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KorvspaD
Sweden468 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3423 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
I'd suggest you play a game of Mafia if this kind of logical thinking doesn't suit you yet, it helps to improve. Trust me. Even though I stopped playing SC again (screw Testie and DotA <3) TL staff deserves mad props for this. And of course: gogo Ace[F2F]! | ||
JackDanniels
Poland10 Posts
-Apr 01 : G5 use drophack vs DIMAGA -Apr 02 : G5 lose 1st game vs Mistrzzz - G5 use drophack (?) in 2 game vs Mistrzzz (4 min game) and told that Mistrzzz is a drophacker I think this is don't true that mistrzzz drophack because he dont have any reason to do that. G5 lose 1st game vs Mistrzzz and mayby he try to vengeance on mistrzzz... Mistrzzz can win without hacks... | ||
Cosmic_Milk
United Kingdom5 Posts
It looks like somebody wants to set up ranking... It is really offence to say sth like that: "You ruin StarCraft" and give no evidence. Hopeless. | ||
True_Spike
Poland3423 Posts
On April 05 2008 02:07 Naib wrote: Just as Trek says. They obviously can't come out with the exact way to proove that he was in fact drop-hacking, because then the hack-developers would come up with a "solution" to that pretty fast, and be one step ahead (as most hacks / hijacks / whatsoever mostly are) again. Just think logical, Polish fanboys...why would the admins lie about having the exact method and proof if they put so much dedication to the event? Do you think they lie about that too? Then you're beyond salvation, look at what they've done so far. I'd suggest you play a game of Mafia if this kind of logical thinking doesn't suit you yet, it helps to improve. Trust me. Even though I stopped playing SC again (screw Testie and DotA <3) TL staff deserves mad props for this. And of course: gogo Ace[F2F]! He didn't use a hack, it's a bug. You don't need anything running to perform it. And Walen just proved that it was in fact G5 who used this bug, not Mistrz. | ||
Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On April 05 2008 02:10 True_Spike wrote: He didn't use a hack, it's a bug. You don't need anything running to perform it. And Walen just proved that it was in fact G5 who used this bug, not Mistrz. So if you come up with a way to know who used it, you'd reveal it to the public so the abuser can circumvent it? I don't think so. But feel free to argue, fire away. | ||
True_Spike
Poland3423 Posts
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Loophole
United States867 Posts
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SalvGG
Canada67 Posts
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k0ziol
Poland75 Posts
Walen said it all, gl hf in your tourney | ||
Cosmic_Milk
United Kingdom5 Posts
On April 05 2008 01:44 Walen wrote: well irrefutable proof of mistrzzz not hacking 7290 azureMIStrZZZ Hotkey Assign,2 7294 TSL-G5 Leave Game player dropped 7294 azureMIStrZZZ Hotkey Assign,2 you have to press alt+f6 to drophack, you have to press crtl+number to assign, so crtl+alt+f6 doesn't work to drophack, so g5 was the one dischacking. OMFG TSL starts to stink ! Walen full respect | ||
Kennigit
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Canada19447 Posts
<font size="3">We are currently investigating the G5/Mistrzzz situation. Please bear with us.</font> | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On April 04 2008 11:23 EvilTeletubby wrote: ![]() ![]() ![]() Only you sir have the balls to do what every previous tournament organizer wouldn't. Thank god for TL.net, thank god for Manifesto7. Couldn't agree more. Mani does an awesome job | ||
iLjh
United States160 Posts
On April 05 2008 00:09 flag wrote: When I first heard about TSL I thought this is awesome because it will show us who the real top players outside of Korea are. There has never been a huge event like this with huge cash prizes that every one can enter before, which should motivate all players enough to really sort out really how good people are. With the banning of all Chinese and now these 5 hackers/bad manners I don't feel it will answer the question of who are the top players definitively. This does not mean it was a bad decision, there is no perfect answer and the staff had to make choices to give as good as show as possible. But the banning of these hackers/bad manners disturbs me for a couple of reasons. As for the 4 hackers, I guess it is widely acknowledged that they hacked within a year from now (how this is decided is a whole other issue), but at the start of TSL it said they would be allowed to play. Imagine how a past hacker might have felt about TSL: "I made a mistake earlier by hacking in XX event, it has really tarnished my name, but now I can participate in the TSL where they have strong anti hack measures, I can finally show that I am really a top player even without hack." Now probably not all of the banned hackers think like this, maybe some still think they can beat the system, but I seriously doubt that they will with ICCUP launcher and FPVODS should just be required of people in question. So here you give these hackers a second chance, and they spend days trying to climb up the ladder to prove themselves, and you say "HA just kidding fuck you hackers, once a hacker always a hacker. Not only will we ban you and make all the time you spent hack free wasted, we will remind everyone that you are hackers." As for misterzzz, this is how it looks: "we don't like this guy, and just take our word for it, he used drop hack." Well I would take your word for it if you were impartial but you aren't, the fact that you spent hours analyzing a replay from a game that was even after 4 minutes for drop hack proves that you have an agenda. I'm not saying misterzzz didn't drop hack, and I'm not asking you to disclose your method, but I would like link to download the replay so we can at least attempt to make our own conclusions. I really do find it unlikely that if someone really did want to disconnect after 4 minutes that they would risk using a hack on iccup, why not just pull the ethernet cable? That being said this is your starleague and you don't have to listen to me, this is just me, one spectator's impression. I like you want this to be an awesome league so I share my concerns, good luck with the rest of the season. Couldnt have said it better myself. Dont take me wrong... I love TSL and everything it stands for, for the foreign scene we are now one step closer to that "professionalism" that koreans bathe in each and every day. But with an event of this calibur and this "professional", it's therefore your duty (staff) to inform the community (us) with details. Not providing the community with evidence and just saying "We have strong proof" completely disregards the amount of professionalism you staff have worked so hard to build. And now that there's even proof saying that the one hacking wasn't Mistrzzzz but G5... to be frank, I'm quite disappointed. | ||
kirbyman1
United States29 Posts
LEGEND TOSS FULL RESPECT TO U, I AM UR LOYAL FAN AND NEVER DOUBTED UR GREATNESS! bows to lord walen and mistrzzz spits on G5 G5, you are the lowest of the lowest of the lowest of the low, no words to describe how evil your act was, you are a disgrace, and framing mistrzzz like that was inexcusable. walen, you are a hero. GJ man, good guys win this one. G5 loses. Big time. | ||
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USA29055 Posts
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
I don't know about you, but I'm preparing for armageddon. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On April 05 2008 02:57 ManBearPig wrote: OMFG incontrol just made a valuable post. I don't know about you, but I'm preparing for armageddon. haha, this is the second time ive seen someone say this today | ||
TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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