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On March 03 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:
lol ls seems honest enough this game to me; he really was convinced breshke was scum right after breshke rolled scum
what makes you think he's scum, Damdred?
Usually ls would meta some town reads out, he's really familiar with Hts etc., bit is wishy washy and wants others to do some work. Gave me a bad feeling
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On March 03 2015 13:26 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 10:12 Tubesock wrote:
I like FF, HtS, and Rsoultin. It's wise to not town me just for being able to count.
The rest I just need to see more. I don't really scum anyone at the moment. The only one I'm somewhat questioning is Slam and only because in some game awhile ago Koshi said that town slam makes no sense, while scum slam is coherent and slam is pretty coherent this game. But I liked his evolution of my idea. (his seemingly reluctant acceptance of it anyway).
So your reasoning is that he sounds coherent and therefore he is scum because someone else said he's incoherent when he's town? If he's capable of being coherent, I can't see why he wouldn't be coherent when he's town. I'm also unsure why you aren't venturing any opinion or read of your own, but relying on some comment someone made on some other occasion?
This is what I meant to quote.
Alakaslam doesn't fit a normal mold
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Yay. It's Kita!!! Right as I was going to go to bed.
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On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues.
Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing.
Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat.
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On March 03 2015 13:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:
lol ls seems honest enough this game to me; he really was convinced breshke was scum right after breshke rolled scum
what makes you think he's scum, Damdred? Usually ls would meta some town reads out, he's really familiar with Hts etc., bit is wishy washy and wants others to do some work. Gave me a bad feeling
I've seen similar from him as town. But I get what you mean.
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On March 03 2015 13:41 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues. Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing. Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat.
Can you comment on who you wanted to shoot before you got in a shit fight with geript?
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On March 03 2015 13:41 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues. Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing. Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat.
Ok, so how do you know that it gives Town a chance to come back? How do you know that it doesn't just give mafia uber roles. From helping GreyMist with his upcoming game I have an idea of what it might be, but it's a semi-guess related to pregame. But I can assure you that it's either really, really bad if it's one of them or it's completely fucking random or it's really really bad.
Regarding the device you're a fucking idiot if you want to keep talking about this shit. Because you know where this big pile of unknown is going to end us up at? Because I do. It ends up at not talking about HtS and me not being able to read her town games because I'm either talking to a dumbass or mafia. It ends up not talking about how Koshi is essentially repeating 2 of his previous mafia games. It ends us up not talking about how Rayn isn't gaming the system or coming up with some weird plan, or him reading Slam the same way as last game at almost an earlier point than he did that game AND WHERE SLAM WAS MAFIA, or with him not really talking about how Koshi's bully system (lynch any misshot on D2 regardless) is awful. It ends up with us not talking about LS who Damdred finds interesting.
So basically it ends up with us not talking about actually important subjects. So motherfucker. What do you think about those actually important subjects which you have totally ignored? You seem to have skimmed along but don't even remember who was talking about what. Why? Why aren't you interested in who you're going to shoot or who you want to shot instead of this bullshit? How can you possibly think that I can even be mafia here? Are you like a complete noob or just terrible?
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On March 03 2015 13:41 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues. Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing. Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat.
Theres really not much of a bandwagon to press it at this point honestly, i'm not sure even how many of us have messaged the host. I haven't as of yet.
And geript is right though you are making a really wordy post without commenting on a lot of the other scum hunting that's going on in the thread
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So I was just gonna say did you actually read his entry post (not the one about posting later, but the actual entry) only...wtf happened to all LS' posts? o.0
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This is extremely frustrating I am generally confused if scum did this to LS to frame him or if a town pr did it... i'd go with the first, or maybe to wifom us into thinking hes town when hes scum.
God...
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On March 03 2015 13:51 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:41 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues. Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing. Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat. Ok, so how do you know that it gives Town a chance to come back? How do you know that it doesn't just give mafia uber roles. From helping GreyMist with his upcoming game I have an idea of what it might be, but it's a semi-guess related to pregame. But I can assure you that it's either really, really bad if it's one of them or it's completely fucking random or it's really really bad. Regarding the device you're a fucking idiot if you want to keep talking about this shit. Because you know where this big pile of unknown is going to end us up at? Because I do. It ends up at not talking about HtS and me not being able to read her town games because I'm either talking to a dumbass or mafia. It ends up not talking about how Koshi is essentially repeating 2 of his previous mafia games. It ends us up not talking about how Rayn isn't gaming the system or coming up with some weird plan, or him reading Slam the same way as last game at almost an earlier point than he did that game AND WHERE SLAM WAS MAFIA, or with him not really talking about how Koshi's bully system (lynch any misshot on D2 regardless) is awful. It ends up with us not talking about LS who Damdred finds interesting. So basically it ends up with us not talking about actually important subjects. So motherfucker. What do you think about those actually important subjects which you have totally ignored? You seem to have skimmed along but don't even remember who was talking about what. Why? Why aren't you interested in who you're going to shoot or who you want to shot instead of this bullshit? How can you possibly think that I can even be mafia here? Are you like a complete noob or just terrible?
Okay, I'm going to try and behave for now despite you acting like a prick. Don't test it though.
Alright, I'll explain it so a Neanderthal can get it.
Device is random.
Possibility 1: We are losing and mafia gets uber roles. No harm, we were lost anyway.
Possibility 2: We are losing and it helps Town. We gain something we wouldn't otherwise.
