint against himself that it is him drop hacking. Now I am not saying G5 and Hullah are hackers, but I do feel that there is stronger evidence against them than misterzzz.
I'm not misterzzz fan, I don't even know him, but from what I hear he is a total asshole bad manner, and from what I've seen that is true, but the only place I have seem him talk was in threads defending himself against hack accusations. I would be a little annoyed if I had to defend myself against a shit load of people all jumping on the band wagon too. Besides iloveoov used to be and asshole, but MSL and OSL didn't ban him from participating and it's a good thing too.
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well, being BM shouldnt have anything to do with this issue becouse a lot of top players in TSL arent good mannnered either.. after losing a game everyone is mad for a while i fully undrestand this
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anyone noticed the polish fanboys "using other countries"?
haha
dunno why but it cracked me up...
I was ready to ask that "italian" guy something in italian but google translatetions would save him hehehe... and the UK guy that said: "I heard from polish friends that you are baning them" hahaha
Wheres Rekrul? Just ban them all.
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Belgium8305 Posts
hey drama queens could you give it a rest while TL sorts this shit out
jeez mention the word "hacker" once or twice and the thread immediately looks like freaking gosugamers
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who was TSL-Xian, sadly i played him before he was banned from this event and lost:'(
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whats bad about having a small talk where everyone can make some statment and express their opinion? thats forum about starcraft and cheating is unfortunatly a 'part' of it
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Polish people should really learn how to post proper constructive arguments instead of flaming and bashing TL, TSL, US or whatever other country they don't like. It's not benefiting you or anyone you try defend here. It took 6 lines for Waren to make more decent argument than all of polish spammers in every forum combined. Keep it cool and keep it civilized.
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I HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT THINGS
THEY MAKE ME VERY ANGRY!!@!$!
OMFG DUDE WTF
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Braavos36362 Posts
On April 05 2008 02:48 Kennigit wrote:
We are currently investigating the G5/Mistrzzz situation. Please bear with us.
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is awesome32269 Posts
On April 05 2008 03:41 Jusciax wrote:
Polish people should really learn how to post proper constructive arguments instead of flaming and bashing TL, TSL, US or whatever other country they don't like. It's not benefiting you or anyone you try defend here. It took 6 lines for Waren to make more decent argument than all of polish spammers in every forum combined. Keep it cool and keep it civilized.
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Lets focus on what really matters here! FUCKING LEGIONAIRE MIGHT BE BACK and DAY rules for putting up some of his hard earned cash. \m/ go tl.net you guys are pwnin it up!
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hi i was banned for no reason .. someone told me on battle net and i see im banned and why.. for a "loss" in the profile .. i think is really stupid im not banned from anysite cause the final decision of my case was "u can get a loss in the game for other reason" and who answer that? NuNo send a email to blizzard and the people of blizzard answer that and the admins of wgt and qcup decide to don't ban me cause the proof is a little stupid ... soo why u here ban me.. i was never caught hacking or using oblivion like haypro or the others .. i think is a little stupid my ban i was really happy playing this league and now im really sad cause i can't play i hope tl.net can reconsidered my case .. i really want to play this league .. thanks for read my comment and sorry for my english
atte: Xian or LRM)pALLo
gl
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On April 05 2008 00:09 flag wrote:
So here you give these hackers a second chance, and they spend days trying to climb up the ladder to prove themselves, and you say "HA just kidding fuck you hackers, once a hacker always a hacker. Not only will we ban you and make all the time you spent hack free wasted, we will remind everyone that you are hackers."
I have to say I agree with flag on that point. It's one thing to ban hackers from the beginning. Heck, you can ban anyone you like, you don't even need a reason. But it's not fair to say, "ex-hackers can play" and then ban them 4 days later for being ex-hackers. It's stealing their time, at the very least, and it makes a lie of your previous words. If you say something, you should stick to it. My 2 cents, but I appreciate the work that the admins put into running something like this, and that they're trying to do the right thing.
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Who are Skew and Squall? They are not in the top rankers... In fact, I can't find them anywhere in the TSL ladder.
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On April 05 2008 03:25 mcmascote wrote:
anyone noticed the polish fanboys "using other countries"?
Wheres Rekrul? Just ban them all.
yeah! and just dont forget to ask him what is my src ip adress... ;/
Pathetic.
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It's so sad that when "Polish fanboys" come with legitimate concerns like the fact that there's no proof for Mistrzz hacking, or if there is, the admins refuse to release it, and are just dismissed as "rofl i'm on the bandwagon rofl polish fanboys rofl." Add that to the rampant dislike and biased treatment of Mistrzz in the past on TL.net and I can't say I trust the decision whatsoever without any sort of empirical proof. I hate Mistrzz antics and rudeness as much as the next guy, but like someone before said, you really do feel kind of sorry for the guy until he opens his dumb fat mouth. Of course, I see the difficult situation in revealing how you know he's hacking. It's all just one big sticky situation. I see both sides of it.
On April 04 2008 22:20 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2008 22:17 TreK[cF] wrote:On April 04 2008 21:45 Walen wrote:
1- MistrZZZ was the only one with replay, g5 could pull out his internet to save the replay, but he wanted to make mistrzzzz look guilty.
2- Since gametime and gamelenght and not the same one of the players dischacked.
3- G5 has dischacked vs dimaga link here:http://sc.iccup.com/iccthread/23394
4- Please next time you want to crucify a player ask me before to check it, i don't want more players banned for nothing, this goes for all TSL-Admin and a part of the comunnity. if g5 was the drophacker i find this pretty funny :D i find the "ask me for permission next time u ban people, bitches" quote even funnier
Maybe because he's a super admin at ICCUP? And he just wanted some notice of it, he didn't demand anything; he knows what he's doing in checking for hacks and he is requesting that he be allowed to do so himself as well before players are banned
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
As has been repeated over and over, the situation is being investigated.
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up but ICCup isn't legal right? Will ESPN still be interested?
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On April 04 2008 11:48 useLess wrote:1-28 with 1 point. Now lets see how far up I can go 
go high!!!
gl & HF
..Reminds me of my first PGT experiences !
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