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United States33025 Posts
Sources:
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=76202&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=76203&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
Zerglee and Zergman are the next pros to join the recent wave of retirement. Military service is always a looming problem for old gamers, as are long term career decisions.
However, in this case, it appears that Samsung's new management is part of the problem as well. There have been some changes at the upper levels of the team, it seems, and troubles occurred during contract negotiation. Or at least, the lack of such.
Zerglee was offered a significantly lower pay, but according to him, it's not the money that bothers him so much. It was that it was offered to him as a take-it-or-leave-it type of deal, with no negotiation possible. It was unacceptable to him, as one of the senior members of the team (seniority is still very important in Korean society), and considering his performance in the first half of the 2007 pro-league.
Zergman also described Samsung's attitude towards their players over contracts as less than satisfactory. The two players felt disrespected by the team they had served so loyally over the years, and combined with the other difficulties they face, it lead to their decisions to retire.
Though we can hardly be expected to believe Zerglee when he says it's not about money at all, it's unfortunate that they were treated so poorly. Many fans are cynical about the attitude of pro-teams towards e-sports in general, as they continuously show the attitude of those trying to exploit a short-lived fad, rather than trying to help create the foundations for a long term industry.
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Korea (South)11568 Posts
wow wtf samsung ppl sound like bitches
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United States33025 Posts
well, rumors are air force is going to disband. that's just the word in the street, no sources I know of.
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wow damn. 
although to be honest, it seems like there's a lot of progamers that are only sticking around due to respect for seniority and past popularity. there's no way teams can keep picking up the promising new players without dropping some other players.
ACE disbanding makes sense too... it doesn't do much for the air force's image to have a consistently losing team (anyone think they'd be able to turn it around?), and i have a gut feeling a progaming team wouldn't fit the air force culture very well.
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United States20661 Posts
On March 26 2008 11:29 Waxangel wrote:
well, rumors are air force is going to disband. that's just the word in the street, no sources I know of.
I heard so too
but I'm in denial
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On March 07 2008 03:23 Kennigit wrote:
Predictions -> Zergman, July, Silent Control (wait did he retire already?)
oh ho ho ho
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Awwww, no more 2v2s from sigamari...
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On March 26 2008 11:47 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2008 11:29 Waxangel wrote:
well, rumors are air force is going to disband. that's just the word in the street, no sources I know of. I heard so too but I'm in denial
LIES
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ZergLee is really only known for the maelstroms Giyom did to him.
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Osaka27115 Posts
On March 26 2008 12:12 rushz0rz wrote:
ZergLee is really only known for the maelstroms Giyom did to him.
Welcome to not knowing anything about starcraft 101. -_-
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On March 26 2008 11:23 Waxangel wrote:
Many fans are cynical about the attitude of pro-teams towards e-sports in general, as they continuously show the attitude of those trying to exploit a short-lived fad, rather than trying to help create the foundations for a long term industry.
This thing about people exploiting fads is all over Korea.
I feel that the whole Korean wave is going to crash and burn because of this.
Not only is e-gaming being mismanaged but also the newer media. The junk that Korean companies call pop music and movies and all that junk..
They are riding on the success of the formers and are honestly ruining it.
I know Korean culture is strict.. that is why I know that it will not change the easily.
But there should be some people who should just say who gives a fuck about the Korean culture in Korea and fucking improve the industries.
There should be some companies in Korea similar in USA where they review the industry ratings.. take it over, improve it and sell it at a higher price.
It's fucking logic.. it's embarrassing what Korean industries are becoming.
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United States20661 Posts
On March 26 2008 12:15 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2008 12:12 rushz0rz wrote:
ZergLee is really only known for the maelstroms Giyom did to him. Welcome to not knowing anything about starcraft 101. -_-
So, rushz0rz, does the name 'sigamari' ring a bell?
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I spoke to FBH about this online last night and the night before. He confirmed both retirements, but didn't provide any details aside from the fact that he's got no plans to retire in the near future himself. I'm personally sad to hear the news - both players were nice guys and I'll miss their presence both at matches and Khan events. I hope Samsung can bounce back from this with a fresh line up.
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On March 26 2008 11:29 Waxangel wrote:
well, rumors are air force is going to disband. that's just the word in the street, no sources I know of.
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On March 26 2008 11:36 Polemarch wrote:
although to be honest, it seems like there's a lot of progamers that are only sticking around due to respect for seniority and past popularity. there's no way teams can keep picking up the promising new players without dropping some other players.
Except Sigamari was still rather successful. And given that the proleague was just about to roll out maps designed for 2v2, this loss, in my opinion, could be quite painful.
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That's part of the problem though. Do you realize how hard it is to change the culture of a society like Korean? Unfortunately there is no quick fix to this and it is a shame.
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Whoa... Siggy retired? That sucks... whatever happening to owning the 2v2 circuit.
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51297 Posts
Return of the KPGA (Korean Pro Gamers Association)?
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EPT
