On June 19 2015 13:49 IAmWithStupid wrote: There are two ways to deal with such sad news: denial and humor. I guess, I'll choose the second one. So, what is MC's favourite language? C++? Delphi? Maybe Java?
On June 19 2015 15:32 Buddy168 wrote: *MC retires* *Streams LoL not 24 hours later* I have never felt so betrayed.
Why? Would you feel better if he streamed Heroes of the Storm? I don't see why when SC2 player plays Heroes it's just fine but when it's LoL people start to loose their minds. Blizzard-centrism or anti-LoLism?
Because everyone treats Heroes of the Storm like a joke that it is. Who cares if someone decides to waste time on that? But when people play LoL you can actually feel bitter.
On June 19 2015 15:32 Buddy168 wrote: *MC retires* *Streams LoL not 24 hours later* I have never felt so betrayed.
Why? Would you feel better if he streamed Heroes of the Storm? I don't see why when SC2 player plays Heroes it's just fine but when it's LoL people start to loose their minds. Blizzard-centrism or anti-LoLism?
Because everyone treats Heroes of the Storm like a joke that it is. Who cares if someone decides to waste time on that? But when people play LoL you can actually feel bitter.
Would you feel bitter if he played Dota2 or Smite? What about Witcher3?
I've been always wondering how MC goes out, and this couldn't reflect him any better: spontaneous, quick and painless. Though I'm not so sure about the pain part... he was such a unique guy in this scene.
Farewell MC. I never considered you as the best player out there. But you were successful, you won GSL and you played for the wins. You played macro games if that had to be. You were entertaining in the game and in the interview after. You will leave a scar on my heart the same way MVP did. I hope Parting will do his best to replace you, I haven't found the new "MVP" yet
I will miss you, this is a huge loss
Enjoy whatever you will do next Maybe singing contest? :-)
Sad to see him go. Always enjoyed watching his games.
Off Topic: I never bothered to look at the figures before but it was convenient to do so right now. The most successful player in SC2 history (in terms of income) made just short of 100 000 USD a year. Most other progamers very likely make a lot less. The hours they have to put in to stay on top likely exceed those in most common jobs by far. Going to university and getting a "real job" still looks like the easier path to making a living, even for those with enough talent for a gaming career.
On June 19 2015 12:35 Shinespark wrote: I don't want to sound like an MC fanboy because I'm most certainly not, but I think he accomplished much more than Taeja, who has never won anything in Korea. He's just won a multitude of 5k weekend tournaments against foreigners for the most part.
Should be used to articles making these statements about Taeja (I do agree with you though).
looked at TaeJa's wins. He sucked at preparing, not at playing vs top tier players.
There are plenty of other threads where it broke down to taeja hating/taeja defending/taeja comparing ect. Let's keep this one to just appreciating MC's career without rehashing an argument that has been had way to many times and never comes to a conclusion because it is very subjective.
On June 19 2015 23:45 Desplice wrote: Sad to see him go. Always enjoyed watching his games.
Off Topic: I never bothered to look at the figures before but it was convenient to do so right now. The most successful player in SC2 history (in terms of income) made just short of 100 000 USD a year. Most other progamers very likely make a lot less. The hours they have to put in to stay on top likely exceed those in most common jobs by far. Going to university and getting a "real job" still looks like the easier path to making a living, even for those with enough talent for a gaming career.
Of course. I recall Kuro (Dota2) elaborated on this that i.e. Na'Vi salary while maybe respectable in Ukraine, was definitely not respectable in Germany and generally in the long term it would be more profitable to just study, get a degree and start cracking.
There are also some middle ground cases - i.e. Nerchio (currently sitting just under 130k$) is studying as well, currently on 2nd year of Computer Engineering. Similarly qxc - I believe - has a degree in Computer Science. I have no idea what Polt is studying but he is doing s.t. Then there's Stephano etc.
Also there are other questions. Are these players smart enough to pursue professional non-esport related career with good earning potential? I'd say that for some of them - no. Smart SC2 player doesn't necessarily mean smart engineer.
Other aspects - where are you living. Obviously some people are living in rich countries - i.e. Norway - but if you live in i.e. Ukraine the situation is different. On average people in Ukraine earn 20 times less than in Norway so the opportunities that esport is generating are also different. 100$ weekly is not really that big of a deal in the Norway, but on Ukraine it's over half of monthly average wage. To put it into perspective - White-Ra earned just under 50k$ in SC2. That's - by Ukraine's average - just over 25 years of working. Snute - on the other hand - earned just under 150k$ in SC2. That's - by Norway average - worth just under 4 years of working.
Then there are other advantages. For example if you make a big enough splash on the scene and get a contract with good team, you have opportunity to travel a lot and see how entertainment looks like and works from behind the scenes. This might or might not be helpful in the future. Also you can potentially transition into working position like ToD with the industry. Generally if you are not promising progamer by the end of high school, you can stop dreaming and start studying. And if you delay your studies for ~3 years it's not the end of the world, especially if you earn some money in the mean time. I read some time ago that it's popular in some countries to take a break from education between high school and studies anyway, so esport is decent proposition for such period.
There are probably other factors as well but even this should show that's a bit more complicated than simple comparison of numbers.
Goodbye MC. I remember the time, when he put a forcefield between the main and the natural. Other players did that too, but noone played it like MC. Or when he casted Homestorycup. Or his agressive games in the early GSL. Or his dt's against naniwas dancing army
And hell, he knows how to do a show. He plays like a top korean and makes a show like a WWC wrestler.
Its really sad to see him go. Unfortunately this is just how sc2 is going these days.
I would like to read a "best of MC" article or something. With his best games an most important moments.