Possibility 3: We just "PRESS" now (which is what I'm trying to stop). YOU claim the device is "either random or really bad", and therefore us pressing the device is a bad decision according to your own fucking Neanderthal logic. If you're being consistent WHY AREN'T YOU ARGUING AGAINST PRESSING THE DEVICE THAT YOU CLAIM IS SO BAD?
What is more this decision matrix should be really obvious if you think about it for longer than 10 seconds, which is why just agreeing to guard will not waste time UNLESS you try and divert the issue by starting meaningless personal attacks and abusive behaviour.
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On March 03 2015 13:53 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:41 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues. Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing. Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat. Theres really not much of a bandwagon to press it at this point honestly, i'm not sure even how many of us have messaged the host. I haven't as of yet. And geript is right though you are making a really wordy post without commenting on a lot of the other scum hunting that's going on in the thread
Damdred, I already said I would be posting in depth on those issues as well. This is not mutually exclusive but what I'm really trying to drill into people's heads is that this device does matter, and I've posted below in a response to Geript as to why it does.
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....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system
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On March 03 2015 13:58 Damdred wrote:
This is extremely frustrating I am generally confused if scum did this to LS to frame him or if a town pr did it... i'd go with the first, or maybe to wifom us into thinking hes town when hes scum.
God...
I don't really get your read, but I'll take a look at his meta after my league game.
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Also, before I go into real depth, I thought AlaskaSlam's post was constructive and helpful and I wouldn't mind him taking the shot. My preference for person to shoot is Geript. And please WAIT. I will give you a post with actual reasoning on all of this. I'm just giving you a clear opinion now to avoid the criticism that I'm somehow shirking discussion.
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On March 03 2015 14:00 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:58 Damdred wrote:
This is extremely frustrating I am generally confused if scum did this to LS to frame him or if a town pr did it... i'd go with the first, or maybe to wifom us into thinking hes town when hes scum.
God... I don't really get your read, but I'll take a look at his meta after my league game.
his posts are le gone geript they were the nuked
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On March 03 2015 13:59 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:53 Damdred wrote:On March 03 2015 13:41 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:35 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:31 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:26 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 13:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Hi guys,
I am sorry I'm late, but the game starts at 4:30 am in my time-zone. I'm not inclined to be an early riser and in any case for professional reasons that isn't an option. My work requires me to be rested during the day.
So first off, before I post anything more substantive, I have a comment about the device.
I see a very rapid bandwagon towards pressing it, which I don't really understand very well. The device is unknown and we have no idea what it's impact on the game will be, or whom it will favour. Most of the 'reasoning' I've seen for pressing it can be summarized as 'YOLO' or 'don't be pansy' and similar emotive appeals rather than any concrete reason. One sensible voice pointed out we should guard it until we are behind or doing badly and then press, but he didn't seem to be too invested in the whole issue and didn't pursue it much. He's dead right though; the device randomizes the game, and because town is majority, that itself makes it town favoured. The way we extract an advantage from the device is to gain the ability to randomize the game when it's going badly, not by just saying 'YOLO' and pressing a button, and I'm mildly suspicious of those who started this "PRESS" bandwagon. I really can't overstate the importance of this, and I really want a discussion of this issue and/or responses to it. I'm not attempting to deflect discussion away from the shot, and I'll comment on that in a bit, but this is an important issue and that's why I've dedicated a separate post to it. There is literally no reason not to vote GUARD on the device and I want those who are currently voting PRESS to explain their logic if any. Holy shitpants of saying nothing. This guys is another good kill. Do you actually care to respond? I said a lot of valuable stuff and your attempt to dis it just portrays you as scum. Respond if you have any meaningful response? Also, if you could bother to read, I said I am separately commenting on the shot. Sure, you've talked about nothing of any sort of consequence in like the least meaningful way possible. Like there's nothing of any worth talking about there. We have ~18 hours until someone is going to get shot and you're worried about talking about something that nobody knows what the fuck it does. I will be happy to shoot you if this continues. Ok, so here's the thing, I've explained why it's of consequence. It gives Town (which I'm now doubting you are) a chance to come back if we're behind. That absolutely is of consequence. If you think not, please tell me why. Secondly, none of this is mutually exclusive with scum-hunting, which I said I would be posting on. Your attempt to get the device pressed and to avoid discussion of the topic is very scummy, because the device is unknown and hence chaotic, thereby favouring the scum. As Town we want the chaos only if/when we are losing. Of course you will be happy to shoot me. I am Town, I'm being constructive, and judging by this reaction as well your really suspicious plans and reasoning about how to decide a shot makes me very suspicious of you. Also, I am just as capable of shooting you, so that's an unproductive threat. Theres really not much of a bandwagon to press it at this point honestly, i'm not sure even how many of us have messaged the host. I haven't as of yet. And geript is right though you are making a really wordy post without commenting on a lot of the other scum hunting that's going on in the thread Damdred, I already said I would be posting in depth on those issues as well. This is not mutually exclusive but what I'm really trying to drill into people's heads is that this device does matter, and I've posted below in a response to Geript as to why it does.
Hmmm why don't I talk about a device that the host would totally lie about and likely works with a new twist at least? Yes, why don't I continue to talk about complete fucking conjecture instead of actually posting about who to shoot. Why? Why Why?
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lol epiphany if you don't understand why talking about the damn device is pointless at this stage, then I have to wonder how much pot you've been smoking to destroy that many brain cells, as any alignment really
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